Sorry OP, but statistics don't work that way.... the few of you (on this forum) who don't use xfire won't change the nmubers enough to even make a report on it.

It would be like polling 3 dentists and then telling the world that 3/3 dentists prefer brand x.

Originally posted by caetftl

Xfire trends seem to be pretty accurate in telling how well an mmorpg is doing.

 

Is GW2 the special snowflake where xfire is wildly inaccurate? 

The same people who were celebrating in the "gw2 has 4 times more players than wow on xfire" thread are now denouncing it.

The xfire numbers and graphs force 1 of 2 comments on here all of the time:

1) non-GW2 players - i am SO glad i didn't buy GW2 now

2) GW2 players - at least there is no sub so i can come back and play it someday

hopefully everybody realizes these 2 positions are not all inclusive... just seen all of the time

lol.. xfire rocks for bringing peepz to the table

SZ

Originally posted by Drakynn

Originally posted by RefMinor

Originally posted by smh_alot
OP uses a totally wrong approach for his questioning the credibility of Xfire.

 

What I found more interesting though, reading all these threads, is the irony of how those GW2 fans who'd been gleefully quoting the Xfire stats regarding SWTOR all the time, either have gone completely silent and mute on the topic of Xfire when it comes to GW2 now, or have been forced in the role of defender, using the exact same arguments that SWTOR fans used and they were all too happy to dismiss all the time a few months back.

 

Now that's irony at its best :-D

:-)

Proof?

Not saying your wrong but all I rmeember form the past year is xfire onyl being brought up by Sandbox agenda posters and TSW fans and like any tiem before xfire numbers are onyl brought uip if they seem to gel with the poster's opinion and agenda.

Originally posted by Drakynn

Originally posted by RefMinor

Originally posted by smh_alot
OP uses a totally wrong approach for his questioning the credibility of Xfire.

 

What I found more interesting though, reading all these threads, is the irony of how those GW2 fans who'd been gleefully quoting the Xfire stats regarding SWTOR all the time, either have gone completely silent and mute on the topic of Xfire when it comes to GW2 now, or have been forced in the role of defender, using the exact same arguments that SWTOR fans used and they were all too happy to dismiss all the time a few months back.

 

Now that's irony at its best :-D

:-)

Proof?

Not saying your wrong but all I rmeember form the past year is xfire onyl being brought up by Sandbox agenda posters and TSW fans and like any tiem before xfire numbers are onyl brought uip if they seem to gel with the poster's opinion and agenda.

What proof do you require, a photo of me smiling?

Originally posted by smh_alot

Originally posted by Drakynn

Originally posted by RefMinor

Originally posted by smh_alot
OP uses a totally wrong approach for his questioning the credibility of Xfire.

 

What I found more interesting though, reading all these threads, is the irony of how those GW2 fans who'd been gleefully quoting the Xfire stats regarding SWTOR all the time, either have gone completely silent and mute on the topic of Xfire when it comes to GW2 now, or have been forced in the role of defender, using the exact same arguments that SWTOR fans used and they were all too happy to dismiss all the time a few months back.

 

Now that's irony at its best :-D

:-)

Proof?

Not saying your wrong but all I rmeember form the past year is xfire onyl being brought up by Sandbox agenda posters and TSW fans and like any tiem before xfire numbers are onyl brought uip if they seem to gel with the poster's opinion and agenda.

 

I'm not gonna call up names (even if I could remember the exact names which I don't, just a thought I often had with some posts and posters, 'hmm, I wonder where you ppl will be when GW2 gets released and Xfire stats aren't as rosy, what'll you do') but I'll just use logic and reason instead, which should suffice too: like you said, xfire number were brought up to support a poster's opinion and agenda, so when Xfire stats were used to hammer on SWTOR, that was done by a number of hardcore SWG vets, WoW fans, themepark haters and GW2 fans alike. Generally by those who disliked SWTOR for various reasons, a number of hardcore GW2 fans included.

 

As for how useful Xfire really is for trend analysis and numbers deduction, devoid of any biased agendas, well, that's a whole different discussion, and the OP has chosen a wrong angle for that debate.

Ok then I completely agree with you then .Live by the sword and die by the sword and all.

The big problem with xfire is the sample is not representative of the population.

Still, the trends do usually correlate.

Originally posted by niceguy3978

Originally posted by Dragonantis

These Xfire threads are a pain, so lets nip this in the butt, lets have a poll about it, how many of us in the MMORPG community use Xfire.

 

The number of people who use x-fire is irrelevant, and not the problem with x-fire.  You can get incredibly accurate data from a very small sample size.  Most political polls for example only survey between 500 and 1500 people to represent the 100 million plus voters (in American politics).  Guild wars 2 itself has between 9k and 12k on a given day.  Many researchers would murder wives/husbands in their sleep for a samble that big.  The problem with xfire is not the size of the sample, but the method of collecting the sample.  Since x-fire users are self selected, there's no generalizability.  So you can't compare game to game in any meaningful way regarding size of population.  But you can detect trends within the sample itself and the game itself.  X-fire is very good at detecting week to week trends within a game as long as the number of users for that game stays obove 300 or so.  Lower than that and you start to see games with erratic points on their lines.

This ^^