http://venturebeat.com/2012/09/27/world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria-performance-disappointing/

Take it for what its worth.

Link:

It looks like it’s going to take more than kung fu fighting pandas to save Azeroth.

Sales of the World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria expansion have been disappointing, according to analysts at investment bank Lazard Capital Markets. The fourth expansion for Blizzard Entertainment’s massively popular online game has sold between 600,000 and 700,000 copies at retail since its launch earlier this week, Lazard estimates.

Historically, each new World of Warcraft expansion has outsold its predecessors, Lazard said, but sales of Pandaria are down 60 percent from the previous expansion pack, Cataclysm, which has sold 3.3 million units since its launch in December 2010. While these figures don’t take digital market performance into account, Lazard analysts believe Pandaria’s digital sales won’t make up for its poor retail performance.

A drop in subscription numbers is a possible explanation for Pandaria’s struggles. Back in August, publisher Activision Blizzard revealed World of Warcraft lost over one million subscriptions in the last fiscal quarter.

About 25 percent of Activision Blizzard’s revenue comes from World of Warcraft, along with 50 percent of its operating income, which has analysts concerned about the game’s continued longevity.

The fourth expansion for Blizzard Entertainment’s massively popular online game has sold between 600,000 and 700,000 copies at retail since its launch earlier this week, Lazard estimates.
Read more at http://venturebeat.com/2012/09/27/world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria-performance-disappointing/#ZivfOz2qSZMIYOuz.99

"at retail" thats not counting digital sales

I never post on the forums this might be my 3rd post in 6 years.

I had to say that your link was the most stupidest shit i have ever read.  600k-700k sales in 2 DAYS of MOP versus 3.3 million copies since Dec 2010 for Cataclysm = MOP not doing well? WTF hahaha stupid link.

Not you I repeat I am not calling you stupid or cussing at you. Just had to clear that up.

Last I checked xfire, they still havent recovered from the loss of players when GW2 released even after MoP.

I dont think that article can really accuratly represent digital sales from the WoW main site so I'm sure its much higher than that. On active subscribers alone, even if they only sold MoP to half their subscribers it should still outsell GW2

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Originally posted by Zeppelin4
http://venturebeat.com/2012/09/27/world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria-performance-disappointing/

 

Take it for what its worth.

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That report is total sensationalism. It's counting retail sales since release. So it's not counting Digital sales or pre-purchases. Lets get all the numbers when we play with them huh?

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

 

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Originally posted by Zeppelin4
http://venturebeat.com/2012/09/27/world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria-performance-disappointing/

 

 

Take it for what its worth.

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That report is total sensationalism. It's counting retail sales since release. So it's not counting Digital sales or pre-purchases. Lets get all the numbers when we play with them huh?

What fun is that. :P

Originally posted by Deathenger

Last I checked xfire, they still havent recovered from the loss of players when GW2 released even after MoP.

 

I dont think that article can really accuratly represent digital sales from the WoW main site so I'm sure its much higher than that. On active subscribers alone, even if they only sold MoP to half their subscribers it should still outsell GW2

WOW is back up to the #2 spot on Xfire, and hours played is almost double of GW2

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Deathenger

Last I checked xfire, they still havent recovered from the loss of players when GW2 released even after MoP.

 

I dont think that article can really accuratly represent digital sales from the WoW main site so I'm sure its much higher than that. On active subscribers alone, even if they only sold MoP to half their subscribers it should still outsell GW2

WOW is back up to the #2 spot on Xfire, and hours played is almost double of GW2

Well since Wow has over 4x the subs you would think it would be over 4x the hours played right? Maybe its not going so well for Wow these days based on those numbers. Time will tell since the expansion just launched. Lets see those hours played in a month. 

Well, it's got Pandas. And cheap jokes never saved any movie sequeals.

As others have pointed out, it's only counting retail sales.  The funny thing is, if you buy the retail box, you don't actually have to install it since your client is already patched up anyway.  You just buy the box for the CD key.  Much easier to just upgrade your account online and save yourself the trip.

Also, you don't need the expansion to play a Panda, which I thought was odd.  You just need it for the Monk class, and the level 86-90 content.

Well I'm not counted, I just buy mine from blizzard.

I find it easier, you buy it digitally from blizzard then at midnight you just start playing because it is already downloaded onto your computer.

Originally posted by chomite

Well, it's got Pandas. And cheap jokes never saved any movie sequeals.

 

 

It saved Austin Powers; The Spy Who Shagged me. Far more jokes in that one than the first movie.

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Deathenger

Last I checked xfire, they still havent recovered from the loss of players when GW2 released even after MoP.

 

I dont think that article can really accuratly represent digital sales from the WoW main site so I'm sure its much higher than that. On active subscribers alone, even if they only sold MoP to half their subscribers it should still outsell GW2

WOW is back up to the #2 spot on Xfire, and hours played is almost double of GW2

first days of expansion is always like that

lets see after a month

Originally posted by Johnie-Marz

Originally posted by chomite

Well, it's got Pandas. And cheap jokes never saved any movie sequeals.

 

 

It saved Austin Powers; The Spy Who Shagged me. Far more jokes in that one than the first movie.

At least Pandas weren't enough for me to resub my account. 

Can't believe MMO players have degraded themselves so bad to the point that Pandas and new class were enough to crawl back to WoW. Then again, there weren't that many good MMOs out there lately - hell, even I am starting to see MoP more and more attractive after hitting 80 on GW2.

Back to DayZ, and more single player game for me.

Originally posted by Zeppelin4

http://venturebeat.com/2012/09/27/world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria-performance-disappointing/

 

Take it for what its worth.

Link:

It looks like it’s going to take more than kung fu fighting pandas to save Azeroth.

Sales of the World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria expansion have been disappointing, according to analysts at investment bank Lazard Capital Markets. The fourth expansion for Blizzard Entertainment’s massively popular online game has sold between 600,000 and 700,000 copies at retail since its launch earlier this week, Lazard estimates.

Historically, each new World of Warcraft expansion has outsold its predecessors, Lazard said, but sales of Pandaria are down 60 percent from the previous expansion pack, Cataclysm, which has sold 3.3 million units since its launch in December 2010. While these figures don’t take digital market performance into account, Lazard analysts believe Pandaria’s digital sales won’t make up for its poor retail performance.

A drop in subscription numbers is a possible explanation for Pandaria’s struggles. Back in August, publisher Activision Blizzard revealed World of Warcraft lost over one million subscriptions in the last fiscal quarter.

About 25 percent of Activision Blizzard’s revenue comes from World of Warcraft, along with 50 percent of its operating income, which has analysts concerned about the game’s continued longevity.

 

What I don't get if those figures are true.  How does WoW have 9 million active subscibers if only 3.3 million copies of Cataclysm were sold?

/edit oh I see- retail vs. digital.  You really need to include digital if you're making a point, imo.

This weekend is when we'll see peek xfire numbers, qeues will be keeping a good number away from MOP at the moment as for retail -- digital has grown significantly since the last expansion I think digital numbers will be higher than expected, the digital version is also the same price as the retial this time round so digital is just esasier so I assume most have gone that route.

Originally posted by Thanes

What I don't get if those figures are true.  How does WoW have 9 million active subscibers if only 3.3 million copies of Cataclysm were sold?

those figures are a poor estimate without including digital sales

regarding Cata  http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/press/pressreleases.html?page=2

WOW sold 3.3m in the first 24hrs and 4.7m in the first month  -- not including asian market

Originally posted by Thanes

Originally posted by Zeppelin4

http://venturebeat.com/2012/09/27/world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria-performance-disappointing/

 

Take it for what its worth.

Link:

It looks like it’s going to take more than kung fu fighting pandas to save Azeroth.

Sales of the World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria expansion have been disappointing, according to analysts at investment bank Lazard Capital Markets. The fourth expansion for Blizzard Entertainment’s massively popular online game has sold between 600,000 and 700,000 copies at retail since its launch earlier this week, Lazard estimates.

Historically, each new World of Warcraft expansion has outsold its predecessors, Lazard said, but sales of Pandaria are down 60 percent from the previous expansion pack, Cataclysm, which has sold 3.3 million units since its launch in December 2010. While these figures don’t take digital market performance into account, Lazard analysts believe Pandaria’s digital sales won’t make up for its poor retail performance.

A drop in subscription numbers is a possible explanation for Pandaria’s struggles. Back in August, publisher Activision Blizzard revealed World of Warcraft lost over one million subscriptions in the last fiscal quarter.

About 25 percent of Activision Blizzard’s revenue comes from World of Warcraft, along with 50 percent of its operating income, which has analysts concerned about the game’s continued longevity.

 

What I don't get if those figures are true.  How does WoW have 9 million active subscibers if only 3.3 million copies of Cataclysm were sold?

/edit oh I see- retail vs. digital.  You really need to include digital if you're making a point, imo.

Venturebeat kinda lost credibility for me as they're quoting Cata numbers incorrectly, Cata sold 3.3million in the first 24 hours and went on to sell 4.7 million in the first month. 

so where are the other 5 million did they not buy it? the other 5million are in china where Cata wasn't avaliable at the time.