Hi

I will not remove any of my ad blockers

Originally posted by Kenze
I run adblock plus and  noscript on my browser. I have no idea how to even whitelist a site. I have mmorpg.com "allowed" through noscript already but i guess that isnt enough.

I think we are revising the top banner to have a link to show users how to white list a site on AdBlock.  A quick search yeided this: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/whitelist-makeuseof-adblock-plea-adblock-filter-developer/

I don't really trust any ad service; have had too many problems. 

Sorry. 

Originally posted by Admin

Originally posted by saylorxi
I regulary use this site for news, though I don't post much as you can see. I cannot stand ads and myself have an adblocker in place. What I actually wouldn't mind doing is throwing the site a few bucks in return for not having ads show up on my site. I am someone who has a disposable income that I don't mind supporting the sites I use but haven't really seen an option for something like this.Do you have a members plus option or something similar? I would much prefer this option over seeing my  window cluttered.

This is an option we are considering.  If we do this it will only be to disable ads - we won't give any special member benefits like other sites do with special access to beta keys, etc.  We really want to keep the site 100% free to all users.

I would greatly appreciate to have the option to just pay a fee to have an add free MMORPG.com experience.

I like you guys...really i do.  I, however, don't like ads but I do understand this is your main source of income. I will put you on my white list but I really would appreciate it if there was an option to make us both happy.

I wouldn't mind it one bit if the only benefit I received was knowing that you guys are making the money you need to run this place and I don't have to stare at the ads.

But for now I guess I'll swallow my pride ;)

Originally posted by Failings

I understand the reasons for your request but I respectfully decline.

I hate being subjected to publicity vigourously. On TV, when it's time for adds, I change the channel. In the street, when I see an add on a bus I look the other way. As much as I enjoy fooling around on these forums, I'm not going to change my habits.

Since I try to be a decent and integral fellow in life, I will stop logging onto the site and I will no longer post. (Not a huge loss, I'm mostly a troll anyways.)

Thanks for the many years of free service, this is the best MMORPG site around, imo, by a long shot.

I'd actually be willing to pay a small monthly sub to access an add free mmorpg.com, but until there is such an option, I guess it's adios and best of luck to all of you in your future adventures, online and off.

Wow way to be a drama queen...nobody said leave they simple just asked people to whitelist their site so they get ad revenue.

Anyhow I don't see why so many people are making a big fus over whitelisting the site. It's the best MMO site out there and I visit it almost everyday, if whitelisting helps them out then I'll gladly spend 2 minutes and do it.

Originally posted by Kenze
I run adblock plus and  noscript on my browser. I have no idea how to even whitelist a site. I have mmorpg.com "allowed" through noscript already but i guess that isnt enough.

Click the little down arrow near the ABP logo in your browser and hit 'Disable on mmorpg.com'. :)

As a regular user of these forums I don't block the ads, I understand they help pay the bill and I never want to be accused of being a freeloader, I pay for what I use.

Thanks for the great site, really the only one I bother with in the Internet.

Originally posted by MikeB

Hi guys,

In a couple of minutes here we'll be pushing live a banner at the very top of the site that will only show to those who have not whitelisted us in their ad-blocking browser add-ons.

As you may know, our continued existence depends entirely on advertising revenue. Unfortunately, we've found that a significant portion of visitors are using advertisement blocking add-ons that end up blocking ads here on the site. The new banner will be launched alongside an ad policies page that clearly outlines our strict policy towards the types of ads and ad content we allow on the site.

Why are we doing this?

While we do depend on advertisement revenue, we understand (and also hate) disruptive and annoying web advertisements. This is why we've always taken extra care to only allow ads relevant to you while also restricting ourselves from utilizing some of the more annoying types of web ads you may have had the displeasure of experiencing elsewhere. Maintaining that balance between our need for ad revenue and our visitors' desire for a positive user experience is extremely important to us.

With that in mind, the new banner and policy page are being launched to educate adblocking visitors of the efforts we make to maintain this balance and how blocking ads may negatively impact our ability to provide you all with the free service and content you enjoy from us on a daily basis. With this information in hand, we're also asking these visitors to consider adding us to their whitelists.

This thread has been created to allow you the opportunity to discuss the new banner and provide us with constructive feedback. Discussion of this subject outside of this thread will be locked and redirected here.

TL;DR: We're not going to stop you from blocking our ads, but we'd greatly appreciate it if you didn't! Please go over our ad policies and consider putting us on your whitelist. :)

Thanks for your understanding!

I don't block your ads. My computer remains safe and I don't have any issues viewing the site while the ads are there. I do agree that really flashy ads may annoy occasionally but on a whole I barely notice them. Keep on doing what you're doing, I enjoy coming here.

Originally posted by Kilrane

Originally posted by Admin

Originally posted by saylorxi
I regulary use this site for news, though I don't post much as you can see. I cannot stand ads and myself have an adblocker in place. What I actually wouldn't mind doing is throwing the site a few bucks in return for not having ads show up on my site. I am someone who has a disposable income that I don't mind supporting the sites I use but haven't really seen an option for something like this.Do you have a members plus option or something similar? I would much prefer this option over seeing my  window cluttered.

This is an option we are considering.  If we do this it will only be to disable ads - we won't give any special member benefits like other sites do with special access to beta keys, etc.  We really want to keep the site 100% free to all users.

I would greatly appreciate to have the option to just pay a fee to have an add free MMORPG.com experience.

 

I like you guys...really i do.  I, however, don't like ads but I do understand this is your main source of income. I will put you on my white list but I really would appreciate it if there was an option to make us both happy.

 

I wouldn't mind it one bit if the only benefit I received was knowing that you guys are making the money you need to run this place and I don't have to stare at the ads.

 

But for now I guess I'll swallow my pride ;)

Thanks Kilrane,

We are seriously looking at a donation option to disable ads.  I don't like it to be honest because I don't like the thought of taking money from users - I always figured giving the site to the community for free and getting our revenue from the advertisers was the better way.  

We are seeing a lot of people asking for this and so this is very likely going to happen.  Thank you so much for your support of MMORPG.com and your feedback.

Originally posted by MikeB

Originally posted by Kenze
I run adblock plus and  noscript on my browser. I have no idea how to even whitelist a site. I have mmorpg.com "allowed" through noscript already but i guess that isnt enough.

Click the little down arrow near the ABP logo in your browser and hit 'Disable on mmorpg.com'. :)

thanks. ok I clicked allow mmorpg.com for adblock.

So if the big red block at the top is gone then Im good with the site?  I dont have to allow through noscript or adblock all this other stuff like serving-sys.com, viglink.com, doubleclick.net, udmserve,net, quantserve.net, etc?

Originally posted by Admin

Originally posted by Worstluck
I realize you guys make money from ads, however, I would not be clicking on said ads regardless so I block them for safety and just to make the page readable.  Now will I permanently have a big red bar accross the top of the page?

It does not matter if you click the ads.  We sell ads based on impressions, not clicks/results.  So even if you don't click the ads you hurt our entire site by running a blocker.  Running adblock on a site that supports itself with advertisements is no different than downloading pirated movies, music or video games.  You are in a sense stealing our content that we work hard to create and pay to an entire team to create.

I was halted by this before I got any further, yup there's another 5 pages at this time but whoa!

Either this is a really bad attempt at PR by a junior, or/and I just got insulted and labelled a theif.

I can't speak for anybody else, but I come here for the forums and "User" provided content.

Although I appreciate that you provide this service, I would hope that you realise that your income "based on impressions" is most probably provided by the very people who don't visit this site to read much other than the forums.

We, the users, provide this content that Google likes so much, pulling visitors and "impressions" - whether we're "adblock"ing or not.

Well go ahead, if you want to make me feel bad about visiting THIS site, when I'm running AdBlock everywhere else... you can see the outcome I'm sure.

Originally posted by Kenze

Originally posted by MikeB

Originally posted by Kenze
I run adblock plus and  noscript on my browser. I have no idea how to even whitelist a site. I have mmorpg.com "allowed" through noscript already but i guess that isnt enough.

Click the little down arrow near the ABP logo in your browser and hit 'Disable on mmorpg.com'. :)

thanks. ok I clicked allow mmorpg.com for adblock.

So if the big red block at the top is gone then Im good with the site?  I dont have to allow through noscript or adblock all this other stuff like serving-sys.com, viglink.com, doubleclick.net, udmserve,net, quantserve.net, etc?

I don't know much about AdBlock or NoScript but I think that if you white list us it will override the specific domain blocks.  A lot of our ads (like the SMITE ones) are coming from DoubleClick.

I'll ask again. Who's responsible for any damages an ad or script on this site might cause?

If mmorpg.com can't guarantee that there won't be any issues caused by ads or scripts and can't be held responsible for them, then I don't see me whitelisting this site.

I always appreciate the way MMORPG.com runs their ads. I've never felt they've taken away from the site and I've actually clicked on a few because the offering appealed to me. :)

I'm trying really hard to be okay with whitelisting you guys, but the flashing and what not of the ads are really annoying.  Especially when you spend a decent amount of time reading page after page, several times a day.....your going to run into MANY flashing/blinking ads just based on the amount of times the pages are refreshed and another random ad pops up.   I dont tolerate it anywhere else....I dont think we should have to here. 

Static ads would be a different story...but allowing other companies to whore themselves out with annoyance is not okay in my book.   Thats why people came up with these blockers....they are annoying, and I dont see why we should have to deal with them if we are not the kind that click on ads to begin with.  No ad shown, especially obnoxiously shown is going to change my mind. 

I hate to be one of the people that dislike this and I dont mean any disrespect, but I dont feel its okay for people to shove their products "down my throat".....and I use that term to describe the annoyance (flashing/blinking etc.) of most of them.  Do what you must...as will I, I'll be keeping my blocker on until something can be worked out to moderate all ads before being posted. 

Originally posted by Admin

The Admin account is not anonymous.  I am Craig McGregor the President/CEO of the company and the co-owner and founder of the site.  

The trend in AdBlock is concerning for me, not just on our site here, but on the Internet as a whole.  It is a growing problem and I feel it will eventually lead to the end of the "free Internet" that we all know and love.  If sites cannot stay afloat from advertising sales they have few options left: a) start charging for access to content b) start doing really unethical tihngs like Advertorial content c) syndicate into large networks with pay access like Cable TV "packages".  Personally I like the advertising model both as a site operator and as a user of hundreds of free websites.

I'd like to comment on this.

Well first let me say I been a memeber here a very, very long time, I think I was a luker for over a year before I even created my account. Hell I remember when the games list was displayed on the front page down the right hand side of the screen and there was like seven on them. Im afraid to click the games list tab now because it takes like 5 minutes to load them all. ;)

I come here damn near every day, two to three times a day. Ive gotten so much out of this site from the Features to the Videos to the Columnists to the stupid, informative, funny, insulting posts from this community; you guys will always be on my "white list".

Happy to help.

And you know what else,

Thanks for the 8 (9) years Ive had here.

Now enough asskissing, about that post.

You make it sound that we the consumers are the problem, when really, and by your own admission, is the advertisers that have driven "us" to use ad blocking programs.

Its kind of like the argument that spam somehow kept the cost of whatever they were peddling down. No it just annoyed the f**k out of us, and increased their profits by exposing more people to it.

So if these companies are losing revenue its because they are annoying the f**k out of us the consumer and forcing us to block their products.

Now Ive never had a problem with the ads on this site, course I didnt know you pre-filtered them. So I guess I have to kiss your ass just a little bit more and say thanks again.

So thanks, again. :)

But its totally unfair to blame us for the problem and the direction the "free" internet maybe heading. We're not the problem and neither is the ad block software.

Originally posted by stringboi

I'm trying really hard to be okay with whitelisting you guys, but the flashing and what not of the ads are really annoying.  Especially when you spend a decent amount of time reading page after page, several times a day.....your going to run into MANY flashing/blinking ads just based on the amount of times the pages are refreshed and another random ad pops up.   I dont tolerate it anywhere else....I dont think we should have to here. 

Static ads would be a different story...but allowing other companies to whore themselves out with annoyance is not okay in my book.   Thats why people came up with these blockers....they are annoying, and I dont see why we should have to deal with them if we are not the kind that click on ads to begin with.  No ad shown, especially obnoxiously shown is going to change my mind. 

I hate to be one of the people that dislike this and I dont mean any disrespect, but I dont feel its okay for people to shove their products "down my throat".....and I use that term to describe the annoyance (flashing/blinking etc.) of most of them.  Do what you must...as will I, I'll be keeping my blocker on until something can be worked out to moderate all ads before being posted. 

Just so you know there are browser extensions for Chrome and Opera that I know of that can limit animations used on all types of web standards. (it messes up youtube and other video watching sites so you got to white list them) So you might want ot check in to them.

They're easy enough to search for.