People sure are clueless to how F2P works aren't they?

You either live as a second class citizen with few perks, unable to compete in top tier gameplay and often gated from content if you want to play for free or ...

... you pay on average MORE than $15 a month and for those wanting top level access and top level power curve you HAVE to pay a LOT more than $15 a month.

The model is designed to pull in more money on average than per month billing. It isn't a charity service. The company wants your money and will shape the entire game around forcing you to pay for things monthly billing does not require you to pay. You WILL pay more over a year, you WILL have constant distractions in game pointing you to the cash shop and if you believe otherwise you ARE a complete and total idiot.

F2P model in an sandbox game is the antithesis to virtual world immersion. Yet some dufus company will attempt it.

/CAPSrule

Originally posted by khameleon

Darkfall 1 was a huge disappointment after we waited so many, many years for it. NOw I know we have no great MMORPG right now, but we do have good games such as GW2 with AAA graphics, sound and PVE. 

 

If a game with the quality of GW2 has no monthly fee, I know for sure very, very few people will pay a monthly fee for this game. It will have better quality, but I am certain it will still be full of problems and it will not have modern graphics compared to games such as GW2 and the rest of the new games.

Yea we all want PVP, sandbox, etc. but over $200 a year for games full of bugs and that are not AAA quality is not going to work.

 

To restate my point, its the quality of the gameplay, UI, etc. that I am saying people will not pay for unless it is actually modernized and working. Why would we pay monthly  for a buggy half game stil in development when we can play GW2 free and so many other games.

Darkfall should be THE GAME! I want aventurine to finish the game and make sure the gameplay is top notch before release, if not they will probably just disappear if this game has the same fanbase and problems as the last.

I dare say all your posted points are invalid cause Aventurine has clearly stated they are making a NEW game, not fixing Darkfall into 2.0 version as we have thought for a while.

There's not much out about the game yet, let's wait and see before we doom this game. I for sure am looking forward to this game; it would definately be a fresh breath in a boring genre.

Originally posted by Tamanous

People sure are clueless to how F2P works aren't they?

 

You either live as a second class citizen with few perks, unable to compete in top tier gameplay and often gated from content if you want to play for free or ...

 

... you pay on average MORE than $15 a month and for those wanting top level access and top level power curve you HAVE to pay a LOT more than $15 a month.

 

The model is designed to pull in more money on average than per month billing. It isn't a charity service. The company wants your money and will shape the entire game around forcing you to pay for things monthly billing does not require you to pay. You WILL pay more over a year, you WILL have constant distractions in game pointing you to the cash shop and if you believe otherwise you ARE a complete and total idiot.

 

F2P model in an sandbox game is the antithesis to virtual world immersion. Yet some dufus company will attempt it.

 

/CAPSrule

^this guy knows whats up

Plus f2p in full loot doesn't work because of hacking and exploiting.  Not to mention the limitation of 1 character per account that Darkfall has always had would be blown away by everyone just making a dozen free accounts.

F2p sucks and it could never ever work in Darkfall.  For anyone that thinks DF should be f2p just go smash your head into the wall for a couple hours then try to come up with another idea, it should be a better one this time.

I think people wanting F2P they are just cheap and or poor. They cannot justify paying for something and just feel entitled. $15 bucks is not a lot of money. $180 a year is dirt cheap compared to some other hobbies people have that can cost tens of thousands of dollars a year. This is a bargain. $15 was also standard for over 10 years and the price at least has not inflated. People who have lives and have no time complain about the sub fee the most it seems. Even still that is not a lot of money and I bet people can get at least 15 hours of game time a month which is a dollar an hour.

Go to an arcade and see how long $15 bucks lasts you. Heck a 2 hour movie for 2 people is more than 15. Maybe if it was like 50 a month to play I could understand but 15 come on.

Originally posted by 123443211234

Originally posted by Tamanous

People sure are clueless to how F2P works aren't they?

 

You either live as a second class citizen with few perks, unable to compete in top tier gameplay and often gated from content if you want to play for free or ...

 

... you pay on average MORE than $15 a month and for those wanting top level access and top level power curve you HAVE to pay a LOT more than $15 a month.

 

The model is designed to pull in more money on average than per month billing. It isn't a charity service. The company wants your money and will shape the entire game around forcing you to pay for things monthly billing does not require you to pay. You WILL pay more over a year, you WILL have constant distractions in game pointing you to the cash shop and if you believe otherwise you ARE a complete and total idiot.

 

F2P model in an sandbox game is the antithesis to virtual world immersion. Yet some dufus company will attempt it.

 

/CAPSrule

^this guy knows whats up

 

Plus f2p in full loot doesn't work because of hacking and exploiting.  Not to mention the limitation of 1 character per account that Darkfall has always had would be blown away by everyone just making a dozen free accounts.

 

F2p sucks and it could never ever work in Darkfall.  For anyone that thinks DF should be f2p just go smash your head into the wall for a couple hours then try to come up with another idea, it should be a better one this time.

Pretty much this.