Of all the MMOs I have played, WoW always felt like the one that had the oldest population.

Originally posted by brackatcha
I meet your definition of an older gamer and WoW is definitely for me...more than any other game. Access to dungeons, always something to do (massive content) are huge positives..by the time I get settled in from work and put the kids to sleep..I might have 1 hour to play which means I dont want to spend 15 minutes screwing around in a pvp queue or dungeon queue; the LFG tool (play a healer) is basically instantaneous. Do I like the skill tree changes? Not really..is wow still the game that fits into this older gamers lifestyle the best...absolutely.

Agree completely. Not sure if op was really intended as "honest" post.

50 here and enjoying as ever MOP. Truth is however, my new no.1. is for about half year or so SWTOR. Wow is still however very close 2nd. As for 3rd have already hard times if put there new arrival GW2, which is a blast, or keep on that place Rift.

I think mature players looks for more complexity, polishness, many different candyies .... younger are usually happy with anything that is free or is very fast paced, .... Not sure however is this would fit all young, but have alot of friends with kids >12 or around15-16 ....

Also, Imo of course, any game that is solo friendly (solo does not mean associal or alike), is for older players. Usually we all have jobs, kids, ... other things to do in life then constantly lfg-ing for company even for normal pve.

Originally posted by moguy2
Wow , in the lower levels , is geared for the 9-14 ages. In the higher levels 15-22.. That is my take on that.

I totally agree, but I would drop the ages by 2 or 3 years. With it's cutsie, furry, squeeking little creatures it's a total kiddie game now.

It's a game that makes you feel like an idiot for playing it. I played it since launch, but it's time to move on.

Originally posted by Azaqin

The history isn't long enough to be certain yet, but trends seem to show that MOGs eventually kill themselves. They bury themselves under update after update, patch after patch, expansion after expansion, until the game has grown so cumbersome with new races and classes and factions and builds and skills that the balance simply gives up and dies in an exhausted heap.

Not enough 8-year-mark data point games to compare.

But apply Occam--isn't the simplest explanation that decade-old games just look and feel...old?

You can juggle the complex answers all you want, but in the end there aren't many people knowledgeable enough about player demographic data to tell you why, exactly, a game 'died'.  And the ones that have actual data are all working under NDA's. 

Players ofren still suffer from the delusion that games can be/are 'killed' by external forces...instead of what (historically) seems to happen to big titles, the long slow fade into still-operating (barely) obscurity.

Our efforts to identify whodunit are usually futile; but you can be certain it's never a single cause.

Guy at my work was part of the internal testing and said you fight a big monkey that tells you he is going to "hit you in your moo moo" the entire fight. Is this true??

I guess I'm to old to play WoW. 

Played 5 years when it released, MoP actually made it fun again.  My mage feels a lot more like the mage I played in vanilla, the pet battles are actually fun and suprisingly challenging, and I think this is the best talent system yet; even better then WoW talent system that was pretty much broken for both my mage and hunter. 

Totally disagree withe the OP.   Also really don't dig him thinking he knows what an older gamer should or shouldn't be playing.  You be you and let everyone else be them.  The world works much better that way. 

Originally posted by Bilko101

Originally posted by moguy2
Wow , in the lower levels , is geared for the 9-14 ages. In the higher levels 15-22.. That is my take on that.

I totally agree, but I would drop the ages by 2 or 3 years. With it's cutsie, furry, squeeking little creatures it's a total kiddie game now.

It's a game that makes you feel like an idiot for playing it. I played it since launch, but it's time to move on.

I know for a fact, that the age requirement for WoW levels is : Level-(BMI+Age) which luckily gives me another 23 years to play. Unless I get really fat real quick, of course. Then I'll have to play STO.

Originally posted by Bilko101

Originally posted by moguy2
Wow , in the lower levels , is geared for the 9-14 ages. In the higher levels 15-22.. That is my take on that.

I totally agree, but I would drop the ages by 2 or 3 years. With it's cutsie, furry, squeeking little creatures it's a total kiddie game now.

It's a game that makes you feel like an idiot for playing it. I played it since launch, but it's time to move on.

WoW makes you feel like an idiot playing it?  I would personally be to embarassed to admit that a game I think is made for 7+ year olds makes me feel that way. 

Originally posted by MeGaTronPower

I was talking to some of the older gamers who have played for 7 years in wow have not purchased mop on ventrilo. They told me its not the same, skill tree is not the same etc etc or its not vanilla wow. If your over 35 years old its time to move on from wow, blizzard made the changes especially skill tree so you can customize to deal with raid bosses or pvp on the fly. You customize the new skill tree on the fly on different encounters. Wow is changing to fit the needs of 20 year olds and college kids. In fact most of my friend who purchased are over 20 years old and are in college. Wow changed for the younger demographic market and no for old wow players, or old mmo players. You guys needs to accept this and move on.

 

Blizzard's goal is not here to retain old 2004 wow players, mop was designed to get those 20 year olds and college kids demographics with mop hence why the changes. They are sheding off old 2004 wow players and get those new generations of 20 year olds market, and it makes sence. Blizzard is smart.

well thank you..... MeGaTronPower......for saving me the money and not buying MoP

Originally posted by Hrica

Originally posted by MeGaTronPower

I was talking to some of the older gamers who have played for 7 years in wow have not purchased mop on ventrilo. They told me its not the same, skill tree is not the same etc etc or its not vanilla wow. If your over 35 years old its time to move on from wow, blizzard made the changes especially skill tree so you can customize to deal with raid bosses or pvp on the fly. You customize the new skill tree on the fly on different encounters. Wow is changing to fit the needs of 20 year olds and college kids. In fact most of my friend who purchased are over 20 years old and are in college. Wow changed for the younger demographic market and no for old wow players, or old mmo players. You guys needs to accept this and move on.

 

Blizzard's goal is not here to retain old 2004 wow players, mop was designed to get those 20 year olds and college kids demographics with mop hence why the changes. They are sheding off old 2004 wow players and get those new generations of 20 year olds market, and it makes sence. Blizzard is smart.

well thank you..... MeGaTronPower......for saving me the money and not buying MoP

 

 The irony.

Yay! I'm not over 35 so I don't have to move on yet!

Although, I have been playing since 2004 and hit 30 this year, too bad I'm playing a game for kids. I should go play a game for adults like Canasta. I'm pretty sure the average age of canasta players is 64.