Originally posted by Bjelar

Originally posted by Randayn

Originally posted by Bjelar

I agree but there is something weird and good also,Grenadier Engineers ,it is actually skill based class (only one)

You have extensivly tested all classes with all weapons thouroghly in PvE, dungeons and PvP already? Wow. I thought I played a lot.

when will fanbois realize that it's less about what you can do with your toon then what's needed to succeed.....this game is EASY...no real difficulty...it's also chaotic because there are no real roles for each person....

Like the OP said, DCUO combat is much more skill based and you HAVE to put everything in your arsenal to use to be successful....that's the difference..

Did you just call me a fanboy? Please answer.

no, I called you a fanboi....no difference cept for the "i" replaces the "y"....this forum is milked to the bone with fanbois....claiming this game is difficult and requires skill....it's just plain false...my 7 year old plays this game all the time and has 0 difficulty killing things....I try to play, but realize I won't be challenged nor progress as much as most MMO's would offer.

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Bjelar

Originally posted by ForumPvP

Originally posted by Bjelar

I agree but there is something weird and good also,Grenadier Engineers ,it is actually skill based class (only one)

You have extensivly tested all classes with all weapons thouroghly in PvE, dungeons and PvP already? Wow. I thought I played a lot.

a) roll character

b) go to heart mists

c) test your character

not that hard really.

 

Not hard, but quite time consuming. I started as an elementalist, and I've got five alignments and four weapons.... Warriors have 13 weapons I think.... To test each extensivly (it's not always crap because you don't master it within 5 min) would take aproximately forever for an old man like me. I agree youths should be able to do it faster, but everything I see tells me youths are overhyped.

 

how does testing a build on dummies in the mist in anyway show how well it would play out in a dungeon or PVE in general or wvw for that matter

what is this dungeon crap ,if Anet is planning some kind of eSport dungeon  PvE ,fine.

Anet hear me again,do not plan whatever you were planning anymore.

If you cant understand what manual targeting is,then you just cant,theres also many more other things taking place when moving and turning camera with mouse and you also need that camera and mouse for targeting enemies and grenades also takes time to hit their target ,its not instant and they hit where i clicked,also i need think how fast is someone moving and where, so i need to target somewhere where i suppose my enemy is when those grenades lands.

I didnt find 180 degree camera turn command anywhere, which could help alot in PvP when i dont need to turn camera manually when someone is chasing me,also i didnt find option how i could see enemies stamina so i could time my special attacks etc perfectly,i bet its there in the future.

and im pretty sure when i was testing that there was bit more things on Mists than just target dummies.

Originally posted by Nightgroper

Now I get that this is the review section, and everyone has an opinion but what can be said that has not been said already? Good or bad, there are several other wall of text reviews out there already posted. Everything you have stated here, has been said already, did you need to make an entire new thread for it? You couldn't just post in another's thread that you agreed with, or even offered what you would have added or taken out of their review? 

 

Not everything on the internet is for you. Move on.

If his post was irrelivant, it would have sunk like a stone with zero response.

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Originally posted by grimal

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Originally posted by Nightgroper Now I get that this is the review section, and everyone has an opinion but what can be said that has not been said already? Good or bad, there are several other wall of text reviews out there already posted. Everything you have stated here, has been said already, did you need to make an entire new thread for it? You couldn't just post in another's thread that you agreed with, or even offered what you would have added or taken out of their review?   

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Funny, I don't see you complaining about the numerous near identical positive reviews about the game. 

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I find blatant double standard in and of itself worth speaking out against. In as much as someone says to OP you shouldn't keep posing negative opinions, and you should stick to the threads already established, But Threads die. If someone does that they get the "necro" flame. Also not all threads mirror the OPs feelings exactly. And guess what? It can also be said of the opposite. You shouldn't post positive things either. That way, there would be no new threads on this site until some new news broke. Nothing good or bad, Because you say to the OP "Move On!" The OP can say it right back. "Move on" You didn't have to click on teh title, you saw it from the forum board. You didn't need to come in here. You knew the subject wouldn't apply to you. But no, No negative opinion can be left un white knighted.

Originally posted by Randayn

Originally posted by Bjelar

Originally posted by Randayn

Originally posted by Bjelar

I agree but there is something weird and good also,Grenadier Engineers ,it is actually skill based class (only one)

You have extensivly tested all classes with all weapons thouroghly in PvE, dungeons and PvP already? Wow. I thought I played a lot.

when will fanbois realize that it's less about what you can do with your toon then what's needed to succeed.....this game is EASY...no real difficulty...it's also chaotic because there are no real roles for each person....

Like the OP said, DCUO combat is much more skill based and you HAVE to put everything in your arsenal to use to be successful....that's the difference..

Did you just call me a fanboy? Please answer.

no, I called you a fanboi....no difference cept for the "i" replaces the "y"....this forum is milked to the bone with fanbois....claiming this game is difficult and requires skill....it's just plain false...my 7 year old plays this game all the time and has 0 difficulty killing things....I try to play, but realize I won't be challenged nor progress as much as most MMO's would offer.

I've seen the game called easy by fans and too hard by a lot of haters. People are all over the place on this subject. I think the game is easy and I still think it's fun.

(6+6+4+3+7+9)/6 = 5.83

A bit harsh to use "trainwreck" when you score it 5.8/10. [mod edit]

Originally posted by Randayn

Originally posted by Bjelar

Originally posted by Randayn

Originally posted by Bjelar

I agree but there is something weird and good also,Grenadier Engineers ,it is actually skill based class (only one)

You have extensivly tested all classes with all weapons thouroghly in PvE, dungeons and PvP already? Wow. I thought I played a lot.

when will fanbois realize that it's less about what you can do with your toon then what's needed to succeed.....this game is EASY...no real difficulty...it's also chaotic because there are no real roles for each person....

Like the OP said, DCUO combat is much more skill based and you HAVE to put everything in your arsenal to use to be successful....that's the difference..

Did you just call me a fanboy? Please answer.

no, I called you a fanboi....no difference cept for the "i" replaces the "y"....this forum is milked to the bone with fanbois....claiming this game is difficult and requires skill....it's just plain false...my 7 year old plays this game all the time and has 0 difficulty killing things....I try to play, but realize I won't be challenged nor progress as much as most MMO's would offer.

Sorry, I bend over and apologize. I should not have expected that you read my previous post where I said, I quote "

oh.....COME ON!

I like GW2 as well, but you can't possibly argue it is difficult. It's a walk in the themepark, I am an old man and pretty much never die as en elementalist. My guardian alt a monkey on booze could play. Don't say GW2 is challenging. That's missing the point. GW2 is easy entertainment for (almost) free. Be happy. I am. I like GW2."

Don't call people names unless they have big noses, please.

Originally posted by Randayn this forum is milked to the bone with fanbois....claiming this game is difficult and requires skill....it's just plain false...my 7 year old plays this game all the time and has 0 difficulty killing things....I try to play, but realize I won't be challenged nor progress as much as most MMO's would offer.

yes the "skill" claim gets made - too often

but it is a selling point for GW2 that gear will not carry you through

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by Aerowyn

gone over why I have so many posts several times you are welcome to search for it:) I'm asking more out of curiosity as when I dislike a game like torchligh 2 for example I have no desire to bitch and moan about it..I just toss it aside and move to something I enjoy... guess I'm just strange I dunno

No need, I was just trying to illustrate a point.  But it seems it may have been lost....what I am saying is people have reasons for doing things that may seem foreign to others.  Just a part of life.  What may seem odd to you is not to others and vice-versa.

 

 

which is why I said I was curious if anyone had any insight as to what drives someone to continuously talk about video games they dislike...in life people do this all the time on religion or politics but generally its part of some sort of agenda ...just seems video games should be about fun about entertainment... I guess I'm wrong who knows... oh also as I see someone else poked at my post count I'm in the military I work 12 hour shifts with half my time traveling to various locations around the area and luckily I usually don't drive so I have plenty of extra time to post from my phone.

 Socrates, one example of sitting around and talking about stuff he didn't like.....guess nothing good came of that.

/sarcasm off

Originally posted by Xzen

Originally posted by Randayn

Originally posted by Bjelar

Originally posted by Randayn

Originally posted by Bjelar

I agree but there is something weird and good also,Grenadier Engineers ,it is actually skill based class (only one)

You have extensivly tested all classes with all weapons thouroghly in PvE, dungeons and PvP already? Wow. I thought I played a lot.

when will fanbois realize that it's less about what you can do with your toon then what's needed to succeed.....this game is EASY...no real difficulty...it's also chaotic because there are no real roles for each person....

Like the OP said, DCUO combat is much more skill based and you HAVE to put everything in your arsenal to use to be successful....that's the difference..

Did you just call me a fanboy? Please answer.

no, I called you a fanboi....no difference cept for the "i" replaces the "y"....this forum is milked to the bone with fanbois....claiming this game is difficult and requires skill....it's just plain false...my 7 year old plays this game all the time and has 0 difficulty killing things....I try to play, but realize I won't be challenged nor progress as much as most MMO's would offer.

I've seen the game called easy by fans and too hard by a lot of haters. People are all over the place on this subject. I think the game is easy and I still think it's fun.

his is how I feel- I am in my mid 40s and havnt died yet. (not counting WVW - I am speaking PVE) but its fun. I kill a few hours here and there and have gotten my $$$ out of the game already.

If I played alot though I would be very bored- I am taking it easy and casual and still having fun so far.

-That said it really is lacking in the depth dept.

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Dude, thgis Forum is for discussion.

Discuss or leave (dont complain about OPs opinion)

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

 

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Originally posted by grimal

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Originally posted by Nightgroper Now I get that this is the review section, and everyone has an opinion but what can be said that has not been said already? Good or bad, there are several other wall of text reviews out there already posted. Everything you have stated here, has been said already, did you need to make an entire new thread for it? You couldn't just post in another's thread that you agreed with, or even offered what you would have added or taken out of their review?   

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Funny, I don't see you complaining about the numerous near identical positive reviews about the game. 

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I find blatant double standard in and of itself worth speaking out against. In as much as someone says to OP you shouldn't keep posing negative opinions, and you should stick to the threads already established, But Threads die. If someone does that they get the "necro" flame. Also not all threads mirror the OPs feelings exactly. And guess what? It can also be said of the opposite. You shouldn't post positive things either. That way, there would be no new threads on this site until some new news broke. Nothing good or bad, Because you say to the OP "Move On!" The OP can say it right back. "Move on" You didn't have to click on teh title, you saw it from the forum board. You didn't need to come in here. You knew the subject wouldn't apply to you. But no, No negative opinion can be left un white knighted.

Wait, what? When did I say for him to "move on". I'm more of looking at typical forum etiquette, since I believe one of the rules for most forums, unless it has changed is: Use the damn search function before postting any new threads.

That's my main complaint here. I get it. I really do. Making a new thread causes a greater impact. I'm not saying his opinion is unimportant, well to me it is because I don't know the OP personally so his opinion is worthless to me.

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Originally posted by ChrisReitz
OverAll; dont play it. No one is forcing you too. You just wasted a couple hours writing this. In a useless thread that will die in about a week. Go pat yourself on the back and read a book?

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So if he had come out and made a well thought, well written meaningful post that praised all the good qualities of the game, what would be different? And so then what differentiates that from the other 99% of posts on these boards?

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Originally posted by Nightgroper

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Originally posted by GeezerGamer  

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Originally posted by grimal

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Originally posted by Nightgroper Now I get that this is the review section, and everyone has an opinion but what can be said that has not been said already? Good or bad, there are several other wall of text reviews out there already posted. Everything you have stated here, has been said already, did you need to make an entire new thread for it? You couldn't just post in another's thread that you agreed with, or even offered what you would have added or taken out of their review?   

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Funny, I don't see you complaining about the numerous near identical positive reviews about the game. 

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  I find blatant double standard in and of itself worth speaking out against. In as much as someone says to OP you shouldn't keep posing negative opinions, and you should stick to the threads already established, But Threads die. If someone does that they get the "necro" flame. Also not all threads mirror the OPs feelings exactly. And guess what? It can also be said of the opposite. You shouldn't post positive things either. That way, there would be no new threads on this site until some new news broke. Nothing good or bad, Because you say to the OP "Move On!" The OP can say it right back. "Move on" You didn't have to click on teh title, you saw it from the forum board. You didn't need to come in here. You knew the subject wouldn't apply to you. But no, No negative opinion can be left un white knighted.

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Wait, what? When did I say for him to "move on". I'm more of looking at typical forum etiquette, since I believe one of the rules for most forums, unless it has changed is: Use the damn search function before postting any new threads.

That's my main complaint here. I get it. I really do. Making a new thread causes a greater impact. I'm not saying his opinion is unimportant, well to me it is because I don't know the OP personally so his opinion is worthless to me.

 

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I apologize, I was responding to the post between. In summed up the thoughts based on prior posts in this thread. I realize it looks like I singled you out and I didn't mean to. For that, I'm sorry.

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

 

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Originally posted by grimal

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Originally posted by Nightgroper Now I get that this is the review section, and everyone has an opinion but what can be said that has not been said already? Good or bad, there are several other wall of text reviews out there already posted. Everything you have stated here, has been said already, did you need to make an entire new thread for it? You couldn't just post in another's thread that you agreed with, or even offered what you would have added or taken out of their review?   

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Funny, I don't see you complaining about the numerous near identical positive reviews about the game. 

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I find blatant double standard in and of itself worth speaking out against. In as much as someone says to OP you shouldn't keep posing negative opinions, and you should stick to the threads already established, But Threads die. If someone does that they get the "necro" flame. Also not all threads mirror the OPs feelings exactly. And guess what? It can also be said of the opposite. You shouldn't post positive things either. That way, there would be no new threads on this site until some new news broke. Nothing good or bad, Because you say to the OP "Move On!" The OP can say it right back. "Move on" You didn't have to click on teh title, you saw it from the forum board. You didn't need to come in here. You knew the subject wouldn't apply to you. But no, No negative opinion can be left un white knighted.

Sorry to say you're pissing in the wind my friends. No amount of common sense will stem the tide of overbearing arrogance in those who feel they have to come in here and sling insults any time they feel someone is "messin with their toot toot", which is kind of amusing as they seem not to understand that its this very vitriolic behavior that keeps so many of these negetive threads popping up as some people find it amusing to watch them go into their foaming at the mouth spasms.

Don't agree with this guys review? Fine. Then go write your fucking own.

Oh and MACBETH!!!!

Originally posted by ChrisReitz
OverAll; dont play it. No one is forcing you too. You just wasted a couple hours writing this. In a useless thread that will die in about a week. Go pat yourself on the back and read a book?

This thread cannot be useless if it touched you so much  After playing GW2 since August 28 minus last week I find this thread a spot on. For me (very) personally GW2 is a mediocre game at best.

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Originally posted by Aerowyn
which is why I said I was curious if anyone had any insight as to what drives someone to continuously talk about video games they dislike...in life people do this all the time on religion or politics but generally its part of some sort of agenda ...just seems video games should be about fun about entertainment... I guess I'm wrong who knows...

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1) If someone were to come to this site looking for "players thoughts" on a game, are they better served with only one side being bandied about?

2) Some posters are just trolls. Deep down, all they want is to rile people up.

3) Sometimes, postings get so sweet that a little vinegar helps cut down the sweetness. Call it playing devil's advocate, if you will.

4) Some posters may believe that what they post will help others make a decision, good or bad.

5) Some posters feel they are on a crusade against a game/developer/publisher/company. Sometimes, a poster may feel "cheated" by a game and shoulder the burden of letting everyone who will read know their personal situation.

I am sure there are many other reasons why posters post negatively about games they do not enjoy, but hopefully these will help you understand why some negative postings get posted. I am NO expert by any means. I just like studying human nature :)

@ GeezerGamer  

I have to apologize as well, since I kinda misunderstood your post as singling me out. Anyways back on topic. I slightly disagree with the statement of no resource managment. There is some the most basic of all resources in battle, your health. Though I do agree with the combo field, the first 20 levels I found it useless, and after I hit 23-24 I started trying to use it more. I do agree about dodge. I mean I know how important it is but I always forget about it.