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  MikeB Community Manager

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OP  9/26/12 3:31:59 AM#1

Wouldn't Gearbox Software's Borderlands IP make for a great MMO? We certainly think so! Read on for our thoughts and let us know what you think.

I’ve had an (un)healthy obsession with Borderlands going back to the original release of the game in 2009. In general, I’m a fan of Gearbox Software’s work, especially with the Brothers in Arms series, but the studio really outdid itself with the original Borderlands and now Borderlands 2. With both games already aping many MMO tropes and with such a clear focus on a multiplayer experience, it really begs the question: should there be a Borderlands MMO?

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9/26/12 9:02:38 AM#2



Borderlands? Why not?




Don't give them any ideas.

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9/26/12 9:09:59 AM#3
Considering in less than five years the rate at which mmo players will return to play mmo's is less than 10 percent of todays current mmo gamers population... It won't matter.

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9/26/12 9:27:32 AM#4
Originally posted by WhiteLantern

Don't give them any ideas.


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9/26/12 9:55:36 AM#5

I love Borderlands and now, Borderlands 2, they are my go-to games for when I need a quick pick me up or just in the mood for some mindless violence. Whenever I'm without an MMO, it's time to boot up Steam and play some Borderlands, happens everytime, I could just cut out the middle man and go straight to Borderlands.

A borderlands MMO would make for a pretty amazing experience, but, I'm pretty sure it would be a long and agonizing time away. It's best if they do have something, don't advertise it or even announce it, I would go crazy waiting for it.




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9/26/12 10:06:34 AM#6
Originally posted by WhiteLantern

Don't give them any ideas.



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9/26/12 10:16:23 AM#7

Well, basically Borderlands has all that's needed to make it into a MMORPG, but a crafting-system.

The art-style is fanatastic, the humor is fantastic and the random weapons are aswell quiet nice. Add a crafting- and gathering-system to make pots and boosters, add some multiplayer-dungeons and add some PvP-maps or even a PvP-continent/sever/whatever and we're good to go.

Basically it would be nothing else then what Firefall is doing currently, but with a more RPG-style skill-system.


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9/26/12 10:36:35 AM#8
MMO mechanics would ruin half the fun of borderlands. Can't be very badass when things are impossible to beat unless you are in a group. Sorry but if they start working on Borderlands Online it'll just ruin the franchaise. MMO needs balancing, balancing in loot games makes them no where near as fun. D3 is proof of that.

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9/26/12 10:38:11 AM#9
Mmm....I don't think Borderlands would offer anything games like Firefall wouldn't beyond its unique characters or storyline. I think we're finally starting to see that oversaturation of MMOs die down (on our side of the world, at least), I wouldn't want to see that pick up again just because they could. It'd have to be something very different and unique, something to separate itself from the competition, at which point it probably wouldn't be Borderlands anymore.

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9/26/12 11:02:04 AM#10
Love borderlands, but not everything needs to be an MMO. Why can't it just be one of the finest coop shooters ever made.

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9/26/12 11:31:05 AM#11

Somethings to note about Borderlands 2:

1. Boss fights are all extremely simple, the trash before the bosses are definitely more difficult than the bosses that they lead up to. In fact some might say that the game suffers from Diablo 3 syndrome in more than one way, but I'll get to that in a bit.

2. The comparison of loot between Borderlands 1, to Borderlands 2. Borderlands 2 is the victim of restrictive loot tables, this absolutely  pigeon holes players into farming one specific boss hundreds of times. Sounds like fun right? Good luck getting a level 50 skullsmasher. Where as the Original Borderlands would have multiple locations for most loot, such as crimson chests, loot goons, and Bad Ass Lance types for pearlescent weapons.

3. Lack of content, this isn't exactly a D3 only problem, but rather a problem from most games that were released this year. Took me about 28 hours to beat the game twice over and realize I'm doing the same thing over and over again.

4. A serious disregard for play testing with real play testers, this is apparent to anyone who has ever worked in QA, or anyone who considers themselves a "Hardcore gamer" there is seriously no excuse for the Golden Key issue, the "Bee", or Salvador's "25m dps build". I wish more developers would take their testing more seriously sometimes.

5. Questing, yes while they did have a traditional questing system this doesn't mean that the quests themselves were necessarily "good" quests. Many of the quests felt like out of the way errand-esque tasks, these type of quests bother me so much. Then again maybe this one is me being absolutely dogmatic, but can you honestly say that this is the direction that games should continue to follow? Hell if they simply nixed all the parts where you have to turn in the quest, I would've been so much more happier.

I'm not saying that Borderlands 2 was a horrible game, in fact I rather liked it. I even like it more than Torchlight 2 currently, due to stability issues with TL2, but Gearbox as a company could use work on their content designers, and their play testers might need a once over as well.


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9/26/12 12:01:06 PM#12
A Borderlands loot system would be great, in any MMO.  Horribly unbalancing, but that's what would make it fun.  I hate MMO loot systems...

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.


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9/26/12 12:30:00 PM#13
I just made a coment in a GW2 thread that this game has sucked up ALL my entertainment time. Its soooo adicting and I never played part one. I thought it was going to be an ok game to play like 30 min at a time or what ever but OMG it ROCKS. Coop mode vs GW2 Dungeons IMO this game is far more fun. The loot is so rewarding. The Boss fights are outstanding. The art design is perfect. Looks excellent on the PC.

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9/26/12 12:33:00 PM#14
I for one would love a borderlands mmo and said it when I played the first one. Was playing and really liking firefall till gw2 dropped and that game seems to take a lot from borderlands but I think borderlands would be even better as an mmo.

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9/26/12 12:48:19 PM#15

I am loving Borderlands 2 at the moment. This is the first game in years that has made me stop playing whatever mmorpg I am playing and taken over. I think it could be a very successful mmorpg. Would need some thought though and a lot of work on it's mechanics. I say keep the loot system as it is.......Hilarity will ensue....Unless some fat b"£$ard Gunzerker is going for my purple sniper rifle..........That's not a eupemisum kids.


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9/26/12 3:16:46 PM#16

As intradasting (my made up word) as a Borderlands2 MMO would be it'd still be a Linear Themepark.


Think about it, Borderlands 2 for its AWESOME loot system is nothing more than an FPS co-op version of WoW with much better graphics, and a LOT more hilarious to play.


However, the longevity of the title just isn't there. I've tried, it just gets boring redoing the content over and over just looking for cooler loot. :(


I'd rather have a Borderlands 2 open-world sandbox :).

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9/26/12 3:49:23 PM#17
would not play propably

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9/26/12 4:28:42 PM#18
Having played the hell out of both games I can assure you that BL would not work as an MMO. It would fit very well if it used the same structure as GW1.

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9/26/12 7:06:27 PM#19
Strange, my post wasn't here when i come to look for it?

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9/26/12 11:37:04 PM#20
Let's just not let this happen, please...
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