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  halflife25

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9/26/12 7:51:22 AM#61

Metacritic is a joke. How the hell can anyone score ANY MMO just with in 24 hrs of relese? nonsense.

Metacritic is a new heaven for trolls.

  smh_alot

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9/26/12 7:52:23 AM#62
Originally posted by neobahamut20
Originally posted by Psychow

Metacritic is becomming less and less usefull as it's users abuse the ratings.

 

Why is it so hard for people to just "play fair" and rate the game like a normal, unbiased, human being instead of a rabid fanboi or hater?

 

I don't think I even look at ratings anymore unless is some obscure indi game on Steam.

This is filled with flaws and unfortunately for you, I like to point out bullshitters.

 

First, Metacrititc is not less useful nor more useful. It is a popular marketting tool. You seem to not be able to make the difference between a metacritic score and a user score. The metacritic scores are taken from actual critics and averaged out from there. Sure each critic can be bought off to give a high score SW:TOR   but it remains widely used as a first glance reference, even appearing on Steam. As Steam is still gaining in popularity, so is the "usefulness" of metacritic. Many will simply not look at a game with a metacritic score under 50. 

The user score is where users rate a game. That score, as all user scores has always and will always be completely worthless. Humans will always rate emotionally and bitter users are far more tempted to write off their emotions on a game than happy users are. (The why is explained in a previous post of mine in this thread)

 

Then you seem to seriously question why people can't play fair. A valid question with a stupid assumption. The assumption that normal humans are unbiased. Everyone is emotional, even those who do this daily and have their perception included in the actual metacritic score. Life is not fair, humans are not machines. In fact, humans are emotional meatbags with an ego. So the question you are really asking is, why can't humans be objective?

Well objectivity is actually a concept taught along with critical thought. A society able to function with a majority of critical thinkers is unknown to mankind. It is far more efficient for those in charge (corporations, not your Dear Government) to keep people emotional. So from day one, you are taught to live an emotional life. As such, you are sold happiness, along with the concept that money does buy happiness, if only for a little while. However, as true as it might be, it remains an excuse, an excuse fabricated through fear. The only ones to blame are your parents as they have failed you. So why aren't people objective? Because they were let down, by parenting failures and so, they never learned it.

 

Lastly, your nonsensical rambling makes sense, you make a perceptual judgment of Metacritic's usefulness, as it relates to you alone and emotionally state that you dont look at them.... EXCEPT if its an indie game on Steam. So you go asking why people can't be objective and your very next statement is one that relates and is affected by your own personal perception. Well, the answers you seek fellow human, you stare at them in the mirror and yet remain too blind to notice them.

 

Maybe I glanced over the text too quickly, but looks to me that both you and the guy you quoted are in essence saying the same thing only from a different viewpoint: namely that the ratings on Metacritic have no or at best little value, bc the official review figures can be bought and the user ones are prone to emotional bias for or against a game or its makers. Also you both acknowledge the given that most people aren't foremost logical, objective creatures but ruled in their decisions and statements by emotion, making a more objective (re)view impossible for the majority.


I agree as well btw that corporations and therefore also by ultracapitalist owned news companies prefer to see people as happy, rabid consumers in a perpetual state of emotional turmoil. God forbid that people as a whole actually would start to grow up as a human being and use their brains for a true rational, critical way of thinking about the essentials in life, and thus become harder to control and manipulate.
  sumdumguy1

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9/26/12 7:56:19 AM#63
Originally posted by Foomerang

Gw2 fanboys making alt accounts and bash wow. Then proclaim on their main account that they "never troll other game forums". Happened yesterday a couple times and at least once again today...

Certainly a possibility.  I do know several people I work with who rushed out and got it.  I have heard many bad things from them.  All of them,(seven in all so we are not talking about a mass population here) are not going to continue playing it.  One of them summed it up pretty well when he said, I was looking for a reason to renew that magic I had with the game, but this clearly isn't it.

  Candomble

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9/26/12 7:58:39 AM#64

My personnal launch experience was great. No DCs,  no lag, no queues. Nagrand EU. Way better than GW2 for example.

 

3.3? It could go to 0.1. I would play it the same way. The expansion doesn't seem great, the game is getting older, but as long as it keeps me entertained for some time, I'm ok with it. When I burnout (again - I have been away from WoW since 1 1/2 year ago), I'll leave. Simple. And I'll do it with 0.1 or 9.9 on Metacritic.

  smh_alot

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9/26/12 7:59:08 AM#65
Originally posted by halflife25

Metacritic is a joke. How the hell can anyone score ANY MMO just with in 24 hrs of relese? nonsense.

Metacritic is a new heaven for trolls.

 

This. Any review that quickly after launch should be regarded suspicious and coming from people who just rate a 1st impression or have an agenda: either to bash the game they despise to the ground, or to praise it to heaven, but in both cases with little backing from extensive gameplay experience.


As for the OP, someone said that it was an alt of a GW2 fanboi. Well, that's too rash a conclusion: it could be from a GW2 fanboi, but easily as well from a WoW hater, or a sandbox activist or an Activision/Blizzard hater etc. But I myself consider any account that is new and that immediately goes for the bashing or trolling route as suspicious. Because that's what someone would do who'd want to make statements that it didn't want to be linked to its own account (either bc it can result in a ban or warning, or bc people might dismiss it by saying 'ah, it's that campaigning guy again with its eternal rants for or against a game; obviously heavily biased')
  kaiser3282

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9/26/12 8:02:49 AM#66
Originally posted by halflife25

Metacritic is a joke. How the hell can anyone score ANY MMO just with in 24 hrs of relese? nonsense.

Metacritic is a new heaven for trolls.

WoW has been out for years, it didnt just release. Its an expansion. Doesnt take you very long, if you already know the game, to see whats changed and know if you like the change or not.

  Hyperwolf

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9/26/12 8:13:15 AM#67
Looks ok to me. I picked up the box today at EB Games and checked it out. I don't think I could return to WoW after playing GW2 but I'm sure it will bring new people in and make existing people happy. I find metacritic useful sometimes but in this case it seems a bit like the GW2 user scores. Lots of over reaction by lovers and haters alike without meaningful reviews or scores. 

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  smh_alot

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9/26/12 8:21:11 AM#68
Just checked Metacritic, the usual extremes in ratings and comments that has become common at Metacritic. I do agree with this guy though, Deadalon, who stated the following:

Blizzard creates good games. But at some point in the last 5 yeas they stopped caring for the playerbase and instead are only thinking profit and money. MOP is not a bad expansion per say. But its just not good enough in terms of 10 million subscriber based game that should be delivering content regularly and with full focus on improving every aspect of the game. Blizzard is not doing that. For the last 5 years most of the money they got for WOW has gone into other games they are making and WOW is suffering because of it. It has been left to rot - just like 8 months of last raiding tier in Cata goes to show. They didn't even have an active Live content crew on the game to keep the subscribers intrested. Instead they created Annual pass so ppl could SUB for MOP beta. Just bad all around. Im playing and leveling - but the bitterness of how BLizzard is doing their buisness these days is hard to swallow.


WoW could've been more, but it's obvious that the vast majority of revenues they gained with WoW wasn't spent on WoW, it has become an easy cash cow to them for which only low maintenance was required. At least, that's how they've been treating it the past years. Then again, Blizzard simply isn't the company anymore that it was 10 years ago, the spirit, vision and heart they showed in their products and everything around it back then has faded away over the past years.

Ah well, they had a great run with a spectacularly successful and profitable game with WoW, how sad it may be, but nothing stays the same forever. You were great and truly legendary, Blizzard, I'll remember you fondly as how you were in your glory days, not how you've become.
  lizardbones

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9/26/12 8:30:22 AM#69


Originally posted by Ren128

Originally posted by Eazydzzz http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria/user-reviews?sort-by=date&num_items=100   Just thought I would share.   A 3.3 seems a little high.  I am pretty angry about spending $40 on MoP!
 

Seems like most scores are either very low (0-2) or very high (8-10) with hardly anything in-between, meaning MoP polarised people. 

 

It will be intresting to see sales and sub figures for this.




That polarization is MetaCritic, not the game. The reviews are generally more of a "Love It" or "Hate It" kind of thing. I look at it as an odds kind of thing. Out of every 100 people who buy the game, you can expect X% to really like the game and X% to really hate the game. It doesn't necessarily mean that I have that same chance to really like or really hate the game though.

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  Axxar

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9/26/12 8:44:08 AM#70
They should disable user scores on Metacritic to prevent this kind of crap.

Currently playing: Divinity: Original Sin, FTL, Hearthstone and Skyrim.
Eagerly anticipating: Camelot Unchained, Elite: Dangerous, Legend of Grimrock 2 and Star Citizen.

  IMPYRE

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Yes, I have a question. When did you turn into a nutbar?

9/26/12 8:44:43 AM#71

 

WoW: MoP isn't that bad, but a 3.3 - I see fanatics from other mmo's judging WoWs new expansion.

But I wish Blizz would have went into a different direction with its new expansion.

 

  Karteli

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9/26/12 1:14:38 PM#72
Originally posted by Axxar
They should disable user scores on Metacritic to prevent this kind of crap.

Ah yes, a censored world is much more fun to live in .. unless people disagree .  No worries just label them as heretics and burn them at the stake to shut them up eh? :P

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  Uhwop

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9/26/12 1:16:10 PM#73

You know user scores on meta critic are acurate because the only way you can rate it is if you purchased and played it.

Oh wait...

  alexmino

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9/26/12 1:18:46 PM#74
Bitter people angry that it's selling better than GW2.
  dudeduder45

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9/26/12 1:19:20 PM#75
Originally posted by Eazydzzz
Originally posted by Nitth

It hasnt even been out a day lol..

That could be why the score is so high.  A lot of the people giving it 10s probably didn't play beta.

This made me laugh, thanks for that

  NightBandit

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9/26/12 1:20:15 PM#76
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Foomerang

Gw2 fanboys making alt accounts and bash wow. Then proclaim on their main account that they "never troll other game forums". Happened yesterday a couple times and at least once again today...

You have all the answers.  Should I kneel??

 Lolz....I also bash wow, but do so in the open as that's how I feel and don't hide behind another account as I'm not bothered what anyone else thinks about me on here anyway. However I find that 3.3 is a little high, but then I never bought it so I'm not able to comment on the game play. IMO it will keep Wow afloat for a few more months that's for sure due to loyal players supporting the game. But alas I feel it's still a dead donkey waiting to be flogged.

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  Muke

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9/26/12 1:20:54 PM#77
Originally posted by alexmino
Bitter people angry that it's selling better than GW2.

not really, if MOP < GW2 then the kungfu pandabois would be running rampant in GW2!

WoW has the community it deserves, let's hope they stay there. :)

 

Although I loved WOW players who entered EVE Online till they went to the cloning office. ^^

 

"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  urthal22

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9/26/12 1:24:10 PM#78

I give this thread a  0 out of 10 ,   what is it worth to you,  nothing.

 

Same as meta critics of games.... Its people opinion, let it be professional or not... it will be based upon what they want and feel like saying at the time their fingers hit a keyboard.

 

Make your own Reviews, Be your own Judge.

 

I dont play WoW , I personally dont like the direction they took since WoTK , I dont scream it up high that they ruined everything, etc.

 

  gbooster

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9/26/12 1:25:57 PM#79

3.3 on Metacritic?

Must be an awesome game if the trolls are trying so hard.

  Uhwop

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9/26/12 1:34:02 PM#80
Originally posted by NightBandit
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Foomerang

Gw2 fanboys making alt accounts and bash wow. Then proclaim on their main account that they "never troll other game forums". Happened yesterday a couple times and at least once again today...

You have all the answers.  Should I kneel??

 Lolz....I also bash wow, but do so in the open as that's how I feel and don't hide behind another account as I'm not bothered what anyone else thinks about me on here anyway. However I find that 3.3 is a little high, but then I never bought it so I'm not able to comment on the game play. IMO it will keep Wow afloat for a few more months that's for sure due to loyal players supporting the game. But alas I feel it's still a dead donkey waiting to be flogged.

Bandit

 You didn't buy it so you can't comment on the gameplay, but the 3.3 is high, even though you never bought it so you can't comment on the gameplay. 

WTF? 

Why didn't you just say that 3.3 is high because you don't like the game?  Obviosly your credibility sits somewhere between zero and none. 

You're probably the same type of person that will tell people a movie sucks that you've never seen, a book was bad that you've never read, or a restaruant isn't any good that you've never eaten at. 

Yeah, that's a lot of credibility you got there. 

 

PS:  This is exactly why user ratings, and player opinion is just about the worste way to decide if you should play something.  People as a rule are simply not fair or objective in there opinions.  This guy came right out and said he didn't play it and that the really low rating is still to high.  Why in the world would you ever trust Meta critic user ratings when you have people just like this going to meta critic to rate games they never played. 

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