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  Icewhite

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9/25/12 5:19:23 PM#41

Didn't the guy who used to run mmogcharts (Nick Ye?) observe that, historically, expansions don't 'save games' or affect subs in any significant way long-term?

Short sub bubble just before expanson day, and for few months after.  Six months later, same level as pre-expansion.

Wouldn't put my money on Panda either making or breaking a mature game.

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  Sukiyaki

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9/25/12 5:23:51 PM#42
2 weeks and everyone will be back to GW2.
  Karelia

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9/25/12 5:28:55 PM#43
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
2 weeks and everyone will be back to GW2.

2 weeks and gw2 will be dead. and if its not will be because of non sub system and not because its something special. most ppl already have it as an alt mmo, as me and my friends do

  Phry

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9/25/12 5:30:10 PM#44
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
2 weeks and everyone will be back to GW2.

so you are seeing people leaving GW2 to play WoW.. i guess that would explain the fall off on Xfire..  though some might say that whats really happened is that people who took a break from WoW to try out GW2 are now returning.. 

  Kasmos

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9/25/12 5:34:44 PM#45

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people return, at least for a while. All new MMOs that have come out are pretty atrocious, and even though I find WoW atrocious as well (post Battlegrounds launch), it's understandable why a good amount of people would return.

 

All in all I don't care though, the themepark crowd will hop around like they have been for the past 8 years while company after company releases the same crappy "rollercoaster-ride" MMO. I'm just happy I got out of the muddled themepark division of the MMO genre a long time ago.

  Tamanous

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9/25/12 5:42:31 PM#46
Originally posted by Icewhite

Didn't the guy who used to run mmogcharts (Nick Ye?) observe that, historically, expansions don't 'save games' or affect subs in any significant way long-term?

Short sub bubble just before expanson day, and for few months after.  Six months later, same level as pre-expansion.

Wouldn't put my money on Panda either making or breaking a mature game.

This is completely true. Expansions are toppings and have little or nothing to do with the base game. It is content chasing and only succeeds enough to maintain the model due to Bliz creating solid content which they do best. Unfortuneately it isn't enough for many of those who have been through the cycle far too many times and see it for what it is ... a new toy that will lose it's shine and excitement in a short amount of time. Those players do not want to go through it all over again.

 

Bliz is the master of brainwashing and propaganda though and can still pull the masses back for just long enough to make it worth while though. Sadly it long ago made me and many others I know feel like sheeple and we wish not to repeat it.

You stay sassy!

  User Deleted
9/25/12 7:18:07 PM#47

Two of my best friends are trying to get me to play with them. One is still in wow, the other in gw2. Had to break it to em that i am playing rift and having too much fun hehe

  Amjoco

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9/25/12 8:33:19 PM#48

Wyrmrest Accord, a PvE server has a 13 minute queue to enter the server. That is a semi-good sign I guess. 

Stormwind was over-run by Pandarians! The Westfall beach near the northern end was filled with Panda's killing murlocs! 

Fun Stuff :)

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  User Deleted
9/25/12 9:12:13 PM#49

Somebody needs to make s video of all these pandas running around with this song in the background.panda style

  Mike_L

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9/26/12 4:45:21 AM#50

I seem there are quite a few of you who seem to think you speak on behalf of players who left or came back and even know percentage of this and that. Fact is that you are just pulling numbers randomly out of the lower part of your back. Don't do that. there are no numbers out so don't bring it into the talk.

 

MOP is not what is killing wow. The game has been losing players for a long time. That will continue. MMORPG has had an interesting debate going on for a couple of days about your favourite expansion of wow (original wow, THB, Cata, or?) It seemed like a LOT of those who took part voted the original wow high on the list. Lots actually had the original version of wow (vanilla) as number one on their top 4 list.

 

WoW has moved too far away from the original wow and no expansion will bring the big numbers we knew back.

If it ain't dead you're not pressing 2 hard enough.

  daltanious

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9/26/12 6:51:43 AM#51
Originally posted by roo67

I've been playing WoW for the last month as a returning player . Its useful to me because when I work away from home ( which amounts to a month or two a year )  it is a game that plays reasonably well on my laptop ( on low settings  ) . The BG aspect of WoW is still something I enjoy .

I did log in last night when MoP went live and saw a slight increase in populations there were 18 high servers ( some of which were locked ) this is slighly up on the average 10-15 high servers . There were around 40 medium load servers ( again slighly up ) .

Logging in this lunchtime the numbers have dropped slightly but thats to be understood .Also we have factor in a lot of children probably wont play till tonight .

The only comparison I have to make is to previous WoW expansions . I did have a similar conversation on this topic in another forum when cataclysm was released .

Back then on day one . I saw 35 + full servers . That was from the moment of release and lasted all day long with no drop off . I do recall hearing Blizzard had increased the numbers of people a server could take but I think this happened prior to Cataclysm and not after . If thats correct it wouldn't explain the drop in full servers upon the release of MoP .

If may be too early to draw many conclusions from this as thing may pick up but to me it looks like initial download sales ( in the EU ) at least are lower than the previous expansion on day one .

How is it looking in other areas like North America ?

Edit ***** please be aware I m refering to english speaking servers .

Well on Bronze Dragonflight there were no queues to login at any time, a lot of players of course at main quest giver (with zillion yells "dismount you noobs" :-)) ... but I do not have not even remotely impression there were so many as with Cata release. After 5 hours in Stormwind there were 10 or 12 monks ... and that's all. Guess in new world were much more, but have decided to first finish starting area for panda monks.

  Ambros123

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9/26/12 7:00:12 AM#52
Originally posted by expresso
Well I just played it for half hour (spent over an hour in a queue mind you) and I kinda have the WoW bug again.. the atmosphere, music pulled me right back in, only stopped playing cus the lag was too much and I forgot how to play my hunter, I'll give a few days and jump right back in.  Still have GW2 to get to cap only lvl 64, but as GW2 end game is rather limiting I think it's all worked out rather well.

So not even level capped and you already know for certain what end game will be like?  Wow... can you pcik my lotto numbers then as apparenlty you have a knack for knowing the unkown.

  Ambros123

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9/26/12 7:03:31 AM#53
Originally posted by Icewhite

Didn't the guy who used to run mmogcharts (Nick Ye?) observe that, historically, expansions don't 'save games' or affect subs in any significant way long-term?

Short sub bubble just before expanson day, and for few months after.  Six months later, same level as pre-expansion.

Wouldn't put my money on Panda either making or breaking a mature game.

  Like Cata was with me, people will come back to check it out, put in no serious committment n leave.  Have no intrest in shelling out 60 bucks just to try something out when there is no long term intrest in it.

Which GW2 might break that mold or at least lower the frequency of it... then again might not.

  Ambros123

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9/26/12 7:10:26 AM#54
Originally posted by papardelios
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
2 weeks and everyone will be back to GW2.

2 weeks and gw2 will be dead. and if its not will be because of non sub system and not because its something special. most ppl already have it as an alt mmo, as me and my friends do

Even before GW2 launch people had it on their list as an alt MMO since it's B2P.  And where is your survey that verifies that "most" people have it as their alt list and not a moderate or low amount.  Then again you are just pulling numbers out of your ass that is typical behavior on these forums.  People have been preaching that GW2 will be dead in a few weeks after launch and yet people are claiming it's still going strong.

  scotty899

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9/26/12 7:12:21 AM#55
Originally posted by papardelios
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
2 weeks and everyone will be back to GW2.

2 weeks and gw2 will be dead. and if its not will be because of non sub system and not because its something special. most ppl already have it as an alt mmo, as me and my friends do

gw2 dead? uhuh. a mighty fine crystal ball you have there lol

  User Deleted
9/26/12 7:12:54 AM#56

I'm locked out of my server. Prime time oceanic. I've been in cue for 30 minutes already. 

 

As of now, I'm position 2168

Estimated time 57 min

 

But it keeps changing

 

Just jumped 2151

98 min

 

??

 

EDIT: 149 in q!!!

 

 

  Elesthor

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Kolotoumping

9/26/12 8:39:16 AM#57

Typical stuff. 

People get all excited with the new expac. and nostalgia kicks in.

People will buy Pandaria and sub for a month. 

People will level to cap in one week and see that nothing has changed and they are grinding the same old sh*t.

People will start quiting again in a couple of weeks.

Blizzard will release a content patch in 10 months begging for people to sub.

People get all excited with the new patch. and nostalgia kicks in...

 

 

  Gravarg

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9/26/12 10:18:16 AM#58
There was actually a queue on my server last night...haven't seen that in years :)
  Kost

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9/26/12 10:23:24 AM#59
Originally posted by papardelios
Originally posted by Sukiyaki
2 weeks and everyone will be back to GW2.

2 weeks and gw2 will be dead. and if its not will be because of non sub system and not because its something special. most ppl already have it as an alt mmo, as me and my friends do

Too hard when you can't rely on a discrepancy based entirely on gear to achieve victory eh?

Skill based isn't for everyone! Have fun playing World of Kung Fu Pokemon.

  fiftyplusgeek

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9/26/12 10:41:34 AM#60
Originally posted by Amjoco

Wyrmrest Accord, a PvE server has a 13 minute queue to enter the server. That is a semi-good sign I guess. 

Stormwind was over-run by Pandarians! The Westfall beach near the northern end was filled with Panda's killing murlocs! 

Fun Stuff :)

I play on Wyrmrest and there have been queues every time I log in. As for the Pandarians, I think a lot of folks are just trying them out, which is normal for a new race. I rolled a bear monk, played the first 10 levels, and then rolled a human monk and started playing a proper alt. ;-)

I actaully got the name 'Shalhoub', which was oddly enough still available.

I am no longer responsible for anything my phone decides is correct in the way of word choices and punctuation.

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