Originally posted by Eazydzzz

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/world-of-warcraft-mists-of-pandaria/user-reviews?sort-by=date&num_items=100

 

Just thought I would share.

 

A 3.3 seems a little high.  I am pretty angry about spending $40 on MoP!

Metacritic isnt the end all be all, play the game if you want. WOW has had great production value, it's the main reason its so big, i would give the game overall a 9.5/10 no matter the expac.

Speaking strictly from experiences on the Beta, this is one of the best expansions that has ever come for World of Warcraft (and since it may be questioned, since open beta in WoW).  Though with the amount of people who have some childish hatred for this game (or any game in general) it is not surprising that people will give it a zero when it hasn't even been released for more than a day.  If meta critic only allowed players who actually owned games to review them, I'd say that most user reviews on every game would be vastly different.  

Gamers today have, as a whole, lost the ability of distinct between games or give unbias opinions.  The amount of trashing other MMOs that aren't WoW is a disgrace, and so is the retort and hatred of bashing WoW as a sort of revenge or simply because it is human nature to dislike something popular that you are not a part of.

The only thing that I am not a fan of so far is the queue.  It seems that everyone is playing this expansion, and I've been in line for almost an hour; being on multiple realms, this is also a problem since I can't log into the characters that I want.

Originally posted by AdamTM

Originally posted by drakes821

Almost any big mainstream AAA game that is released will get panned on Metacritic on the first couple of days for some reason.

My theory is all the people who actually bought the game are playing it while only childish trolls pop on there and post their horrible scores for something they don't play.

Give it a month and the score will more acurately represent the quality of the game.

And I don't like or dislike WoW, I've never really played it, this opinion is just based off of watching mulitple metacritic scores at launch.

Actually thats something I never observed.

What I observed is a lot of low scores if the game has game-breaking or technical flaws at launch.

The last AAA games released in the last two months had green user reviews from the go, even the MMOs.

I suppose it's hard to communicate but I was refering to AAA games that have a lot of hate centered around them.

For example CoD was smashed on metecritic at launch just because so many people seem to hate the series, WoW is the same way in the MMO world to an extent, a lot of haters for no real reason.

I do agree though games with glitches at launch do get panned as well, at least that's what happened to Diablo 3 at launch.

Originally posted by drakes821

Originally posted by AdamTM

Originally posted by drakes821

Almost any big mainstream AAA game that is released will get panned on Metacritic on the first couple of days for some reason.

My theory is all the people who actually bought the game are playing it while only childish trolls pop on there and post their horrible scores for something they don't play.

Give it a month and the score will more acurately represent the quality of the game.

And I don't like or dislike WoW, I've never really played it, this opinion is just based off of watching mulitple metacritic scores at launch.

Actually thats something I never observed.

What I observed is a lot of low scores if the game has game-breaking or technical flaws at launch.

The last AAA games released in the last two months had green user reviews from the go, even the MMOs.

I suppose it's hard to communicate but I was refering to AAA games that have a lot of hate centered around them.

For example CoD was smashed on metecritic at launch just because so many people seem to hate the series, WoW is the same way in the MMO world to an extent, a lot of haters for no real reason.

I do agree though games with glitches at launch do get panned as well, at least that's what happened to Diablo 3 at launch.

This is very true, and it's frustrating.  Nothing that can be done about it, but it just makes you question the person in general when they feel the need to do it.  Perhaps it is common, and the people who realize that it's happening are the exclusion and have some thread of wisdom to not partake in the same folly.

Originally posted by Demandman
In before 8.5-9 average score from integrity stripped game reviewers.

Genuinely liking a game and reviewing it as it should be reviewed does not make for a poor professional critic.  Though the one critic that already posted is just as bad as all the "zeros" who haven't even bought the game or are giving it reviews because they have networking problems.

Originally posted by Yaevindusk

Originally posted by Demandman
In before 8.5-9 average score from integrity stripped game reviewers.

 

Genuinely liking a game and reviewing it as it should be reviewed does not make for a poor professional critic.  Though the one critic that already posted is just as bad as all the "zeros" who haven't even bought the game or are giving it reviews because they have networking problems.

Every single AAA game receives conveniently positive ratings.

Ill admit people just bash wow on here and metacrit who never play the game, There is a reason wows meta crit score is low but it has way mroe subs then any other game out there, 

Its not because its mainstream or any of that, I have fun in it, its why i play if i dont have fun im not gonna play a game period. 

That said the one issue i did have was the gyrocopter that is the dumbest opening quest ever, Really they should of thought that one out more, i couldnt see anything except other copters, 

So i logged for 30 mins got a panda to level 5 came back and everyone had cleared out enough to do the quest, 

Mop at least on my server bt is duing just as well as cata, People even who didn't buy mop are loving playing the panda and the players in game seem generally happy so far so take that for what it is, 

In the us i have had 0 issues, I got booted once but its cause my net went out not because of wow. 

It seems metacritic attracts a lot of angry people.  D3 being online only and having a RMAH doomed the scores of anything else Blizzard releases after.  I have no interes tin MoP, but that doesn't mean I'm going to go and post a low score in a review for it.

It's also another example of how metacritic has zero affect on sales and neither does it reflect true consumer reactions.

So quick to hate on WoW.. funny thing is alot of people say EVERYONE is upset or the MAJORITY of the players have problems.. yet the game still has millions of players figure that out for me.

Sorry if EVERYONE or even the MAJORITY had issues as much as these sites claim.. well WoW would be every other MMO.

Originally posted by Demandman

Originally posted by Yaevindusk

Originally posted by Demandman
In before 8.5-9 average score from integrity stripped game reviewers.

 

Genuinely liking a game and reviewing it as it should be reviewed does not make for a poor professional critic.  Though the one critic that already posted is just as bad as all the "zeros" who haven't even bought the game or are giving it reviews because they have networking problems.

Every single AAA game receives conveniently positive ratings.

Most reviews that appear on the same day (when it's strictly an online game) are subject to us quirking our eyebrows.  Though I must ask, do you even read in full all the reviews that professional critics write?  If I write a scholarly paper about a theory I have in the scientific community, would you take me for my word or read what I have to say before forming your own opinion?  An article that is written well, has shown ample indication that they have played the game, and detailed positives and negatives along with their rating certainly do so in a matter most befitting their station.

Bad games get bad reviews, and more often than not "AAA" titles have the budget to make good games.  This is always subject to one's own opinions.  The scrutiny that MMOs get in general is not in particular about it being a bad game, but being worth a monthly fee.  Thus, these games typically get hundreds of thousands of people subscribed who view it is worth it.  Those games which are truly bad?  FFXIV -- Which was also a AAA release and got horrible reviews (because it -was- a bad game) -- did not manage to reach those levels.  In fact it is restructuring its entire game based on bad reviews given by critics.

Originally posted by Foomerang

Gw2 fanboys making alt accounts and bash wow. Then proclaim on their main account that they "never troll other game forums". Happened yesterday a couple times and at least once again today...

Haha, true!!!

Wonder how many "alts" that Miss Aero. has btw.....

Actually, put up your computer at Ultra settings and go into to Pandaria with a positive attitude and you'll be truly amazed!! And this comes from a person who was tired of WoW and looked forward to WAR, LOTRO, Vanguard, SWTOR and.... yes, gw2 aswell but......

......but almost like U2 once sang; I still haven't found what I'm looking for  (though, my re-subscription to WoW is NOT a dissapointment so far, not at all)

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Originally posted by Karteli
Blizzard pissed all over it's loyal fanbase when it merged with Activision sometime ago.

Cataclysm was just a cheap expansion aimed at attracting younger players, while somehow trying retaining older veterans. It really missed the mark with retaining veterans, and the end result is mostly people that play WoW but don't really want to get involved too much. Some veterans + new younger gamers. EPIX EVERYWHERE YAY FOR WOW!

Losing a slew of hardcore + addicts cost this game dearly with the lackluster expansion known as Cataclysm. Want a dungeon like BRS, LBRS/UBRS? Want a raid locale like MC, Karazan, Ulduarr? Keep looking, the original devs for these places either quit or are working on Titan, leaving the "B" team to do WoW (since mid WotLK).

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You do realise that Activision has nothing to do with Blizzard, but rather with Vivendi? You do know that both Activision and Blizzard are publishers(also their own game developers) that share the revenue for Vivendi? The Activision-Blizzard is just showing off the numbers of the revenue they make in the quartals and has nothing to do with Activision interfering into Blizzard's work right?

For more detailed explanation read this article: http://wow.joystiq.com/2009/04/12/activision-blizzard-is-not-blizzard/

And to your second passage, yes, it's their B team working on WoW now, not their main team, because the main team was transfered to work on the project code named "Titan".

OT; Even tho I have no right to give a criticism for their expansion to the game, but most of the user reviews tend to be very biased, written in anger because of server instabillity which will be fix and some for the hate, but there are other factor I can't even point out, or I don't know them.

However, I did enjoy through all their expansions and I find WotLK to be the best to my liking. Also, mosst of the people who complain about difficulty, don't you think you've learned or mastered the game and that back in that vanilla/tbc WoW time you were still new to the concept of the raiding and such things?

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Originally posted by drakes821

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Originally posted by AdamTM

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Originally posted by drakes821 Almost any big mainstream AAA game that is released will get panned on Metacritic on the first couple of days for some reason. My theory is all the people who actually bought the game are playing it while only childish trolls pop on there and post their horrible scores for something they don't play. Give it a month and the score will more acurately represent the quality of the game. And I don't like or dislike WoW, I've never really played it, this opinion is just based off of watching mulitple metacritic scores at launch.

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Actually thats something I never observed. What I observed is a lot of low scores if the game has game-breaking or technical flaws at launch. The last AAA games released in the last two months had green user reviews from the go, even the MMOs.

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I suppose it's hard to communicate but I was refering to AAA games that have a lot of hate centered around them.

For example CoD was smashed on metecritic at launch just because so many people seem to hate the series, WoW is the same way in the MMO world to an extent, a lot of haters for no real reason.

I do agree though games with glitches at launch do get panned as well, at least that's what happened to Diablo 3 at launch.

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I must agree with Drakes821, not only we can see hate towards AAA games, we can also see this kind of hate for no obvious reason in the movie, music and mobile industry. The fans and haters look really childlish and I barely see a point in what's there to argue, do they feel superior or inferior; or they just want be in the "cool" crowd that hates that one(or more) thing(s) and feel like they are not alone? I really don't see a point for that kind of behaviours, it even leads me to the Thomas Hobbes experiment, where people are put in a state of nature.

Also, as I said in my first passage, most of those critics tend to be very, very biased with closed mind and neglect or just don't want to point out the good things, or just make a two-part review where they can cover the good and bad things about that game.
In the part 1 review they will review the good things and point what they find interesting, innovative, changing or such things, while in their part 2 review what they don't like, what should be changed or improved and etc; just don't be biased and try to write a review with open mind, not closed one, that is the most important thing.

However, judged on those reviews, barely any of them had constructive criticism and those numbers were give just because there are pandas, pet battles and server issues which will be resolved.

EDIT; I'd kindly ask if some of the forum mods can delete my post, because 'twas a mistake. I tried to edit this one and somehow reposted what I wanted to say in this post, so please delete my post below this one.
Thanks in advance! :)

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Double post, delete this one please.

Originally posted by Ouriel

 

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Originally posted by Karteli
Blizzard pissed all over it's loyal fanbase when it merged with Activision sometime ago.

 

Cataclysm was just a cheap expansion aimed at attracting younger players, while somehow trying retaining older veterans. It really missed the mark with retaining veterans, and the end result is mostly people that play WoW but don't really want to get involved too much. Some veterans + new younger gamers. EPIX EVERYWHERE YAY FOR WOW!

Losing a slew of hardcore + addicts cost this game dearly with the lackluster expansion known as Cataclysm. Want a dungeon like BRS, LBRS/UBRS? Want a raid locale like MC, Karazan, Ulduarr? Keep looking, the original devs for these places either quit or are working on Titan, leaving the "B" team to do WoW (since mid WotLK).

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You do realise that Activision has nothing to do with Blizzard, but rather with Vivendi? You do know that both Activision and Blizzard are publishers(also their own game developers) that share the revenue for Vivendi? The Activision-Blizzard is just showing off the numbers of the revenue they make in the quartals and has nothing to do with Activision interfering into Blizzard's work right?

For more detailed explanation read this article: http://wow.joystiq.com/2009/04/12/activision-blizzard-is-not-blizzard/

 

And to your second passage, yes, it's their B team working on WoW now, not their main team, because the main team was transfered to work on the project code named "Titan".

What I do realize is that you are just repeating what you have read and not what you have felt.  Gather your inner emotions and tell me that there has been no change in game quality since Activision got involved.  IF you were a WoW player 2004-2009, tell me this.  Vivendi was always around, they are not part of the equation in the quality degredation we've seen.

But since Vivendi's main source of income is WoW, adding Activision only added more mouths to feed.  Quality went down, and cash shop items went in.  All around 2009.  Zing!

Originally posted by Ren128

Seems like most scores are either very low (0-2) or very high (8-10) with hardly anything in-between, meaning MoP polarised people. 

MoP didn't polarize people. Gamer's in general are very polarized in their views. Everything is either the next [game] killer or "FAIL"

It's been really noticable the past year or so, and I don't think that most gamers realize the more they do that the more they genuinely make their feedback useless and, as such, irrelevant.

Originally posted by Panther2103
Metacritic user scores are garbage. No way does a game deserve a 0. Which if you look, you see a majority of the negative reviews are 0. Most of them are saying it's a kids game and are mad about some change they made to the game. Which even then a change to a system that they didn't like doesn't auto make a score 0. It isn't worth it to even look at this, considering trolls and people who are upset about a gameplay change are going to just try to lower the score by any means possible.

trolls are countered by fanboys, so if the game has alot of scored reviews on meta, you can figure the liars cancle each other out, and then the game still scores 3/10, sounds about right considering the plot of MoP follows the kung fu panda movies word for word..... and they werent that good.

Originally posted by neorandom

Originally posted by Panther2103
Metacritic user scores are garbage. No way does a game deserve a 0. Which if you look, you see a majority of the negative reviews are 0. Most of them are saying it's a kids game and are mad about some change they made to the game. Which even then a change to a system that they didn't like doesn't auto make a score 0. It isn't worth it to even look at this, considering trolls and people who are upset about a gameplay change are going to just try to lower the score by any means possible.

trolls are countered by fanboys, so if the game has alot of scored reviews on meta, you can figure the liars cancle each other out, and then the game still scores 3/10, sounds about right considering the plot of MoP follows the kung fu panda movies word for word..... and they werent that good.

Which one do you fall under?  The "liar" or "The Judge by what others tell you without playing it" category?

Either way, you have my pity good sir.