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  Yamota

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There's a beast within every man that stirs when you put a sword in his hand

 
9/24/12 5:31:00 PM#1

What MMORPG would you like to ressurect? http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/09/24/leaderboard-mmo-most-worthy-of-resurrection/#continued

Not surprisingly, SWG is head and shoulders above all other games. Most likely because most people reject it's "replacement" SW:TOR.

  grimal

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9/24/12 5:33:45 PM#2
Where were all these people when the game was bleeding subs?

Release a game with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting a momentious self perpetuating playerbase people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and their friends and everyone else plays anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality... but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing as it is quality, if not more so. - Derros

  Myria

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9/24/12 5:53:16 PM#3
Originally posted by grimal
Where were all these people when the game was bleeding subs?

Exactly this.

All of the manufactured rage towards ToR over SWG shutting down is, frankly, laughable. SWG had been on life support for an eternity, in MMO terms, long before ToR was a glint in a dev's eye. Why SOE didn't shut it down years ago is something of a mystery.

If a tenth of those professing their love for SWG had actually been playing the game things would have been quite different. Instead SWG is covered in rose coloured bovine excrement that post-hoc fans seem never to tire of flinging.

  Yakamomoto

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9/24/12 5:56:54 PM#4

SWG with 2012 graphics and some bugs ironed out would be the best thing since sliced bread. 

too good to be true. 

  cosy

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9/24/12 8:07:03 PM#5
SWG gets my vote but the old SWG

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  RefMinor

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9/24/12 8:10:00 PM#6
Originally posted by grimal
Where were all these people when the game was bleeding subs?

I think the bulk left around the time of the great dumbing down.

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  Vhaln

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9/24/12 8:13:16 PM#7
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by grimal
Where were all these people when the game was bleeding subs?

I think the bulk left around the time of the great dumbing down.

That is the glaring issue with that poll.  Probably need to differentiate between the two different versions of SWG.  Or clearly state that ressurection would only be as it was, when it was shut down.  Poll could be very misleading, otherwise.

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  solarine

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9/24/12 8:15:57 PM#8

If I was to answer just in terms of how much I liked the game back then, it'd be Asheron's Call 2 for me by a mile.

 

  Lazzaro

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9/24/12 8:18:23 PM#9


Originally posted by Yakamomoto
SWG with 2012 graphics and some bugs ironed out would be the best thing since sliced bread. 

too good to be true. 


Yes, yes it would.

  VirusDancer

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9/24/12 8:23:23 PM#10
It's interesting how many CoH write-in votes there were...

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  Purutzil

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If you see no good or you see no bad in a game, chances are you are bias.

9/24/12 8:24:43 PM#11

I think most people judge it as not only being a ressurection, but a general revamp of the game as well. Of those games, SWG actually has some good stuff going for it, even only poorly executed. It has (IMO) the best potential if resurrected and revamped in the same style.

 

Despite this, my main interest would be the matrix online. It provides such a unique environment, the issue is I think it was just done incorrectly. Using technology available today and over-halling the game and keep a similiar concept. It has a more unique take that just wasn't exploited all that well. In this regards it falls flat compared to SWG since at least that game had some of those ideas in place, even if some weren't to well done.

  Xiaoki

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9/24/12 10:37:45 PM#12


Originally posted by RefMinor

Originally posted by grimal Where were all these people when the game was bleeding subs?
I think the bulk left around the time of the great dumbing down.


The bulk of what was left maybe.


SWG was bleeding subs since day 1.


Bugs galore, no balance and terrible developers will do that.

  Tardcore

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9/24/12 10:42:39 PM#13
Originally posted by grimal
Where were all these people when the game was bleeding subs?

Probably right here (or on a similar site) calling the game shyte. I know I was.

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  IG-88

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9/24/12 10:48:52 PM#14

Yea yea, according to the visitors of this site EVERY game is a "FAIL!!!" even if its still in beta.

 

  dustyhayes

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9/24/12 11:59:41 PM#15
Originally posted by Vhaln
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by grimal
Where were all these people when the game was bleeding subs?

I think the bulk left around the time of the great dumbing down.

That is the glaring issue with that poll.  Probably need to differentiate between the two different versions of SWG.  Or clearly state that ressurection would only be as it was, when it was shut down.  Poll could be very misleading, otherwise.

This^

Most of those who voted for SWG were probably voting of pre-NGE, but then we'll never know poll should be clear  =/

  Konfess

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9/25/12 1:16:09 AM#16
MxO & SWG. I had 5 subs for 4 years, so that is where I was.

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  Hokie

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Hey Devs, just so you know. The more you give us to play with, the more we play.

9/25/12 1:23:33 AM#17

I think there is a version of SWG that most people are talking about and its pre-NGE.

 

And SWG was bleeding subs because SOE fucked the game up to the point that no one new wanted to play it, and no one who had been playing it still wanted to.

 

And I agree a much cleaned-up SWG (pre-NGE) would be...would be...I cant speak. Sorry. Im too emotional just thinking about it, sorry.

*deep breath*

*deep breath*

Awesome. It would be awesome.

  Hokie

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Hey Devs, just so you know. The more you give us to play with, the more we play.

9/25/12 1:25:23 AM#18
Originally posted by Tardcore
Originally posted by grimal
Where were all these people when the game was bleeding subs?

Probably right here (or on a similar site) calling the game shyte. I know I was.

Yeah, but dont you call every game shit?

  Torvaldr

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9/25/12 2:55:29 AM#19
Originally posted by Vhaln
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by grimal
Where were all these people when the game was bleeding subs?

I think the bulk left around the time of the great dumbing down.

That is the glaring issue with that poll.  Probably need to differentiate between the two different versions of SWG.  Or clearly state that ressurection would only be as it was, when it was shut down.  Poll could be very misleading, otherwise.

That's almost why all those games are on that list.  They all had something about them that drove people away.  I think people like to lament or cheer for something they don't truly have to support.  It's like they get all the satisfaction of being indignant and right, but none of the burden of having to put their money where their mouth is.

If there was an option I would have voted "none of the above".  Most games out now of any flavor and type are better than most of those put together.

  someforumguy

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9/25/12 3:03:03 AM#20
Originally posted by grimal
Where were all these people when the game was bleeding subs?

I was playing it on and off for years untill they announced that it was going to be shutdown later that year. Then all incentive was gone to play it ever again. After trying SWTOR I started to miss SWG again.

I have been critizising SWG all those years, because it had so many bugs.  NGE later on shaped to be quite cool in terms of features (crazy amount of different activities and mechanics), but it also had one the worst ground combat systems I ever played in a game. If preNGE combat could be combined with late NGE features, it wouldve been awesome.

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