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  Nitre

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Joined: 9/22/12
Posts: 44

9/24/12 12:22:11 PM#21
Originally posted by evilastro

This game is definitely the spiritual successor to Diablo 2.

Diablo 3 was an embarrassment.

in every damn thread u are hating blizzard games just check his post history lol its ridiculous how obnvious u are dude.

 

you are hating on D3 in this one..and on WoW on several occasions in other threads. stop baiting ppl to get down on your level !

 

 

 

  fenistil

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9/24/12 12:27:19 PM#22
Much better than D3.
  Nitre

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9/24/12 12:28:57 PM#23
i suppose most ppl here did never play D3 here so they just talk along..or they played beta until the boss and didnt like it..lol..that was tutorial guys.
  User Deleted
9/24/12 12:29:31 PM#24
Originally posted by Nitre
Originally posted by evilastro

This game is definitely the spiritual successor to Diablo 2.

Diablo 3 was an embarrassment.

in every damn thread u are hating blizzard games just check his post history lol its ridiculous how obnvious u are dude.

 

you are hating on D3 in this one..and on WoW on several occasions in other threads. stop baiting ppl to get down on your level !

 

Says the person with 34 posts all praising Blizzard and hating on GW2.

I hate on both D3 and WoW because they are both terrible games, which are the bane of their respective genres.

  GoldenArrow

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9/24/12 12:29:46 PM#25

TL2 has a working loot system.

Which is the key system in loot hunting games.

Can't say the same about D3.

 
  Yohanu

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Joined: 7/23/09
Posts: 217

9/24/12 12:32:33 PM#26
Seems Blizzard is starting to fall. While i enjoy Torchlight 2, i still think Path of Exile deserves more recognition though, it's a worthy contender and in my opinion far superior to any other "Diablo-clone" out there when it comes to game mechanics and design.
  Darklotus79

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Joined: 9/09/12
Posts: 61

9/24/12 12:40:24 PM#27

Its just flat out good old fun ARPG. Level 26 (outlander) now. My only complaints so far is all the useless loot that drops. Also the fact that you do level fast which I fear the end. I dont want it to end because i'm having so much fun.

TL2 is what it is... a fun game worth $20! 

D3 is a good game also , but  in my op TL2 is so much funner to play. 

Path Of Exile has potential for sure..The whole gemming thing through me for a loop , and the massive skill tree. Only got to try it for a few hours last weekend. 

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  lizardbones

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9/24/12 12:43:40 PM#28


Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by Nitre

Originally posted by evilastro This game is definitely the spiritual successor to Diablo 2. Diablo 3 was an embarrassment.
in every damn thread u are hating blizzard games just check his post history lol its ridiculous how obnvious u are dude.   you are hating on D3 in this one..and on WoW on several occasions in other threads. stop baiting ppl to get down on your level !  
Says the person with 34 posts all praising Blizzard and hating on GW2.

I hate on both D3 and WoW because they are both terrible games, which are the bane of their respective genres.




Just would like to point out that it's kind of interesting watching the Pot and the Kettle meet each other. Anyway...

The one thing that TL2 if far superior in is having places to go after release. Blizzard doesn't have a lot of wiggle room in how they work the game from here on out. Getting past that wall to finish Act 3 or 4 in whatever the third or fourth mode is without a momentous grind, visits to the auction house or both will not go away. Out of all the people playing I know playing D3 on a regular basis, only 1 has stuck with it to get past that wall. Everyone else went on to something else, mostly GW2.

TL2 could add an invisible wall that required grind, or they could take one out and it would be fine because they don't have a philosophical hard line that they can't cross. Want to respec your character? Just wait for the modding kit to be released. That will be the first mod that gets made. They're even considering private, closed servers where the players run things and decide what the rules are. I would not be surprised if someone came up with a way to run an MMORPG from TL2's code. I would be even more surprised if it made it past the tech demo stage, but that's not the point.

TL2 brings to the table the ability to choose how you want to play after you purchase the game. D3 gives you the ability to choose whether you want to buy the game, but after that you play Blizzard's way.

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  Denambren

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Joined: 1/03/08
Posts: 318

9/24/12 12:49:07 PM#29
Originally posted by GoldenArrow

TL2 has a working loot system.

Which is the key system in loot hunting games.

Can't say the same about D3.

 

Yeah, that's the real winner quote there. Even if TL2 was deemed an inferior game engine than D3, it actually has a working loot system, of which I won't get into the details when compared to D3, but anyone who has read anything about the major critisms of D3 understands why it was a failure and why any action RPG with actual loot drops will automatically be superior.

 

D3's loot table was meant to drop for millions of players while TL2's loot table drops loot for a single person playing through the game.

  fenistil

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Joined: 9/22/11
Posts: 3016

9/24/12 12:55:50 PM#30
Originally posted by Nitre
i suppose most ppl here did never play D3 here so they just talk along..or they played beta until the boss and didnt like it..lol..that was tutorial guys.

While there might be some trolls as well you need to realize that people might judge things diffrently than you.

Just because for you Diablo 3 is absolutely superior game and no discussion that does not mean that it will be same for others. 

Torchlight II is just better.   Mechanics, classes, combat, real randomization of game world, itemization - all those much better than Diablo 3.   Animations are worse but not by much. 

Graphics are worse, but at least Runic Games have sticked to their design. It is cartoony and I don't like it, but they never pretended to be difftent.

Diablo 3 graphics quality, textures are better but Diablo 3 while supposedly dark & grimmy it actually are silly.  Blizzard either intentionally or not intentionally made Diablo 3 vibe almost embarassing and silly.   Game not feeling dark & dangerous at all, Diablo itself looking like Zerg unit from Starcraft and idiotic higher level armors and things like Berserker Dragon Ball Z Super Sayain mode.

Not to meniotn Rmah and always online for single player.

 

No seriously Torchlight II is just better game overall and it is also only 20$ vs 60$ for Diablo 3.

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

9/24/12 1:11:20 PM#31
Golden:
Exactly. Tl2 wasn't designed to make as much money as possible off of cuts from a real money auction house
  User Deleted
9/24/12 1:15:28 PM#32
totally like this game .awesome 
  sgel

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Joined: 7/11/08
Posts: 1085

I've got this creature on my back.. it just wont let go.

9/24/12 1:16:04 PM#33

I tried liking D3 but honestly couldn't stand it... 

Thoroughly enjoyed the T2 beta and currently playing through the release game.

I would highly recommend it if you like traditional hack and slash fun.

..Cake..

  Ghavrigg

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Joined: 8/10/12
Posts: 731

9/24/12 1:18:17 PM#34

I agree 100% with this article! TL2 is absolutely amazing. I love the stat points, the skill system, the loot, enchanting and socket systems. Also, man, having that pet to run back to town to sell and pick up items for you is such a time saver and really detracts from the frequent downtime.

I think they should have added just a tiny bit more character customization at the start, especially for the pets, but that's just nitpicking.

Blizzard is incapable of fixing their train wreck, so having an alternative that is more Diablo than D3 will ever be is very nice.

Also, the music was created by the guy who did the music from D1/2, which is very noticeable. Very eery at times, very awesome always.

  laserit

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9/24/12 1:20:57 PM#35
Originally posted by Nitre
i suppose most ppl here did never play D3 here so they just talk along..or they played beta until the boss and didnt like it..lol..that was tutorial guys.

I played it through and it was one of the most disapointing game I've ever played and what made it the most disapointing game I ever played is because the tripe that is D3 was made by Blizzard

Just another company destroyed by corporate greed.

 

"If you make an ass out of yourself, there will always be someone to ride you." - Bruce Lee

  kishe

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Posts: 1972

firefighter lvl90

9/24/12 1:45:58 PM#36

Torchlight 2 was made by same guys as Diablo 2

 

nuff said!

  Burntvet

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Joined: 11/16/07
Posts: 2800

9/24/12 1:46:54 PM#37
Originally posted by fenistil
Originally posted by Nitre
i suppose most ppl here did never play D3 here so they just talk along..or they played beta until the boss and didnt like it..lol..that was tutorial guys.
/snip

Torchlight II is just better.   Mechanics, classes, combat, real randomization of game world, itemization - all those much better than Diablo 3.   Animations are worse but not by much. 

Graphics are worse, but at least Runic Games have sticked to their design. It is cartoony and I don't like it, but they never pretended to be difftent.

Diablo 3 graphics quality, textures are better but Diablo 3 while supposedly dark & grimmy it actually are silly.  Blizzard either intentionally or not intentionally made Diablo 3 vibe almost embarassing and silly.   Game not feeling dark & dangerous at all, Diablo itself looking like Zerg unit from Starcraft and idiotic higher level armors and things like Berserker Dragon Ball Z Super Sayain mode.

Not to meniotn Rmah and always online for single player.

 

No seriously Torchlight II is just better game overall and it is also only 20$ vs 60$ for Diablo 3.

Especially these bits.

For me at least, TL2 has just about all of the "pluses" of D3 and many fewer of the minuses.

+ Better toon customization with atts/skill selection, random maps, No RMAH, no online only for SP, slightly better gear system, significantly lower price. (Oh, and LAN play, that is something I actually use)

D3 had marginally better graphics, but that's it.

Bottom line is I am happy with my TL2 purchase, and very much not with my purchase of D3 (or 1/5 purchase of D3 at least - for games of "dubious quality" I split a single copy with some friends and we go over to someone's place on the weekend and try it out, beats everyone buying a coaster.)

 

  gimmesome

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Posts: 368

9/24/12 2:04:19 PM#38

Yeah...  I'm an oldschool D2 fan -  Bought D3 when it launched,  I raged for 2-3 weeks over how bad it was.    I downloaded TL2 and played all weekend.   I'm at work right now and can't stop thinking about how much I want to go home and play some more.  

 

TL 2 is everything D3 should have been.   It's sad that they achieved that with a fraction of the budget and manpower.   I'm not complaining, though.   $20 got me a fantastic game.  

Way more adventure and charm and not that feeling of "forced fun" whatsoever.    

Blizzard fracking sucks now.    

  User Deleted
9/24/12 2:13:26 PM#39
D3 is better in every way other than itemization and box price.
  cybersrs

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9/24/12 2:27:27 PM#40

If TL2 is going to compete against D3, they should at least do equal graphics quality or better.

... and I know that gameplay > graphics. Maybe it is just me tired to see new games releases with not so good graphics.

We are in 2012 (meaning we have better tools, game engine, computer, etc).

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