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Lathander81
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Joined: 2/06/09
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9/24/12 12:26:03 AM#81
I think we all knew that SW was a niche game market just like Startrek. I think it was a success as long as they are making a profit.
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9/24/12 6:00:45 AM#82
I would call Rift or Eve more of a success than this game.
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9/24/12 6:53:16 AM#83
Originally posted by ZigZags No. Based on EA's own statement that SWTOR needed 1M (long term) subs to "make a profit but nothing to write home about" EA haven't recovered there investment. (500k subs was to make a profit at the operating level). And, based on what EA reported, the highest sub number was just about half of 1.7M - OR 850k. So no profit. Boxes cost money to produce and distribute and retailers take a very large % of the sale price; for AoC Funcom reported just over 20%; for SWTOR analysts suggested $60M profit on the initial 2M sales - a far higher % as some of the sales were via Origin. A long way short of what the game cost however - especially factoring in a % of the cost of buying Bioware. |
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9/24/12 7:31:44 AM#84
I'm not sure how much of a profit they actually made since they spent $300-500 million and sold 2+ million copies with ~300K concurrent users at launch, don't forget a good chunk of that profit goes to Lucas Arts and EA so.... however I suck at math so I'm not going into that department. |
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9/24/12 9:48:55 AM#85
the real success will come with the first expansion, then it will be real StarWars with more to do.. pazzaak, swoop racing, housing, space combat..
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9/24/12 3:27:46 PM#86
Originally posted by Paddyspub Financially? Yes. Sub wise? No. Even with SWTOR being "dead", it still has more sub than these 2 games. I've played all 3 of them btw. I have Rift on my machine atm since I return to it every few months and am waiting for Storm Legion. I've played SWTOR the longest of the 3 because I found it more entertaining. It's just a matter of taste, really. |
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9/24/12 3:34:58 PM#87
Agree about SWTOR having more subs than Rift - and EVE at this moment in time. If SWTOR had remained sub based the comparison with EVE might have gotten interesting. Of course come the end of the year SWTOR will have fewer subs. Going F2P is a risk; in their own presentations EA have said that most people who play F2P games play for free and they rely on hooking whales to bring in the money - whales apparently being the term for people who get hooked. Does SWTOR have the ability to keep people hooked enough so they want to fork out money though .... |
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9/24/12 4:24:09 PM#88
There's honestly nothing here in the OP that enables any sort of discussion. No reasons, no substantiated points, nothing. Therefore it's kind of a bait.
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