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  Dragonantis

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9/23/12 5:27:34 AM#61

Its like the screams of thousand's of players were suddenly silenced...

Oh the servers lagged and crashed XD

  Wicoa

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OP  9/23/12 5:36:01 AM#62
Originally posted by Dragonantis

Its like the screams of thousand's of players were suddenly silenced...

Oh the servers lagged and crashed XD

Bwaha that is actually funny :P but also true

  lizardbones

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I've become dependent upon spell check. My apologies for stupid grammatical errors.

9/23/12 7:36:19 AM#63


Originally posted by Wicoa
People on pve realms are now being flagged for pvp.

The pictures below is what MOP dailies will be like soon.  The second picture is where the current main daily quest area is.

Someone else wrote this:

http://i46.tinypic.com/34xnzhl.jpghttp://i46.tinypic.com/2gtyw3o.jpg(i lagged out shortly after taking these pictures)This aint even world pvp, this just ruins the game.If you don't have state of the art internet your doomed for life.Beeing unable to do dailies without a 40-man raid makes no sense to me.Or beeing a level 58 getting ganked for 2 hours before reaching Thrallmar.*thumbs up*                              




How are the players being flagged for PvP?

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  coretex666

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9/23/12 8:06:28 AM#64

I think it is a good feature.

I consider your post to be a little exaggerated. I mean people are aware of the fact that they may not like the product they are buying.

I would understand the warning if there was a possibility that you can be scammed or something like that.

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  Moodsor

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9/23/12 8:28:18 AM#65
Originally posted by lizardbones

 


Originally posted by Wicoa
People on pve realms are now being flagged for pvp.

 

The pictures below is what MOP dailies will be like soon.  The second picture is where the current main daily quest area is.

Someone else wrote this:

http://i46.tinypic.com/34xnzhl.jpghttp://i46.tinypic.com/2gtyw3o.jpg(i lagged out shortly after taking these pictures)This aint even world pvp, this just ruins the game.If you don't have state of the art internet your doomed for life.Beeing unable to do dailies without a 40-man raid makes no sense to me.Or beeing a level 58 getting ganked for 2 hours before reaching Thrallmar.*thumbs up*                              




How are the players being flagged for PvP?

 

They arent he's just exaggerating, first off CRZ only matches the same servertype, im on a PvE server, and we are only matched with other PvE servers.

2nd of all CRZ is not used in Pandaria, so the whole scare scenario with Pandaria dailies is not valid.

  eldaris

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9/23/12 8:30:14 AM#66

It seems lot of players got used to leveling in an empty world , having all the resources for themselves.Sorry but why play mmos if you want an empty world around you, skyrim has a much better world than any mmos.I played a little yesterday in wotlk areas lving a character and it was great seeing players around in a zone which would have been mostly empty before cross realm zones.Sure it needs some balancing regarding rare spawns and ore/herbs spawn rate,maybe even make auction house shared for the players which share the cross realm zones but in the end any feature making the world full of players again is good.
I am curious - the players complaining about cross realm zones are the same which complained about the zombie event and made blizz to start doing these awful boring events for cataclysm and mop ?

  lizardbones

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I've become dependent upon spell check. My apologies for stupid grammatical errors.

9/23/12 8:34:36 AM#67


Originally posted by Nemorak

Originally posted by lizardbones  

Originally posted by Wicoa People on pve realms are now being flagged for pvp.   The pictures below is what MOP dailies will be like soon.  The second picture is where the current main daily quest area is. Someone else wrote this: http://i46.tinypic.com/34xnzhl.jpghttp://i46.tinypic.com/2gtyw3o.jpg(i lagged out shortly after taking these pictures)This aint even world pvp, this just ruins the game.If you don't have state of the art internet your doomed for life.Beeing unable to do dailies without a 40-man raid makes no sense to me.Or beeing a level 58 getting ganked for 2 hours before reaching Thrallmar.*thumbs up*                              
How are the players being flagged for PvP?  
They arent he's just exaggerating, first off CRZ only matches the same servertype, im on a PvE server, and we are only matched with other PvE servers.

2nd of all CRZ is not used in Pandaria, so the whole scare scenario with Pandaria dailies is not valid.




That's what I was wondering. There are scenarios where you can get flagged for PvP, but most of the exploits have been fixed. Hitting a flagged mob or NPC is just something you're supposed to be aware of when playing on a PvE server. Also, open world PvP around cross faction daily quest hubs isn't anything new either. That's been around since the Isle of Quel Danas (however you spell it).

Seems like the complaints stem a lot more from playing with a bunch of players, not from any actual issues with CRZ. The game is designed with the idea of there being other people around, even if you can do nearly everything alone.

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  lizardbones

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I've become dependent upon spell check. My apologies for stupid grammatical errors.

9/23/12 8:37:02 AM#68


Originally posted by eldaris
It seems lot of players got used to leveling in an empty world , having all the resources for themselves.Sorry but why play mmos if you want an empty world around you, skyrim has a much better world than any mmos.I played a little yesterday in wotlk areas lving a character and it was great seeing players around in a zone which would have been mostly empty before cross realm zones.Sure it needs some balancing regarding rare spawns and ore/herbs spawn rate,maybe even make auction house shared for the players which share the cross realm zones but in the end any feature making the world full of players again is good.
I am curious - the players complaining about cross realm zones are the same which complained about the zombie event and made blizz to start doing these awful boring events for cataclysm and mop ?



The events leading up to WotLK were some of the best things about playing WoW. It really got everyone excited about the expansion. Even the PvE world events where you had to stop the expansion of the Lich King's forces were cool. I am suddenly realizing that those events were a precursor to the events in Rift. Huh.

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  timeraider

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9/23/12 8:38:56 AM#69

At one hand.. awesome, more groupquesting, teamwork and stuff!

At other hand.. yeey people stealing my kills, stealing my miningspots  and making sure i cant do the things i want

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  eldaris

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9/23/12 9:00:35 AM#70


Originally posted by lizardbones

The events leading up to WotLK were some of the best things about playing WoW. It really got everyone excited about the expansion. Even the PvE world events where you had to stop the expansion of the Lich King's forces were cool. I am suddenly realizing that those events were a precursor to the events in Rift. Huh.

Yes,I agree that the events before wotlk were the best but then you had lot of players complaining zombies don't allow them to lv ,quest etc which sounds exactly as some of arguments players use against crz .Having to compete for resources ,kills is normal in an open world mmo and I am not sure gw2 solution is the best.Yes,it takes out the possibility of some players to be jerks but also it don't let you see the true colors of a player by the actions of him/her in game since developers took out any possibilities of conflict.

  Bootez

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9/23/12 9:07:57 AM#71
Crz is fine, l2p.
  Nadia

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9/23/12 10:11:38 AM#72
Originally posted by timeraider

At one hand.. awesome, more groupquesting, teamwork and stuff!

At other hand.. yeey people stealing my kills, stealing my miningspots  and making sure i cant do the things i want

since patch 4.3  (Nov 29 2011)

Blizzard nerfed most group quests to be solo player under 80

 

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_4.3.0

Many Group quests in Outland and Northrend have been re-tuned to allow players to complete them solo. They are no longer labeled as Group quests.

 

 

  Wicoa

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OP  9/23/12 10:14:19 AM#73
Originally posted by Nemorak
Originally posted by lizardbones

 


Originally posted by Wicoa
People on pve realms are now being flagged for pvp.

 

The pictures below is what MOP dailies will be like soon.  The second picture is where the current main daily quest area is.

Someone else wrote this:

http://i46.tinypic.com/34xnzhl.jpghttp://i46.tinypic.com/2gtyw3o.jpg(i lagged out shortly after taking these pictures)This aint even world pvp, this just ruins the game.If you don't have state of the art internet your doomed for life.Beeing unable to do dailies without a 40-man raid makes no sense to me.Or beeing a level 58 getting ganked for 2 hours before reaching Thrallmar.*thumbs up*                              




How are the players being flagged for PvP?

 

They arent he's just exaggerating, first off CRZ only matches the same servertype, im on a PvE server, and we are only matched with other PvE servers.

2nd of all CRZ is not used in Pandaria, so the whole scare scenario with Pandaria dailies is not valid.

Yes it is go read up on it, it is planned for release for pandaria after the expansion launches.  CRZ is being rolled out into everything.  Take a look up at the picture of the current expansion in the current capped level dailies area.

Also I am not exaggerating pvp flagging of pve players is happening and is true. Possibly due to a buggy system but I am not lying.

 

  Moodsor

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9/23/12 11:11:20 AM#74
Originally posted by Wicoa
Originally posted by Nemorak
Originally posted by lizardbones

 


Originally posted by Wicoa
People on pve realms are now being flagged for pvp.

 

The pictures below is what MOP dailies will be like soon.  The second picture is where the current main daily quest area is.

Someone else wrote this:

http://i46.tinypic.com/34xnzhl.jpghttp://i46.tinypic.com/2gtyw3o.jpg(i lagged out shortly after taking these pictures)This aint even world pvp, this just ruins the game.If you don't have state of the art internet your doomed for life.Beeing unable to do dailies without a 40-man raid makes no sense to me.Or beeing a level 58 getting ganked for 2 hours before reaching Thrallmar.*thumbs up*                              




How are the players being flagged for PvP?

 

They arent he's just exaggerating, first off CRZ only matches the same servertype, im on a PvE server, and we are only matched with other PvE servers.

2nd of all CRZ is not used in Pandaria, so the whole scare scenario with Pandaria dailies is not valid.

Yes it is go read up on it, it is planned for release for pandaria after the expansion launches.  CRZ is being rolled out into everything.  Take a look up at the picture of the current expansion in the current capped level dailies area.

Also I am not exaggerating pvp flagging of pve players is happening and is true. Possibly due to a buggy system but I am not lying.

 

"GC Answer: We are not going to enable CRZ for Pandaria zones anytime soon. We will let you invite friends from other realms."

http://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/status/246387077472739328

"Yes. You will see folks from other realms while questing in Pandaria, but they were all invited not assigned by us through CRZ."

http://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/status/246687487198646272

"CRZ is to have life in old zones. There will be plenty of folks in MoP zones."

http://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/status/246691848238804994

Please do your research before putting up scare scenarios on 3rd party websites.

Secondly the only acknowledged PvP flagging "issue" by Blizzard is people stupid enough to attack players that flag themselves, theres not a single acknowledged issue in regards to people being flagged for no reason, theres a very long status post on US forums about this.

  Wicoa

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OP  9/23/12 11:17:00 AM#75

"Anytime Soon"

That is different from it won't happen and the same as It is planned but not yet and probably will be in place a couple of months after pandaria. The evidence shows that it is up and running in the current end game zones and so it will be in pandaria.  They just want the current players through before they open the flood gates.

Considering there are tickets open for entire quest zones having gone missing from players http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5435093743 it is entirely possible that folks are being pvp flagged.

There are so many bugs and quite a bit of lag with this system that its just an terrible situation.

 

  Moodsor

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9/23/12 11:19:17 AM#76
Originally posted by Wicoa

"Anytime Soon"

That is different from it won't happen and the same as It is planned but not yet and probably will be in place a couple of months after pandaria. The evidence shows that it is up and running in the current end game zones and so it will be in pandaria.  They just want the current players through before they open the flood gates.

 

Doesn't change the fact your spreading false information, based on something that has yet to happend. And your making assumptions about what the devs want without having any factual info.

  Wicoa

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OP  9/23/12 11:22:45 AM#77
Originally posted by Nemorak
Originally posted by Wicoa

"Anytime Soon"

That is different from it won't happen and the same as It is planned but not yet and probably will be in place a couple of months after pandaria. The evidence shows that it is up and running in the current end game zones and so it will be in pandaria.  They just want the current players through before they open the flood gates.

 

Doesn't change the fact your spreading false information, based on something that has yet to happend. And your making assumptions about what the devs want without having any factual info.

The facts are there for me because the system is in place for the current endgame zones, live now.  That is enough evidence for me and that he hasn't denied  it will come, he has just said "not anytime soon".

You cannot claim this as fact for your argument that it will not happen and neither can I for mine, what I can claim is that it is currently operating at the top level and he has said and I repeat "not anytime soon" (for pandaria).  Which is totally and utterly different from "it won't be coming".

 

  Moodsor

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9/23/12 11:28:16 AM#78
Originally posted by Wicoa
Originally posted by Nemorak
Originally posted by Wicoa

"Anytime Soon"

That is different from it won't happen and the same as It is planned but not yet and probably will be in place a couple of months after pandaria. The evidence shows that it is up and running in the current end game zones and so it will be in pandaria.  They just want the current players through before they open the flood gates.

 

Doesn't change the fact your spreading false information, based on something that has yet to happend. And your making assumptions about what the devs want without having any factual info.

The facts are there for me because the system is in place for the current endgame zones, live now.  That is enough evidence for me and that he hasn't denied  it will come, he has just said "not anytime soon".

You cannot claim this as fact for your argument that it will happen and neither can I for mine, what I can claim is that it is currently operating at the top level and he has said and I repeat "not anytime soon" (for pandaria).  Which is totally and utterly different from "it won't be coming".

 

So you decided to come to a 3rd party site and complain about something happening in an endgame that wont matter in 24 hours ? to tell people that it will affect MoP dailies while it wont, and to complain about a scenario in MoP thats yet to happend and might never happend?

Makes sense.

  Purutzil

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The Critical Hit Pretzel!

9/23/12 11:30:35 AM#79

Don't worry, I have no plans to ever return this game unless they do some drastic reversal, and even then it wouldn't be likely unless they did something to top rift for me.

Over-all Its a negative change to me. Yes yes, It does make it have more people around, but typically your not going to be interacting much with those people. PvP wise this promotes ganking much better making the experience much harsher for those on low pop with less people to rally for help. Once MoP releases, while I highly doubt it will have the overwhelming drones of the old expansions, its still going to have a lot of people playing so if Cross Realm Zones ARE used there, its going to make things laggy and make it extremely difficult to do any quests at all with mobs being killed before players have a chance to do anything about them.

  Aori

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9/23/12 11:30:39 AM#80
Originally posted by Wicoa
Originally posted by Nemorak
Originally posted by Wicoa

"Anytime Soon"

That is different from it won't happen and the same as It is planned but not yet and probably will be in place a couple of months after pandaria. The evidence shows that it is up and running in the current end game zones and so it will be in pandaria.  They just want the current players through before they open the flood gates.

 

Doesn't change the fact your spreading false information, based on something that has yet to happend. And your making assumptions about what the devs want without having any factual info.

The facts are there for me because the system is in place for the current endgame zones, live now.  That is enough evidence for me and that he hasn't denied  it will come, he has just said "not anytime soon".

You cannot claim this as fact for your argument that it will happen and neither can I for mine, what I can claim is that it is currently operating at the top level and he has said and I repeat "not anytime soon" (for pandaria).  Which is totally and utterly different from "it won't be coming".

 

So you're bashing a system on the basis it may happen eventually.. ok. How about you wait until it does happen then come give your opinion on it.

Either way, the game is going back to how it was.. fighting over nodes, quests and npc's. Sure some people don't like it but guess what I LIKE THE SOCIAL ASPECT OF MMO's.

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