Originally posted by william0532

Originally posted by Jonoku
I knew this was coming....lol the game was/still is a flop.

Not really a  Nostradamus level prediction. Themepark MMO comes out, six months later all content is burned, players leave for next game.

 

Not every mmo can have the luxury of WoW, with millions of fans that have already put years upon years into playing it and refuse to leave. When I quit TOR, I had a couple million credits, augmented warhero hero gear, and almost a set of blackhole crap. I was not attached to the easy ground out gear, and there wasn't any more pve to do, the warzones became static, and only playable when my guild was on, no open world pvp, and nothing as a guild to invest time into or long term goals to achieve. WoW spent years without real competition building all those things up. Its my belief all straight themepark mmo's will hit the same fate no matter what.

 

I do wish SWTOR would go free to play(as long as its nothing like the piece of crap ideas they've been talking about so far), add space, and develop more features(world pvp, guild objectives, like guild halls, open world pvp and actual exploration). Maybe in a couple years I'll go back. I'm sick of dragons and fantasy.

I quit with over a million credits as well.  Credits are worthless though .. unless you want to buy one of those klunky mounts that clip and partially disappear when close to another object or wall.

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by william0532

Originally posted by Jonoku
I knew this was coming....lol the game was/still is a flop.

Not really a  Nostradamus level prediction. Themepark MMO comes out, six months later all content is burned, players leave for next game.

 

Not every mmo can have the luxury of WoW, with millions of fans that have already put years upon years into playing it and refuse to leave. When I quit TOR, I had a couple million credits, augmented warhero hero gear, and almost a set of blackhole crap. I was not attached to the easy ground out gear, and there wasn't any more pve to do, the warzones became static, and only playable when my guild was on, no open world pvp, and nothing as a guild to invest time into or long term goals to achieve. WoW spent years without real competition building all those things up. Its my belief all straight themepark mmo's will hit the same fate no matter what.

 

I do wish SWTOR would go free to play(as long as its nothing like the piece of crap ideas they've been talking about so far), add space, and develop more features(world pvp, guild objectives, like guild halls, open world pvp and actual exploration). Maybe in a couple years I'll go back. I'm sick of dragons and fantasy.

I quit with over a million credits as well.  Credits are worthless though .. unless you want to buy one of those klunky mounts that clip and partially disappear when close to another object or wall.

Lol, I think my low point was after about 15 KP runs and I finally got the stupid little droid pet, and realized that it was worthless, and why was I doing this to myself! My point to the other guy was players don't have to wait anymore for games to fix themselves. WoW wasn't really special, just a decent game, after 6 or more so years grinding, your kind of stuck going back to it, time and time again, cause you've put so much into it. None of these games launched without all the bells and whistles(bells where coming in 1.2, bells would get fixed in 1.3, than whistles where slated for 1.4, but whistles will probably be pushed for fixed bells from 1.3 when bioware realizes they don't ding). Even GW2, I'm kind of starting to see that in six months, I'll be done and looking at the next game on the horizon. Now a days(I've never tried to write now a days, looks ate up?) we have options. If WoW launched today with their original content, but with today's graphics, I'd still be rolling on in six months.

I don't know if any mmo, will ever have that power in the market again(unless all developers minus one quit developing them, so we only have one option for about five years)

Ffs, look at the list of mmo's on this forum, I haven't even heard of about 200 of them.

I'm rooting for Bioware though, I hope 2 years from now, with a staff of about 10, they somehow manage to fix everything, and add all those bells and whistles on their wall of crazy, so I can never see another dragon again. Or at least some other sci fi mmo comes out where I can explore a galaxy and find something new to do every day.(as opposed to standing by the pvp terminal waiting on ques to pop, or solving every stupid raid puzzle for my guild day in and day out!)

Originally posted by Bynt

So I just logged into my server "The Prophecy of the Five" to see how the changes went today.  The experience was very smooth, but I was really surprised at my increased performance.  The game is running soo much better on my computer now with many people around its crazy, really loving this new high-population server technology they rolled out.  Having much higher server populations is a great thing and really makes the world feel alive as you can see people running around everywhere and doing stuff.  Middle of day today on East Coast, all 8 US servers had populations of Standard.  

I used to have a slight delay whenever I tried to pan around with my mouse, that delay is completly gone.  Plus the game runs smoother when racing around on my speeder, Fantastic!  The really neat thing is, my girlfriend and I play in the same room together often, so when we both did a conversation together, her PC would always be delayed or mine would be such that the conversations would be out of sync and it made it difficult to listen.  However, today for hte first time after an hour of testing, every conversation started immediately and ran in sync, Fantastic!  Just wanted to share my stellar experience with this game! 

SWTOR keeps getting better and better all the time in my opinion!

No offence but movie or it didnt happen. And please define what is very smooth for you.

Originally posted by william0532

 

Lol, I think my low point was after about 15 KP runs and I finally got the stupid little droid pet, and realized that it was worthless, and why was I doing this to myself! My point to the other guy was players don't have to wait anymore for games to fix themselves. WoW wasn't really special, just a decent game, after 6 or more so years grinding, your kind of stuck going back to it, time and time again, cause you've put so much into it. None of these games launched without all the bells and whistles(bells where coming in 1.2, bells would get fixed in 1.3, than whistles where slated for 1.4, but whistles will probably be pushed for fixed bells from 1.3 when bioware realizes they don't ding). Even GW2, I'm kind of starting to see that in six months, I'll be done and looking at the next game on the horizon. Now a days(I've never tried to write now a days, looks ate up?) we have options. If WoW launched today with their original content, but with today's graphics, I'd still be rolling on in six months.

 

I don't know if any mmo, will ever have that power in the market again(unless all developers minus one quit developing them, so we only have one option for about five years)

I doubt it will ever happen again either. Players have so many more options now compared to then. I do think the reign of the themepark is coming to an end and that devlopers who want to stay successful in this business will either make a game that is more free and open or just make their next thempark idea a single player game. 

 

Ffs, look at the list of mmo's on this forum, I haven't even heard of about 200 of them.

Me neither and its why I think this  genre will always be a niche one upside single player games. Most gamers are on consoles because you can buy the game and play right away without the issues that plaque PCs. Don't have to worry about upgrading the video card, sound card, memory or anything else just to play a game. 

 

I'm rooting for Bioware though, I hope 2 years from now, with a staff of about 10, they somehow manage to fix everything, and add all those bells and whistles on their wall of crazy, so I can never see another dragon again. Or at least some other sci fi mmo comes out where I can explore a galaxy and find something new to do every day.(as opposed to standing by the pvp terminal waiting on ques to pop, or solving every stupid raid puzzle for my guild day in and day out!)

I'm rooting for them too. I enjoyed myself for the time I was in but it does have the same issues that themparks have with endgame. 

Originally posted by Bynt

So I just logged into my server "The Prophecy of the Five" to see how the changes went today.  The experience was very smooth, but I was really surprised at my increased performance.  The game is running soo much better on my computer now with many people around its crazy, really loving this new high-population server technology they rolled out.  Having much higher server populations is a great thing and really makes the world feel alive as you can see people running around everywhere and doing stuff.  Middle of day today on East Coast, all 8 US servers had populations of Standard.  

I used to have a slight delay whenever I tried to pan around with my mouse, that delay is completly gone.  Plus the game runs smoother when racing around on my speeder, Fantastic!  The really neat thing is, my girlfriend and I play in the same room together often, so when we both did a conversation together, her PC would always be delayed or mine would be such that the conversations would be out of sync and it made it difficult to listen.  However, today for hte first time after an hour of testing, every conversation started immediately and ran in sync, Fantastic!  Just wanted to share my stellar experience with this game! 

SWTOR keeps getting better and better all the time in my opinion!

I know your saying it's running better, and thats awesome. It really should. If Bioware had bought a complete hero engine, instead of an unready prototype, they would have been running alot smoother from the get go.

I'm happy your experience is well, if it every gets a little glitchy or laggy, on SWTOR.com, theres a thread called swtor unleashed, its a file optimization program that the players created to make the game run  better. Bioware's signed off on it. That was the only way I could get my gameplay to run smooth(I don't have a crap machine or anything, but if I have delay, or any lag, I rage, even if its for a second on fleet and doesn't really matter, I just really go insane lol). Glad you enjoy the game, keep pushing the developers to improve their product so people like me can come back to a finished game down the line!