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The Pub at MMORPG.COM  » X-post from Reddit: You are all destroying the MMO genre, and you don't even know why you act the way you do.

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  Ausare

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Joined: 3/23/11
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9/21/12 1:39:58 AM#141
It was a themepark with a quest created by the dm/game designer. The dm had set goals he oushed you towards with an open way of doing it but in the end you would fight that dragon somehow.
  Gishgeron

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9/21/12 2:02:42 AM#142

  I've read the OP.  I looked over some of the posts here.  I don't think i agree with the poster IN the OP, (since the OP was just bringing us this post over from another source).  I cannot agree with the fact that the players are ruining the genre...though I might have agreed years ago.  I think that the OP countered his own point with the games he listed.  I'll try to explain.

  All games have a design structure that governs how the flow of the game is supposed to be for a player.  The reason we love Modern Warfare and not MMO PvP is because of the flow.  Same with why we love doing nothing on Skyrim versus doing nothing on WoW.  Those games have a different flow.  MMO gaming is desinged to be extremely gated.  If you literally compare the content, (NPC's, quests, crafting, side quests, ect.) of Skyrim to WoW...you'd notice that they are pretty similar.  But to enjoy that content in WoW you'd have to spend years playing it.  The content is fed to us from a smaller spoon.  Skyrim has grand and epic things happen, and some of them aren't even scripted.  I fast travelled to a mine to get some ore and had to fight off two dragons, (whom were actually battling each other till I got there), across two mountains and spanning a time of 15 minutes.  That was a regular moment in Skyrim.  In an MMO that same encounter would require me to grind to endgame and be geared out and have a large group with me.  And it would be scripted.  I was harvesting a bloody node, for all intents and purposes, and had what, in most MMO's, would have been a major boss battle.  In 15 minutes.  The same battle would have taken an hour in MMO terms.

  That doesn't even include flavor.  Flavor, like little sprinkels of awesome cast across dull cake.  Harvesting a material in an MMO is just me running around mindlessly.  There are rarely ever extra things in that.  Some mobs to kill at most.  I was grabbing some berries in skyrim and say a house in the distance.  That house wasn't in any quest.  It was just a flavor point.  It belonged to some old alchemist, he made a garden there.  Had a diary in his bedroom.  Told about his recent experiences.  You could tell that they really LIVED that guy for a moment when they made the game.  His whole area had a feeling about it, serene and nice.  It had flavor.  It was interesting, and it served NO purpose. 

  Its not that a player enjoys something in one game and hates it in another because we're stupid.  Some games just DO things better.  The design structure of the game is better, and better supports those things.  MMO's are money grabs by the market.  They are the Farmville of rpg gaming.  Novel, sorta fun, but mostly giant time gates backed by an entry fee.  No matter how good they are...they always have much larger gates than single player games.  Recall my mention of Modern Warfare?  Players like pointless PvP in that because its faster.  5 minutes, maybe 10.  Action is geared so fast is makes your head spin.  Because its so short per match...you can come and go fast if you wanna.  You aren't shooting for some crazy goal..yeah they have progression but its a backseat reward.  The real reward is that one moment...the crazy knife throw that kills someone across a map or the predator missle that drops 5 guys.  That moment where you are superman.  You ARE the condition for victory and you feel it.  MMO games can't have that...they are RPGs.  Games built around stats, and playing them is a game of playing those values.  You are a small part of a big puzzle and there is a time gate in place to make sure you have to keep playing for months before you can make those values better so your side can win.  Even with starter gear in MW3 you can be a superman.  A level 1 player is not one shotting a level 80 in any MMO.

  It is not the player...it IS the game.  The genre does not know how to exist.  It has yet to learn how best to provide content to players who consume it so fast.  Games like minecraft know it....Bethesda knows it.  You give them a game, you fill it more full that you ever thought you could.  Then you give them the power to make a game their own.  to make their own content.  To make the world itself create new content.  But what you do NOT do...what you cannot do...is gate the content.  You cannot slow the player...let the player run wild.  What MMO gaming NEEDS is not more content.  Not nicer players.  It needs revision.  It needs to have games that create their own content and tools for players to create content too.  When you have millions of players in your world...200 people just can't make content large enough or well enough.  Stop thinking players as mice in your maze and think of them as tools at your disposal.  Let them shape the game into what they want.  And give them a world that can shape itself as well, to amaze them.  The genre suffers because the worlds we play in are stagnant, set in stone.  Nothing really changes...and we have to play in them for years.  An ever changing world, now that would be something.  I'd pay a sub for that.

  cyrician

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Joined: 5/14/10
Posts: 162

9/21/12 7:26:05 AM#143
I don't usually bye into these posts but I have to say , Never before has someone stated what is 100% fact. Let's change the landscape of MMO,s and start playing games to have fun... Not to be the first idiot to race to level 80 and complain that they didn't enjoy the path taken.   A game comes that breaks the mold that says enough  its time for you guys to realize that you don't have to rush to the end.
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  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
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9/21/12 5:43:49 PM#144
Originally posted by Novusod
Originally posted by Ausare
Pve only sandbox is a graphical chat room. Most players as it stands now do nit want forced or open world pvp. I do not see these games beating themeparks with the current ideas for the mainstream.

What do you think D&D was for all those years? It was just people sitting around a table talking to each other about a fantasy world they all enjoyed and were exploring together. It certainly was not about a the loot carrot or this made up term called progression. The fun was in the slow journey to the destination.

The original D&D idea of having people sitting around talking is out of date. How many do that any more? How many are playing progression games?

The fun is the progression here ... at least for a lot of players.

 

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