I'm going to start by saying I love this game. My posts here and elsewhere have been far from negative. Sure I have my occassional complaints, but who doesn't. I enjoy the game despite the problems I have with it.

Now, saying that, my biggest complaint right now is the overreacting community. Not here, as the people on MMORPG tend to be pretty reasonable with reasonable posts. But seriously, I can't say A WORD in game about the current problems it faces.

For example, today I was wandering around in the Norn starting area because I thought it would be fun to have another character. In the map chat, I see someone being viciously assaulted because he said, and I quote, "It sucks that the trading post is still down..." This sounds like a perfectly reasonable complaint considering we are three weeks into the game and a major feature is still not working properly.  Then, when I tried to defend what he was saying, I became the target, and people went as far as insulting my intelligence for defending this poor other guy. 

Then, he brought up the complaint of a lack of official communication. The fact that we have to have a twitter account (which many don't have) in order to keep updated seems unprofessional. But, of course, if I don't have a twitter than I'm just ignorant (yes, this is what someone told me). God forbid anyone request that the client give us the news updates we want, or at least the game's own official forums.

I'm not sure why exactly, but this game's community in game has become way too defensive over the pettiest things. It's either because they've grown accustom to backlashing at haters, and so at any sense of negativity they try to nip it in the bud. Or maybe it's because people were so convinced this game would be perfect that they had to create a false sense of reality of that perfection, and any seeping thought of negativity would break that reality and leave their brains useless.

I'm curious to hear what you guys think and what you're experiences are. I've found my experiences here are much nicer than in game when talking to other people. Right now I feel like the community feels extremely immature when regarding the games technical faults, like the lack of communication and the downed trading post.

Originally posted by Gorudu

I'm going to start by saying I love this game. My posts here and elsewhere have been far from negative. Sure I have my occassional complaints, but who doesn't. I enjoy the game despite the problems I have with it.

 

Now, saying that, my biggest complaint right now is the overreacting community. Not here, as the people on MMORPG tend to be pretty reasonable with reasonable posts. But seriously, I can't say A WORD in game about the current problems it faces.

 

For example, today I was wandering around in the Norn starting area because I thought it would be fun to have another character. In the map chat, I see someone being viciously assaulted because he said, and I quote, "It sucks that the trading post is still down..." This sounds like a perfectly reasonable complaint considering we are three weeks into the game and a major feature is still not working properly.  Then, when I tried to defend what he was saying, I became the target, and people went as far as insulting my intelligence for defending this poor other guy. 

 

Then, he brought up the complaint of a lack of official communication. The fact that we have to have a twitter account (which many don't have) in order to keep updated seems unprofessional. But, of course, if I don't have a twitter than I'm just ignorant (yes, this is what someone told me). God forbid anyone request that the client give us the news updates we want, or at least the game's own official forums.

 

I'm not sure why exactly, but this game's community in game has become way too defensive over the pettiest things. It's either because they've grown accustom to backlashing at haters, and so at any sense of negativity they try to nip it in the bud. Or maybe it's because people were so convinced this game would be perfect that they had to create a false sense of reality of that perfection, and any seeping thought of negativity would break that reality and leave their brains useless.

 

I'm curious to hear what you guys think and what you're experiences are. I've found my experiences here are much nicer than in game when talking to other people. Right now I feel like the community feels extremely immature when regarding the games technical faults, like the lack of communication and the downed trading post.

I would rather have that than an offensive or simply a quiet community. Also, I don't find them that petty... They will admit when the is a problem.

Defensive? More like offensive!

Amirite? Amirite? Amirite?

*crickets

Its true, though.

The client does give updates after each patch and on general state of the game....

The trading post concern is fine.... but when you said that I'd jump on you too.  If you ignore whats plain in front of you on the launcher then maybe they were right?

The community has mostly been defensive against the false informations which was used against the game by a minority of what I would call "troll haters", since you find those same few people on almost every new released MMO forum.

I definitely don't mind someone not liking the game. But I do not like people using wrong information to try to bash the game.

And yes, it sucks that the auction house is down again. I also remember being stuck in crouch position in WoW for 10+ minutes because of loot lag at release. I remember sitting in a queue for 1+ hour in SW:TOR. I remember catastrophic launches like Anarchy Online or Age of Conan. The AH may be down, but I can log into the game, play, make my characters progress, and I have no queue to log in, and the game is smooth and responsive. I always try to relativize.

But I will repeat, yes, the auction house being down sucks, and we should get an ETA as well as info about it.

Originally posted by alexmino
Game not as popular as people expected, thus they are over defensive because for some reason they think they made the game.

2+ million games sold (and that was one and half week ago), the servers flooded with active players, all zones from level 1 to 80 active... and that even during work hours in the middle of the day? Seriously, the stuff that makes you hallucinate saying the game is not popular is good one, keep your supplier - those mushrooms are very good ;-)

Originally posted by alexmino
Game not as popular as people expected, thus they are over defensive because for some reason they think they made the game.

 Seems about as popular as people expect and its busy during the middle of the day on a weekday.

What else were you expecting?  WoW to go bankrupt due to such fierce competition?

I love how almost every negative post about GW2 or it's community starts with some sort of disclaimer to help minimize the backlash.

Of course the point has merit. To the point of being true. Most threads here as well perfectly demonstrates this.

But then again, this is not specific to GW2. Almost all major games' fans are way too defensive nowadays. Especially around launch. Close to launch and some time after, it's practically war. 

Originally posted by fat_taddler

I love how almost every negative post about GW2 or it's community starts with some sort of disclaimer to help minimize the backlash.

I wonder why everyone acts like this is some kind of phenomenon specific to GW2 alone.

Your post was everything I wanted to say, worded perfectly. I can almost bet money that if not the first reply after this but maybe the one after will be a knee-jerk defensive flame that gets personal.

This is the reason I decided not to buy the game and honestly is the only real issue for me. Fans have ruined the fun and butterflies-in-stomach feeling you get when the game is just  launching. The people who are not open to criticism act as if their game is the blood of Christ, and if it were, why the hell aren't we seeing those kinds of results? "Well it's because people like you have bad taste/go back to WoW/yeah look how many it sold (if this is someones' only argument then they will soon realize how illogical it is)/...yeah..well..uh...F*CK YOU (runs off).

I've been told BY MANY PEOPLE IN REAL. LIFE. that the game can (especially if you work at it) truly feel like a single player game. I've watched them play it. Now....granted...To have someone throw personal insults at me about how i'm wrong is commonplace in any mmo, in any online community. It's just that percentage of appropriate response compared to inappropriate flaming response is much, much worse here.

if you want to trash talk GW2 do it on the TSW and SWTOR forums like everyone else.

People playing GW2 dont really want to hear it in game. We, the GW2 players arnet logging in to your games (like TSW and Swotor) filling you chat with complaints.

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

yes, it sucks that the auction house is down again. I also remember being stuck in crouch position in WoW for 10+ minutes because of loot lag at release. I remember sitting in a queue for 1+ hour in SW:TOR. I remember catastrophic launches like Anarchy Online or Age of Conan. The AH may be down, but I can log into the game, play, make my characters progress, and I have no queue to log in, and the game is smooth and responsive. I always try to relativize.

But I will repeat, yes, the auction house being down sucks, and we should get an ETA as well as info about it.

im a gw2 fan and i think ANET needs improvement

ANET communication and support has been lacking

Originally posted by solarine

Of course the point has merit. To the point of being true. Most threads here as well perfectly demonstrates this.

But then again, this is not specific to GW2. Almost all major games' fans are way too defensive nowadays. Especially around launch. Close to launch and some time after, it's practically war. 

 

This is very true indeed. However  it's been at a level close to KILL THIS POSTER ON SIGHT (after him posting a criticism of gw2) for months and the past year, even two years. By two years I mean people weren't talking about gw2 as MUCH, but still the ratio of "someone posts a criticism = instant flame" was still extremely high. Not alot of "this game might be alright....I still think x game might be better at time of launch but....etc"

Originally posted by MajorBiggs

Your post was everything I wanted to say, worded perfectly. I can almost bet money that if not the first reply after this but maybe the one after will be a knee-jerk defensive flame that gets personal.

This is the reason I decided not to buy the game and honestly is the only real issue for me. Fans have ruined the fun and butterflies-in-stomach feeling you get when the game is just  launching. The people who are not open to criticism act as if their game is the blood of Christ, and if it were, why the hell aren't we seeing those kinds of results? "Well it's because people like you have bad taste/go back to WoW/yeah look how many it sold (if this is someones' only argument then they will soon realize how illogical it is)/...yeah..well..uh...F*CK YOU (runs off).

I've been told BY MANY PEOPLE IN REAL. LIFE. that the game can (especially if you work at it) truly feel like a single player game. I've watched them play it. Now....granted...To have someone throw personal insults at me about how i'm wrong is commonplace in any mmo, in any online community. It's just that percentage of appropriate response compared to inappropriate flaming response is much, much worse here.

 Wait so you insult the fan base then wonder why you get a knee jerk response of "F*ck you"from the fan base.

Go to a phillies game.. talk crap about the phillies to phillies fans and see if you get to your car ********alive******** then talk about the GW2 community having knee jerk reactions.

I made a thread concering this matter a few days ago, though It was eventually locked. I wonder If this thread will get locked as well. People need to settle down and realize that this game has problems, amoung lot's of other games. I don't know what people expected and I know that the DEVS spouted this game off as being different from the other AAA MMO's when at It's core It's the same. 

When people see these things, they bring It to the attention of others, also smaller things like the OP said with the trading post. It's valid and will no doubt get fixed, to be attacked by the community for pointing out such things is ridiculous. I guess like many people have said, this game feel's like THEIR game the holy grail that they've been waiting for thus anything said to slander It Is absurd In their eyes. 

I guess what It comes down to is... Calm down yo' It's not that serious. Let people comment on these flaws, the more they point them out the more Arena Net may look into fixxing them. Failing that we can waiit for the next AAA MMO to come out and we can repeat the process. However, that being said; I don't think that next game will have the same effect Guild Wars 2 has had on the MMO community, there's just something about the hype that a lot of other games won't be able to top. 

I'm glad someone else has picked up on this and has decided to voice their opinion. :)