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PvP  » GW2 separates real PvPers from the wannabes

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9/20/12 1:49:43 PM#21

The Epeen is strong in this one.


A person can get good at any game. There is certainly nothing magical about GW2.

You stay sassy!


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9/20/12 1:56:12 PM#22

Originally posted by Tardcore
Please explain the massive hue and cry over the current tactics of Ruin Gaming in Wvw then.


You can stop now.


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9/20/12 1:57:12 PM#23
*gives the OP a medal*

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9/20/12 1:58:22 PM#24

As for the topic, yes skilled players can go a long ways, I watched a level 26 mesmer take on a handful of players that separated from the main zerg in WvW the other night and he killed most of them- a MESMER, and no I didn't even see him use Moa bird at all (I asked, he said he doesn't have it).

I've personally faced players that are hard to kill, they dodge, put up reflection/retaliation, heal, etc. at the correct times and even a level 80 won't kill a player that knows how to do that.


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9/20/12 1:59:17 PM#25

lol yawn.. anytime you read "carebears, dumb down, wow" its you not them. And other then paying $50 your playing free to play.  1st time pvp? Do you know how many just PVP for fun? With friends and not to get some stupid loot. Just play and have fun and dont worry about other players.  

Haha .. its a GAME.. later wannabe



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OP  9/20/12 2:22:46 PM#26
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9/20/12 2:32:32 PM#27

There are certain classes that are MUCH easier to play than others, with limited tactics that work fairly constsistently.  Then you have Necro or Elementalist and even Engineer.  I play a Necro, lvl 58 now and popped on with a Warrior just for kicks in PvP.  SO MUCH EASIER its beyond comparison.  You just don't have to think all that much for example.  I watched people abuse 1000 blades and 2 other skills over and over again and now I know why.   I love my necro due to the complexity and options in PvE, but learning how to PvP well with him is like NIGHT AND DAY.   A warrior took very little time to "get it" and even then, the way PvP works, it just doesn't have the intuitive nature of WOW(vanilla) for example with defined animations & "tells", counters.    Too many skills that have too many effects, built on top of one another with stacks of dots, buffs and debuffs.  Its sort of a mess, esspecially with how many effects are blowing up all over the place.

PvP in GW2 just hasn't captured me just yet.  Still can't get over such a lack of skills and abilities you can actually use without having to swap everything around.  Having less skills but with multiple effects doesn't really make up for it.


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9/20/12 3:19:16 PM#28

come on,  we cant take you serious if you mention GW2 and "real PvP" in one sentence.

If you wanna see real PvP , visit the arenas in wow.


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9/20/12 3:20:50 PM#29
I agree with op.

Sick of nonsense from wowites playing gw2 like "how can we tell who is best pvpers when there is no pvp gear"

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9/20/12 3:24:55 PM#30

Originally posted by Tardcore

Originally posted by gessekai332 What i really like about this game is that people who are legitimately good at the game are rewarded. I would always get annoyed in other games when developers would try to dumb the game down WoW style and make it so PvE carebears can steamroll legit pvpers because they were faster at leveling or they bought overpowered gear with gold or cash. But in gw2  this isn't the case because even though there are slight differences in gear doesnt make bads into good players. My friend is lvl 10 in PvE(he just does sPvP all day) was rolling with me in WvW last night and we were smashing people to pieces (2v2, 2v3, and in zergs). He later remarked to me that he is surprised that that there are so many people who are high level but they just suck so much and die to stupid things. They are nothing to the people he encounters in sPvP even when gear and level is in their favor.   Valuable lesson #1 for GW2 PvP: You play PvP, you get good at PvP. You play PvE you die in PvP. Valuable lesson #2 for GW2 PvP: Bads whine about new game mechanics they are not used to (underwater combat, downed state, no trinity). Good players know how to adapt and steamroll!!   I cannot express to you how refreshing it feels to log onto one of my lower lvl alts decked out in greens and smash lvl 80 players in exotics because they dont understand what condition-heavy metagame means.
Please explain the massive hue and cry over the current tactics of Ruin Gaming in Wvw then.

Ruin isnt that the alliance that got their ass handed to them by Titan alliance a few times in a row ?
Ruin the cheaters in WvW ?
Ruin the casual campers ?
Ruin the switch servers to avoid strong competition ?

Or you mean something totaly diffrent :P ?


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OP  9/20/12 3:25:19 PM#31
Originally posted by SnarlingWolf

You want to know why you killed a few people in WvW PvP? Most don't give a sh!t.


I love PvP, and love real challenging PvP. I've enjoyed playing FPS games in ladders and leagues for the competitve value of them. When it comes to GW2 WvW, I quickly found how pointless WvW was as a whole so I just follow the zerg around and hit a few buttons and genuinely don't care about the outcome as long as my xp bar moves regularly. When a find myself in a spot where I'm alone (or with one other person) and a couple of the enemy find me, I either teleport back to the waypoint before they engage me or stand there and wait while they kill me. I just do not care what happens in WvW and can't really see why anyone does, there is no important reason to "win" or to hold more stuff. It is far more beneficial to just move with the zerg and get kills and loot.


So, way to go on your WvW excellence!!!

I love competetive pvp as well and have been playing in competitive leagues and ladders in all sorts of pc multiplayer gaming ever since lobby-based online gaming. In those games, the only "point" is to go up in the ladder and to be better than other clans/groups or whatever. What makes GW2 any different when you compete for server/guild recognition instead of gear? It IS competitive if you want it to be. Pretty sure there is a lot of sh1t talking and drama from the top guilds in the top servers in wvwvw.

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9/20/12 3:25:45 PM#32
Originally posted by Mari2k

come on,  we cant take you serious if you mention GW2 and "real PvP" in one sentence.

If you wanna see real PvP , visit the arenas in wow.

 lol you made beer come out my nose with that one. good joke.


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9/20/12 3:26:38 PM#33
The title may not be true for everyone, but it's true for me... but maybe I just suck lol

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9/20/12 3:30:07 PM#34

:glance at title:  You have no idea just how many games...oh, never mind.


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9/20/12 3:45:44 PM#35
Originally posted by Requiem1066

Valuable lesson #4 for GW2 PvP:   The real PvPer's are playing other games 



well said






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9/20/12 3:46:15 PM#36
I laughed, I cried.  Thanks for the humours read.

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9/20/12 3:49:31 PM#37
Originally posted by Icewhite

:glance at title:  You have no idea just how many games...oh, never mind.


At first I chuckled at the OP.  I mean, my eyes teared up - I laughed until I coughed.  Then I took a moment, trying to put things in context, and I could see the point I believe the OP was trying to make.  GW2 handles PvP more like a basic FPS.  So there is that separation - it's not a simple case of somebody massively overgearing another player and being able to roll their face across the keyboard to win.  So I wiped the tears from my eyes and conceded the point... course, I read the title again and started laughing again, having completely forgotten what I had just conceded - because while it's PvP, it's still just...well, as meaningful as a basic FPS.

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9/20/12 3:51:33 PM#38
Lol ruin suck

They need to cross server AND piggy back with a zerg server to win.

Most of the hardcore rvr guilds from daoc / war / aion are on the medium servers where they guaranteed round the clock action.

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9/20/12 3:53:32 PM#39
Originally posted by gessekai332

Valuable lesson #1 for GW2 PvP: You play PvP, you get good at PvP. You play PvE you die in PvP.


Sterotypical.....I'm good at both.

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9/20/12 3:54:24 PM#40
Originally posted by gessekai332
Originally posted by Requiem1066

Valuable lesson #4 for GW2 PvP:   The real PvPer's are playing other games 



Yeah i agree GW2 has to compete with good pvpers going to dota or LoL.

? Try Eve Online instead.

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