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  AzurePrower

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Joined: 3/18/07
Posts: 1545

Ahh yes, "Hypers." The people who praise and hate every MMORPG... We've dismissed that claim.

 
OP  9/18/12 8:17:10 PM#1

Not only do we have to deal with people using teleporting hacks we've been seeing lately.


We're having to put up with bad sportsmanship and cheesing of the game by things such as a dominant guild abusing free transfers to the server they are currently facing in WvW to spy to let their guild know where we are attacking, calling out false targets in map/team chat to confuse/lead us into an ambush, spam recruitment for their winning server/guild and even stop us from using our siege equipment.

Keep an eye on this Archaos guy and notice he is from the same guild as the ones dominating the WvW battlefield:

http://i.imgur.com/X6WXb.jpg

Recruitment spam:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5487/gw036.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pGsdZ.jpg

Calling out false targets:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5520/gw038.jpg

Using our siege and admitting in chat to preventing us from using it (and falsely accusing us of exploiting):

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5650/ruintrebbing.jpg

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5531/gw007.jpg

They even have the gall to post this video with Archaos in the video and as the main voice over:

http://youtu.be/z4ntkZC6RTg

Also if people are wondering where they are getting all those golems from. No they're not spending 1g a piece. You get them free from jumping puzzles, which they also camp and prevent any access to.


Updated with Guild Wars 2 support team response:



Response [Representative name omitted] via Email 09/19/2012 08:48 AM
Hello,

Although it might be be bad sportsmanship, espionage and sabotage are legitimate tactics in any combat based game. We would not consider the use of these tactics to be a violation. Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Take Care,
[Representative name omitted]
Guild Wars 2 Support Team
http://support.guildwars2.com


  Zeus.CM

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Joined: 6/13/10
Posts: 1800

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9/18/12 8:24:40 PM#2
This is disgusting! They are even proud of that 'espionage' tactic...
  StanlyStanko

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Joined: 10/28/11
Posts: 274

9/18/12 8:26:38 PM#3
Outrageous Egregious Atrocious !
  Sideras

Novice Member

Joined: 2/13/04
Posts: 236

9/18/12 8:35:43 PM#4
Yeah, like I said nothing wrong with the game. But players are complete shitheads these days.
  Tardcore

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/13/09
Posts: 2370

"A strange game. The only winning move is not to post."

9/18/12 8:52:00 PM#5
Originally posted by AzurePrower

Not only do we have to deal with people using teleporting hacks we've been seeing lately.


We're having to put up with bad sportsmanship and cheesing of the game by things such as a dominant guild abusing free transfers to the server they are currently facing in WvW to spy to let their guild know where we are attacking, calling out false targets in map/team chat to confuse/lead us into an ambush, spam recruitment for their winning server/guild and even stop us from using our siege equipment.

Keep an eye on this Archaos guy and notice he is from the same guild as the ones dominating the WvW battlefield:

http://i.imgur.com/X6WXb.jpg

Recruitment spam:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5487/gw036.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pGsdZ.jpg

Calling out false targets:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5520/gw038.jpg

Using our siege and admitting in chat to preventing us from using it (and falsely accusing us of exploiting):

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5531/gw007.jpg

They even have the gall to post this video with Archaos in the video and as the main voice over:

http://youtu.be/z4ntkZC6RTg

 

Also if people are wondering where they are getting all those golems from. No they're not spending 1g a piece. You get them free from jumping puzzles, which they also camp and prevent any access to.


Things like this is killing the game and it's sad to see A net hasn't done any thing nor even said any thing about this yet.

Welcome to the harsh reality of what happens when you make a large portion, if not the entire portion of your end game competitive PVP based. Been seeing this shit since the days of Shadowbane.

"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "

  Deathenger

Elite Member

Joined: 9/07/08
Posts: 447

Wipe yourself off, U DEAD!

9/18/12 8:56:36 PM#6
If you REALLY wanted to do something about it you would post this on GW2 forums. Whatever mang...
  Xzen

Novice Member

Joined: 5/01/06
Posts: 2642

A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.
- Seneca

9/18/12 9:01:51 PM#7
Originally posted by Deathenger
If you REALLY wanted to do something about it you would post this on GW2 forums. Whatever mang...

It already is on their forums and on their facebook page.

  TwoThreeFour

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/26/12
Posts: 2149

9/18/12 9:05:30 PM#8
Originally posted by Zeus.CM
This is disgusting! They are even proud of that 'espionage' tactic...

It is actually great that they do it, so that Arenanet has stronger incentive to react faster and fix the current holes in the system.

  Nadia

Tipster

Joined: 7/26/03
Posts: 11795

9/18/12 9:07:48 PM#9
Originally posted by AzurePrower

Not only do we have to deal with people using teleporting hacks we've been seeing lately.


We're having to put up with bad sportsmanship and cheesing of the game by things such as a dominant guild abusing free transfers to the server they are currently facing in WvW to spy to let their guild know where we are attacking, calling out false targets in map/team chat to confuse/lead us into an ambush, spam recruitment for their winning server/guild and even stop us from using our siege equipment.

<snip>

Also if people are wondering where they are getting all those golems from. No they're not spending 1g a piece. You get them free from jumping puzzles, which they also camp and prevent any access to.


Things like this is killing the game and it's sad to see A net hasn't done any thing nor even said any thing about this yet.

ANET has WvW forums -- has this been discussed over there? 

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/pvp/wuvwuv

  GeezerGamer

Elite Member

Joined: 4/03/12
Posts: 5268

9/18/12 9:08:22 PM#10
Originally posted by Tardcore
Originally posted by AzurePrower

Not only do we have to deal with people using teleporting hacks we've been seeing lately.


We're having to put up with bad sportsmanship and cheesing of the game by things such as a dominant guild abusing free transfers to the server they are currently facing in WvW to spy to let their guild know where we are attacking, calling out false targets in map/team chat to confuse/lead us into an ambush, spam recruitment for their winning server/guild and even stop us from using our siege equipment.

Keep an eye on this Archaos guy and notice he is from the same guild as the ones dominating the WvW battlefield:

http://i.imgur.com/X6WXb.jpg

Recruitment spam:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5487/gw036.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pGsdZ.jpg

Calling out false targets:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5520/gw038.jpg

Using our siege and admitting in chat to preventing us from using it (and falsely accusing us of exploiting):

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5531/gw007.jpg

They even have the gall to post this video with Archaos in the video and as the main voice over:

http://youtu.be/z4ntkZC6RTg

 

Also if people are wondering where they are getting all those golems from. No they're not spending 1g a piece. You get them free from jumping puzzles, which they also camp and prevent any access to.


Things like this is killing the game and it's sad to see A net hasn't done any thing nor even said any thing about this yet.

Welcome to the harsh reality of what happens when you make a large portion, if not the entire portion of your end game competitive PVP based. Been seeing this shit since the days of Shadowbane.

It's all about mad skillz yo. Some people aren't into it for the challenge, they just want to walk away saying We won. We're so skilled.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Nadia

Tipster

Joined: 7/26/03
Posts: 11795

9/18/12 9:09:11 PM#11
Originally posted by Xzen
Originally posted by Deathenger
If you REALLY wanted to do something about it you would post this on GW2 forums. Whatever mang...

It already is on their forums and on their facebook page.

i didnt see it on the WvW  forums but i probably didnt look hard enough

  KingJiggly

Novice Member

Joined: 8/03/11
Posts: 807

Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome.

9/18/12 9:11:36 PM#12
There are no rules in love and war... So do it yourselves. Organize, abuse their idea, ( don't exploit though... Don't wanna be banned lol) . Spy on them. Do what you must to win. Until Anet fixes it, that is all you can do if you want to win. This ain't no Disney film.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation

  Yizle

Novice Member

Joined: 4/24/10
Posts: 530

9/18/12 9:12:20 PM#13
Originally posted by Tardcore
Originally posted by AzurePrower

Not only do we have to deal with people using teleporting hacks we've been seeing lately.


We're having to put up with bad sportsmanship and cheesing of the game by things such as a dominant guild abusing free transfers to the server they are currently facing in WvW to spy to let their guild know where we are attacking, calling out false targets in map/team chat to confuse/lead us into an ambush, spam recruitment for their winning server/guild and even stop us from using our siege equipment.

Keep an eye on this Archaos guy and notice he is from the same guild as the ones dominating the WvW battlefield:

http://i.imgur.com/X6WXb.jpg

Recruitment spam:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5487/gw036.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pGsdZ.jpg

Calling out false targets:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5520/gw038.jpg

Using our siege and admitting in chat to preventing us from using it (and falsely accusing us of exploiting):

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5531/gw007.jpg

They even have the gall to post this video with Archaos in the video and as the main voice over:

http://youtu.be/z4ntkZC6RTg

 

Also if people are wondering where they are getting all those golems from. No they're not spending 1g a piece. You get them free from jumping puzzles, which they also camp and prevent any access to.


Things like this is killing the game and it's sad to see A net hasn't done any thing nor even said any thing about this yet.

Welcome to the harsh reality of what happens when you make a large portion, if not the entire portion of your end game competitive PVP based. Been seeing this shit since the days of Shadowbane.

Well I don't condone exploiting or cheating the basic mentality of owning your competition is fine. In SB we held an area of land on the island and desert and if you came there you died. If you were in a spot we wanted hunt at we attacked. If we needed to get intel we did. Not as far as directly sabotaging the other guild/group with some of these tactics but we learned your strat, numbers and your playtimes. But will say the type of person gaming now has changed. Their personality at least.

  Xzen

Novice Member

Joined: 5/01/06
Posts: 2642

A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.
- Seneca

9/18/12 9:14:03 PM#14
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Xzen
Originally posted by Deathenger
If you REALLY wanted to do something about it you would post this on GW2 forums. Whatever mang...

It already is on their forums and on their facebook page.

i didnt see it on the WvW  forums but i probably didnt look hard enough

 

The first post on the WvW forums is "Hey Ruin! Stay on your server!" The whole first page is people pissed about all these shenanigans.

  User Deleted
9/18/12 9:15:24 PM#15
The game being ruined by a guild named RUIN...Teh Irony!
  Tardcore

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/13/09
Posts: 2370

"A strange game. The only winning move is not to post."

9/18/12 9:19:34 PM#16
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Tardcore
Originally posted by AzurePrower

Not only do we have to deal with people using teleporting hacks we've been seeing lately.


We're having to put up with bad sportsmanship and cheesing of the game by things such as a dominant guild abusing free transfers to the server they are currently facing in WvW to spy to let their guild know where we are attacking, calling out false targets in map/team chat to confuse/lead us into an ambush, spam recruitment for their winning server/guild and even stop us from using our siege equipment.

Keep an eye on this Archaos guy and notice he is from the same guild as the ones dominating the WvW battlefield:

http://i.imgur.com/X6WXb.jpg

Recruitment spam:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5487/gw036.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pGsdZ.jpg

Calling out false targets:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5520/gw038.jpg

Using our siege and admitting in chat to preventing us from using it (and falsely accusing us of exploiting):

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5531/gw007.jpg

They even have the gall to post this video with Archaos in the video and as the main voice over:

http://youtu.be/z4ntkZC6RTg

 

Also if people are wondering where they are getting all those golems from. No they're not spending 1g a piece. You get them free from jumping puzzles, which they also camp and prevent any access to.


Things like this is killing the game and it's sad to see A net hasn't done any thing nor even said any thing about this yet.

Welcome to the harsh reality of what happens when you make a large portion, if not the entire portion of your end game competitive PVP based. Been seeing this shit since the days of Shadowbane.

It's all about mad skillz yo

LOL. Thank you Jesse Pinkman. Well actually its all about totally ratfucking your competition. With the excepton of the endless free server transfers (something that is no one but A-nets fault themselves), I fail to see how the other tactics are breaking the rules. Are they devious? Annoying? Sure. But breaking any rules? I don't feel they are.

"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "

  Kakkzooka

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9/18/12 9:27:05 PM#17
I haven't played PvP at all . . . yet. This isn't "Ilum bad" is it? Certainly these issues can be addressed and or resolved by firming up the server transfer costs, no?

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  GeezerGamer

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Joined: 4/03/12
Posts: 5268

9/18/12 9:28:02 PM#18
Originally posted by Tardcore
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Tardcore
Originally posted by AzurePrower

Not only do we have to deal with people using teleporting hacks we've been seeing lately.


We're having to put up with bad sportsmanship and cheesing of the game by things such as a dominant guild abusing free transfers to the server they are currently facing in WvW to spy to let their guild know where we are attacking, calling out false targets in map/team chat to confuse/lead us into an ambush, spam recruitment for their winning server/guild and even stop us from using our siege equipment.

Keep an eye on this Archaos guy and notice he is from the same guild as the ones dominating the WvW battlefield:

http://i.imgur.com/X6WXb.jpg

Recruitment spam:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5487/gw036.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pGsdZ.jpg

Calling out false targets:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5520/gw038.jpg

Using our siege and admitting in chat to preventing us from using it (and falsely accusing us of exploiting):

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/5531/gw007.jpg

They even have the gall to post this video with Archaos in the video and as the main voice over:

http://youtu.be/z4ntkZC6RTg

 

Also if people are wondering where they are getting all those golems from. No they're not spending 1g a piece. You get them free from jumping puzzles, which they also camp and prevent any access to.


Things like this is killing the game and it's sad to see A net hasn't done any thing nor even said any thing about this yet.

Welcome to the harsh reality of what happens when you make a large portion, if not the entire portion of your end game competitive PVP based. Been seeing this shit since the days of Shadowbane.

It's all about mad skillz yo

LOL. Thank you Jesse Pinkman. Well actually its all about totally ratfucking your competition. With the excepton of the endless free server transfers (something that is no one but A-nets fault themselves), I fail to see how the other tactics are breaking the rules. Are they devious? Annoying? Sure. But breaking any rules? I don't feel they are.

They are defininitely abusing the server transfers. That goes against the reason why people aren't allowed across servers. But it's no different than Multiple accounts. I recall playing SWG. We were Imp and we had a BH in our guild who was officially a Reb but that was just to get close to their Jedi. If players are going t ospend money in the CS to convert to gold, they'll buy another box too.

 

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Nadia

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9/18/12 9:29:07 PM#19
Originally posted by Xzen

The first post on the WvW forums is "Hey Ruin! Stay on your server!" The whole first page is people pissed about all these shenanigans.

i did see that earlier but GW2 forum Op was making complaint about Ruin guild recruiting on other servers

 

i agree, as players chime in, other issues are made clear

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Hey-Ruin-Stay-on-your-server

  Xerith

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Posts: 972

A monkey poured coffee in my boots

9/18/12 9:40:30 PM#20

Assuming this is the same Ruin as Rift, these things are really nothing new to this guild. They will find every little hole they can and exploit it, and when they cant, zerg everything into oblivion. 

Why anyone would wan't to be a part of such a community like Ruin is beyond me. 

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