Originally posted by Torgrim

How do you feel about the game, the good the bad what might come?

For me I still enjoy the game, I don't rush but the game seem to rush on me via leveling is somewhat increased after lvl 40 despite anet 1-2 takes as long as 79-80.

Besides that I still having a blast playing the game.

How about you guys?

 

2 weeks does not a month make.

i havent leveled past 16 yet, its rather grindy feeling and putting me off of actually playing it.

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

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I'm more and more convinced by what I read that the people who get "bored" with GW2 are those who just can't let the WoW clone gear carrot model go. But it's fair enough, no game is made for everyone :)

What about sandbox fans - say, EVE players - who don't like this game?

What about people looking for a smartly conceived hybrid - say, something like Archeage or even Fallen Earth? 

What about players who are just looking for a beautifully realized world full of lore and interesting stories and features that promote these? Say, something like LOTRO?

From my experience, there are all kinds of gamers among those who found they've gotten bored with GW2.

You're being awfully shortsighted and dismissive, in my opinion. 

Still playing the game, about 150 hours, I have a level 80 Necromancer and reached rank 15 on sPvP. At first I did a lot of PvE, it was rather fun. I figured out that it's harder to level before 40 and easier after or so. I reached 70-80 in just one day of playing so this proves that. This is the first of the newer MMOs where I've reached max level and that's a +

After 50 or so I switched back and forth between PvE and sPvP. I really enjoy sPvP specially the tournaments. I've yet to craft a good PvP set though but I feel I might just have enough crystals. I've tried WvW but the queues are just too long by the time it prompts I'm done playing, I just don't play for that long without a break.

I've got about 90% Map completion, that's to show how much effort I have put in PvE, I've also earned about 15 gold in total and crafted up to level 200 in one profession, crafting is tough and surely can't be done without farming/buying materials for the higher levels of it. Maybe cook you can though.

I've still yet to finish a dungeon. I've tried AC twice but both times 2 of the team members leave after the first boss so I just can't find a reliable team, I do want a dungeon set and get to experience them all at least once so there's that. I also want to craft a legendary weapon but the chance of that seems so far away, it will take a lot of time and that's just time that I don't have anymore like I used to.

I also would like to create some alts, I've leveled an elementalist and guardian in the course of 6 hours, both to level 14. Preferring the guardian it's a class that I would also like to level up and suit up, it's different from my Necromancer whos half his traits are broken, I stil love him though.

Overall I think the game still has a lot left for me, even though I haven't gotten far beside 80 I think I play too much and need to slow down more I just can't play like I used to. I put about 4 hours into gaming after work, I have to do other chores and spend time with my family I barely get any sleep. But after everything I think the game has still a while to go for me, which is good because the last games that I've played didn't last me over 2-3 weeks (Diablo III, Tera, Dayz)

Originally posted by neorandom

Originally posted by Torgrim

How do you feel about the game, the good the bad what might come?

For me I still enjoy the game, I don't rush but the game seem to rush on me via leveling is somewhat increased after lvl 40 despite anet 1-2 takes as long as 79-80.

Besides that I still having a blast playing the game.

How about you guys?

 

2 weeks does not a month make.

 

i havent leveled past 16 yet, its rather grindy feeling and putting me off of actually playing it.

Picky, picky! hehe It's actually been 3 weeks if you count pre-purchase release. :)

Don't play the hearts, just explore and be one with the game grasshopper! /zen

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

"Across all characters, you have played for 250 hours"

... and I'm not even remotely close to see the end of it. I don't even have full exotics on my main yet. Having a blast just keeping on exploring the gorgeous world, doing dungeons with guildies, crafting, helping others... aka playing the game for FUN and not for the next raid gear tier.

I'm more and more convinced by what I read that the people who get "bored" with GW2 are those who just can't let the WoW clone gear carrot model go. But it's fair enough, no game is made for everyone :)

Nie bait.

I have read posts from players who come from games like Eve Online or other sandbox MMOS and they are also getting bored quick. What do you have to say about them?

Originally posted by Xasapis

Originally posted by IPolygon

Originally posted by mark2123

Played 150 hours and decided that the only way I'll stick with this game is to limit myself to an hour a day, because every map is the same other than the scenery, ie you know you need to fill the hearts, discover areas and visit the vistas, over and over.

What I like about the questing in other MMO's , that GW2 has moved away from, is the unpredictability. I might pick up a quest in one area, visit another map, get introduced to an NPC, need to visit a city, collect some stuff, then return to the quest-giver. With GW2, you know that it's all happening in one small area at a time. And it just feels like loads of mini-games rather than any real story or point to it.

If it was a sub-based game, I'd be out, but, I think I'll end up putting more hours overall, into this game, than other one-off paid games I may have bought in the past, so that's something.

You are playing it wrong. GW2 is about exploration and not doing map checklists. ANet made a mistake with Renown hearts being so dominant in the first couple of maps. But things will get better once more DE's are added. If you want additional purpose or story behind what you are doing, you need to talk to NPCs. GW2 is very different from other MMOs and a lot of players need to get away from the checklist mentality of traditional MMOs.

Actually he's playing it right. There is a reason there is a percentage of the world completion and you get a star by your name when you are at 100%. You are meant to do all hearts, waypoints, points of interests and vistas on every map in the world, every city and every WvW battleground. Of course, you can just move around randomly from place to place but the checklist is there, in your face so to speak, for a reason.

In contrast, the jumping puzzles are not "in your face" and you actually have to dig into your achievement page to find out that there is a whole lot of them you can complete.

 

Personally the way I did it was by following the personal story and fully completing the zone that the personal story led me to before I moved on to the next. That obviously led me to max level at some point and the end of the personal story. After that I just moved and completed all the cities and then one by one the zones that were not related to my personal story.

Sure, there are nice rewards and such, but all these things are for a specific kind of players: completionists. If you are a completionist and trying to complete the whole game in 3 days, then call the game lacking content, I'll tell you you're playing it wrong. The core of the game's content is not renown hearts (not repeatable, won't get increased in later updates), waypoints, poi etc but dynamic events. The checklist is there to provide guidance for people stuck in the old ways, early adaptors recognize GW2 for DE (core content, will be enhanced and expanded in the future).

Don't say you have seen everything the game has to offer, when you are done with world completion. At that point the game begins.

edit: stupid typos

Originally posted by solarine

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

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I'm more and more convinced by what I read that the people who get "bored" with GW2 are those who just can't let the WoW clone gear carrot model go. But it's fair enough, no game is made for everyone :)

 

What about sandbox fans - say, EVE players - who don't like this game?

What about people looking for a smartly conceived hybrid - say, something like Archeage or even Fallen Earth? 

What about players who are just looking for a beautifully realized world full of lore and interesting stories and features that promote these? Say, something like LOTRO?

From my experience, there are all kinds of gamers among those who found they've gotten bored with GW2.

(removed the insulting part)

Yeah, pretty much all people who hoped GW2 would be different from what has been advertised for years now by ArenaNET.

"Sandbox only" players are known to bash any non-sandbox game anyway, specially on this site, so they aren't a big deal. We are used to them.

Archeage? We know nothing about that game but cool promises for now, excuse me if I reserve my opinion for when we have proofs all those cool promises are indeed in game. There are people living NOW and enjoy what's available NOW, and those who always dream about the next MMORPG which will fullfill all their dreams. Life told me to enjoy what you have before it's too late - so I'm part of the first group personally ;-)

Players looking for a beautifully realized world full of lore and not seeing it in GW2 need to wear better glasses. And those interesting stories in LOTRO most of the times involve you going to get 10 wolf tails, 20 boar guts and 50 goblin shields... I know about it, I have a lifetime account in that game. I actually came to wish someone like ArenaNET got the LOTRO franchise, and not Turbine.

Yes, there are "all kind" of gamers who got bored with GW2... you forgot the hardcore facerollers who already had level 80 full exotic 100% world a couple of days after release, those no game can ever satisfy because they spend more time playing video games than doing real life duties (if they have any). All those players though wanted to make GW2 something ArenaNET NEVER pretended it was. They clearly announced it wasn't another WoW clone with end game raid tier gear grind. It was also obvious it wasn't a sandbox.

So what did those people expect?

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by solarine

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

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I'm more and more convinced by what I read that the people who get "bored" with GW2 are those who just can't let the WoW clone gear carrot model go. But it's fair enough, no game is made for everyone :)

 

What about sandbox fans - say, EVE players - who don't like this game?

What about people looking for a smartly conceived hybrid - say, something like Archeage or even Fallen Earth? 

What about players who are just looking for a beautifully realized world full of lore and interesting stories and features that promote these? Say, something like LOTRO?

From my experience, there are all kinds of gamers among those who found they've gotten bored with GW2.

(removed the insulting part)

Yeah, pretty much all people who hoped GW2 would be different from what has been advertised for years now by ArenaNET.

"Sandbox only" players are known to bash any non-sandbox game anyway, specially on this site, so they aren't a big deal. We are used to them.

Archeage? We know nothing about that game buy cool promises for now, excuse me if I reserve my opinion for when we have proofs all those cool promises are indeed in game. There are people living NOW and enjoy what's available NOW, and those who always dream about the next MMORPG which will fullfill all their dreams.

Players looking for a beautifully realized world full of lore and not seeing it in GW2 need to wear better glasses. And those interesting stories in LOTRO most of the times involve you going to get 10 wolf tails, 20 boar guts and 50 goblin shields... I know about it, I have a lifetime account in that game. I actually came to wish someone like ArenaNET got the LOTRO franchise, and not Turbine.

Yes, there are "all kind" of gamers who got bored with GW2... you forgot the hardcore facerollers who already had level 80 full exotic 100% world a couple of days after release, those no game can ever satisfy because they spend more time playing video games than doing real life duties (if they have any). All those players though wanted to make GW2 something ArenaNET NEVER pretended it was. They clearly announced it wasn't another WoW clone with end game raid tier gear grind. It was also obvious it wasn't a sandbox.

So what did those people expect?

You need to make up your mind. Is it only WOW players who get bored of GW2, or is it sandbox players? hardcore facerollers? or pretty much everyone?

Your posts make less sense than cup of noddles. Such flip flop and contradiction in every post.

Well, from the moment the mmorpgs have gained checklists (aka achievements/dailies etc), it's hard for achievers to resist filling them. For example, I really hate alts, but I may roll two up to the point that they'll give me the character creation screen badges.

Anyway, the only way to keep people in these checklist games of today is either to have a huge checklist, or an insane grind for things that people are willing to grind for. It seems that borderlands 2 is the next hot thing and people are hoping there as well.

Originally posted by halflife25

You need to make up your mind. Is it only WOW players who get bored of GW2, or is it sandbox players? hardcore facerollers? or pretty much everyone?

Your posts make less sense than cup of noddles. Such flip flop and contradiction in every post.

There's absolutely no contradiction in my posts, except the one you add with your imagination.

People disapointed/bored with GW2 are those who try to make the game something it isn't. Be it WoW clone fans who don't find their end game gear grind, sand boxers who don't find their sand, or hardcores who don't find enough content (but those never find enough content anyway =P).

People who enjoy GW2 are those have (or would have) also enjoyed games like UO or AC1, where there was no pre-defined "end game", but where the purpose was to play... for pure, simple fun. There was no gear grind in those games, no forced grouping to get the best gear either. People grouped to complete harder tasks, not to get shinier shinies. You didn't get facerolled by a guy in full "PvP gear" because there was no such thing. GW2 goes back to that model, with improvements.

To me (and that's my opinion now, of course), GW2 is what Asheron's Call 2 should have been.

Originally posted by halflife25

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

(removed the insulting part)

Yeah, pretty much all people who hoped GW2 would be different from what has been advertised for years now by ArenaNET.

"Sandbox only" players are known to bash any non-sandbox game anyway, specially on this site, so they aren't a big deal. We are used to them.

Archeage? We know nothing about that game buy cool promises for now, excuse me if I reserve my opinion for when we have proofs all those cool promises are indeed in game. There are people living NOW and enjoy what's available NOW, and those who always dream about the next MMORPG which will fullfill all their dreams.

Players looking for a beautifully realized world full of lore and not seeing it in GW2 need to wear better glasses. And those interesting stories in LOTRO most of the times involve you going to get 10 wolf tails, 20 boar guts and 50 goblin shields... I know about it, I have a lifetime account in that game. I actually came to wish someone like ArenaNET got the LOTRO franchise, and not Turbine.

Yes, there are "all kind" of gamers who got bored with GW2... you forgot the hardcore facerollers who already had level 80 full exotic 100% world a couple of days after release, those no game can ever satisfy because they spend more time playing video games than doing real life duties (if they have any). All those players though wanted to make GW2 something ArenaNET NEVER pretended it was. They clearly announced it wasn't another WoW clone with end game raid tier gear grind. It was also obvious it wasn't a sandbox.

So what did those people expect?

You need to make up your mind. Is it only WOW players who get bored of GW2, or is it sandbox players? hardcore facerollers? or pretty much everyone?

Your posts make less sense than cup of noddles. Such flip flop and contradiction in every post.

Duh, not all players lika any game, no matter how great (or bad) it is. I know several sandbox fans that really like GW2 actually, because it have exploration. But you might argue that they are sandbox light fans who more enjoy Skyrim than Minecraft, but still, sandbox fans are not a homogene group that all loves ganking and FFA full loot PvP.

And some people dont enjoy the story of GW2. I dont enjoy reading Harry Potter or regular dective books, that doesnt mean they all suck, just that I dont like it.

Korrigans point was probably that many Wow players seems to dizz the game without trying it and that is a misstake, if you given both games a chanse and still prefer Wow that doesnt mean you are wrong, just that taste differs.

Originally posted by Xasapis

Well, from the moment the mmorpgs have gained checklists (aka achievements/dailies etc), it's hard for achievers to resist filling them. For example, I really hate alts, but I may roll two up to the point that they'll give me the character creation screen badges.

 

Anyway, the only way to keep people in these checklist games of today is either to have a huge checklist, or an insane grind for things that people are willing to grind for. It seems that borderlands 2 is the next hot thing and people are hoping there as well.

Well, then you should take a look at your gaming habbits and make up your mind of what you want from a game or how do you want to have fun. What I want is pretty simple: kickback from the job and have fun for a couple of hours. Not mean to judge you, but habbits are pretty good at killing fun or define what you enjoy. Also, playing completely different genres is a nice way to look at games differently and see where the industry is going.

Since GW2 is b2p and switching games is within ANets philosophy, I don't think they mind people going for other games. It's also not like GW2 is not plagued by a couple of issues right now. Hence waiting a couple of weeks until the first storm of players settled is not a bad idea.

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by solarine

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

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I'm more and more convinced by what I read that the people who get "bored" with GW2 are those who just can't let the WoW clone gear carrot model go. But it's fair enough, no game is made for everyone :)

 

What about sandbox fans - say, EVE players - who don't like this game?

What about people looking for a smartly conceived hybrid - say, something like Archeage or even Fallen Earth? 

What about players who are just looking for a beautifully realized world full of lore and interesting stories and features that promote these? Say, something like LOTRO?

From my experience, there are all kinds of gamers among those who found they've gotten bored with GW2.

(removed the insulting part)

Yeah, pretty much all people who hoped GW2 would be different from what has been advertised for years now by ArenaNET.

"Sandbox only" players are known to bash any non-sandbox game anyway, specially on this site, so they aren't a big deal. We are used to them.

Archeage? We know nothing about that game but cool promises for now, excuse me if I reserve my opinion for when we have proofs all those cool promises are indeed in game. There are people living NOW and enjoy what's available NOW, and those who always dream about the next MMORPG which will fullfill all their dreams. Life told me to enjoy what you have before it's too late - so I'm part of the first group personally ;-)

Players looking for a beautifully realized world full of lore and not seeing it in GW2 need to wear better glasses. And those interesting stories in LOTRO most of the times involve you going to get 10 wolf tails, 20 boar guts and 50 goblin shields... I know about it, I have a lifetime account in that game. I actually came to wish someone like ArenaNET got the LOTRO franchise, and not Turbine.

Yes, there are "all kind" of gamers who got bored with GW2... you forgot the hardcore facerollers who already had level 80 full exotic 100% world a couple of days after release, those no game can ever satisfy because they spend more time playing video games than doing real life duties (if they have any). All those players though wanted to make GW2 something ArenaNET NEVER pretended it was. They clearly announced it wasn't another WoW clone with end game raid tier gear grind. It was also obvious it wasn't a sandbox.

So what did those people expect?

You dont need to be a ¨hardcore player¨ to be 80 fast, 1 free weekend is enough. And gw2 not being a wow clone?, yes you are right, is pretty much a warhammer- rift clone but the wolrd map in Rift and Warhammer are open and biggest, in gw2 is pretty much the same hardcore thempark that it was GW1, with paths, walls and portals everywhere.  and you are talking about lore? again is a joke compared with games like Lotro, Warhammer and Swtor, GW2 is far far away behind those MMO, talking about lore and history. And im not even talking about the fail that is the Spvp atm, it should be the best about gw2 but now is a casual joke, ¨teamwork and tactics¨? nah, just zerg everysingle conquest point and you´ll win. Not even a month and  poeple getting bored and quitting everyday, and wait for MoP. good thing GW2 is B2P, as a P2P it could be after the 1st month the biggest failure in the MMO history.  

Originally posted by halflife25

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by solarine

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

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I'm more and more convinced by what I read that the people who get "bored" with GW2 are those who just can't let the WoW clone gear carrot model go. But it's fair enough, no game is made for everyone :)

 

What about sandbox fans - say, EVE players - who don't like this game?

What about people looking for a smartly conceived hybrid - say, something like Archeage or even Fallen Earth? 

What about players who are just looking for a beautifully realized world full of lore and interesting stories and features that promote these? Say, something like LOTRO?

From my experience, there are all kinds of gamers among those who found they've gotten bored with GW2.

(removed the insulting part)

Yeah, pretty much all people who hoped GW2 would be different from what has been advertised for years now by ArenaNET.

"Sandbox only" players are known to bash any non-sandbox game anyway, specially on this site, so they aren't a big deal. We are used to them.

Archeage? We know nothing about that game buy cool promises for now, excuse me if I reserve my opinion for when we have proofs all those cool promises are indeed in game. There are people living NOW and enjoy what's available NOW, and those who always dream about the next MMORPG which will fullfill all their dreams.

Players looking for a beautifully realized world full of lore and not seeing it in GW2 need to wear better glasses. And those interesting stories in LOTRO most of the times involve you going to get 10 wolf tails, 20 boar guts and 50 goblin shields... I know about it, I have a lifetime account in that game. I actually came to wish someone like ArenaNET got the LOTRO franchise, and not Turbine.

Yes, there are "all kind" of gamers who got bored with GW2... you forgot the hardcore facerollers who already had level 80 full exotic 100% world a couple of days after release, those no game can ever satisfy because they spend more time playing video games than doing real life duties (if they have any). All those players though wanted to make GW2 something ArenaNET NEVER pretended it was. They clearly announced it wasn't another WoW clone with end game raid tier gear grind. It was also obvious it wasn't a sandbox.

So what did those people expect?

You need to make up your mind. Is it only WOW players who get bored of GW2, or is it sandbox players? hardcore facerollers? or pretty much everyone?

Your posts make less sense than cup of noddles. Such flip flop and contradiction in every post.

Give it a rest, it's a video game. It is made up of many different types of players and people. He was generalizing that folks are use to playing like they do in WoW is all. Holy crud it's drama Tuesday!

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by halflife25

You need to make up your mind. Is it only WOW players who get bored of GW2, or is it sandbox players? hardcore facerollers? or pretty much everyone?

Your posts make less sense than cup of noddles. Such flip flop and contradiction in every post.

There's absolutely no contradiction in my posts, except the one you add with your imagination.

People disapointed/bored with GW2 are those who try to make the game something it isn't. Be it WoW clone fans who don't find their end game gear grind, sand boxers who don't find their sand, or hardcores who don't find enough content (but those never find enough content anyway =P).

People who enjoy GW2 are those have (or would have) also enjoyed games like UO or AC1, where there was no pre-defined "end game", but where the purpose was to play... for pure, simple fun. There was no gear grind in those games, no forced grouping to get the best gear either. People grouped to complete harder tasks, not to get shinier shinies. You didn't get facerolled by a guy in full "PvP gear" because there was no such thing. GW2 goes back to that model, with improvements.

To me (and that's my opinion now, of course), GW2 is what Asheron's Call 2 should have been.

So i imagined this post by you?

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I'm more and more convinced by what I read that the people who get "bored" with GW2 are those who just can't let the WoW clone gear carrot model go. But it's fair enough, no game is made for everyone :)

You are clearly trying to imply here that only people who are geting bored of WOW are people addicted to grind. And when called out on this generalization you suddenly change your tune and even include sandbox MMO players into this 'bored' category.

I have started to see this pattern in your psot where you keep changing goal posts to make your point.  

Originally posted by Amjoco

Give it a rest, it's a video game. It is made up of many different types of players and people. He was generalizing that folks are use to playing like they do in WoW is all. Holy crud it's drama Tuesday!

Yes generalising only WOW players, that w as my point and then suddenly changed his point in next post. Why people love to rag on WOW players ONLY is beyond me.

But why are you telling me 'it is just a game' and 'give it a rest'?  i am not trying to single out a specific group of players here or making any generalizations. People get bored of games..it is that simple..regardless of their gaming background. Somethign he needs to understand.

I wonder why you even quote me? 

I hit level 57 last night on my thief. Did my first Explorer Mode CM with a pug, none of whom had done it before. It took over 4 hours but we had a laugh.

GW2 suits my playstyle. I'm not a raider and end-game for me has always been about PvPing for the fun of it, not who has the best gear.

That said, the queues for WvWvW need a look at. At my level it's not so bad because there's other things to do, but I worry how I would feel at level 80 after completing all the map and story.

Overall I'm still having lots of fun and before GW2 released I couldn't find anything else that interested me in over 6 months. I hope I still feel the same at level cap.