Originally posted by Jimmydean

Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

I'm level 80 and today I was helping my GF in some personal story missions,

She fall a bit behind in levels, she is lvl 67, and she really is behind her story, like 33 or so.

Anyway she was feeling tired but we only missed a couple of events to get the daily achievement.

A norn dude was asking for dwarven artifacts (dwarfs went the way of the dodo in the original GW1). I had actuallly done that event on my own early but went and did it again.

This time I decided to follow the dude, so I followed him to his hut, where he dropped the box with artifacts.

Not long after a charr comes around and they start to chit chat about the artifacts and the charr inspect them. he says one of them isn't of deldrimor (good dwarfs) origin but stone summit (evil dwarfs) instead.

Meanwhile some pirates (there is tons in the area) arrived, wanting to claim the artifacts. battle ensues with pirate defeat.

An asura couple (apparently they run some delivery service since their lab blew up) and their dolyak arrive to take the artifacts to some other norn dude (not sure where he fits in the story, was to tired to read).

So escort event. Once we arrive, the asuran tells the norn he feel that one of the artifacts is malefic and might be hard to dispose of. The norn convinces the male asuran to help him despite the reluctance of the female asuran.

Big giant demon imp dude is summoned from the artifact.

All this happened naturaly with no interaction from the players other than jumpin in the action.

Yeah, GW2 is great and whoever says GW2 is just like all the other themeparks MMOs is wrong.

 

And what sort of gameplay did this "event" inspire? An escort, a kill 10 pirates, a kill the boss at the end. For some of us, presentation isn't enough.

why don't you apply for a creativity job? everything has been done. a simple quote from south park can solve the problem of inovation " Simpsons done it, Simpsons done it"

;)

Bought GW2 a week after it came out, all of my friends really convinced me to buy it and I have to say I am pleasantly surprised. I just got 42 on my Guardian and have been playing casually. I haven't been grinding at all, all of the areas and events pull you around the map nicely and is a great change of pace. I have done a little bit of WvWvW but I don't expect to get entirely into it until 80.

As for the longevity I can see myself at lvl 80 not doing any PvE or PvP and trying to get 100% world completion first because so far that is my favorite thing to do. I love getting rewarded for exploring and GW2 has one of the most beautifully crafted worlds I have seen since Vanilla WoW (and hopefully FFXIV when that is re-released :P).

But yeah so far I am having a lot of fun exploring and not forcing myself to do PvP or PvE and just kinda going with the flow!

reading all this  i think gw in its pre faction days had more to offer and was more social 

than gw2 .

If you try  please egomaniacs in an online game where ppl actualy ment to interact with each other

your attempt to create an mmo has failed ...big time

I really find it quite intresting what makes a game good and bad within this thread.

This was my intent from the start, what people finds fun or boring, stuff like that.

Good keep it going, this thread should be a good read to those who are on the fence.

I am still playing from time to time but not more than maybe 2-4 hrs a week it just does not grab me like it does so many others.

It did make me buy the 1year sub plus expansion for Rift tho and am having lots of fun again GW2 really made me appriciate the Worldinvasions now thats impact on the gameworld 

I also started playing FF14 more again and enjoying it so i guess i can say that GW2 really came through for me 

Originally posted by Cursedsei

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

Originally posted by Rokurgepta

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

I think I may take a break for a while.

 

I was happily trying to complete 100% exploration but ran into bugged skill points that stay bugged for days.  I also realized that I need to explore all four WvW maps even though three of them are identical.

 

WvWvW is OK but I'd need to improve my graphics card to enjoy it more.  I'm not a fan of the zerg thing anyway.

 

I've only run one instance and it was the level 30 story mode.  I didn't enjoy it at all.

 

I haven't tried sPVP yet.

 Why didnt you like the dungeon you did? I have not done a dungeon yet myself.

It's likely a combination of many things.  Being in a pug with people around lvl 30 didn't help.  I'm sure if it was a more organized group things would have been better.  I was just expecting a fun intro level dungeon and not being in the downed state or LOS the boss as much as occurred.  I think the first dungeon experience should be enjoyable and not much of a challenge.

Caudecus's Manor is much better, trust me. Honestly my only big issue so far would be the feeling of disconnect in difficulty between the Ascalon Catacomb's level and Caduecus Manor. It's not just a "it gets better as you play more" issue, as even the 60s+ in my guild will agree that Catacombs feels like its a little too harshly tuned for people, enough so that it could turn them away, specially for an introductory dungeon.

We ran them back to back last night, story mode for both. It was die and die again for the majority, then when we faced Kashe and finally the final boss, was easy, mainly because their mechanics aren't nearly as balls-to-the-wall frustrating. The manor though? Enjoyable romp!

That's encouraging to hear.  Part of my issue is that I'm stressed IRL and so I don't want the stress of learning new mechanics right now.  So clearly I can't be a knock on GW2 dungeons.  In my current frame of mind I'd probably only really enjoy simple 1-59 WOW vanilla dungeons where I can just pew pew.

Level 80 for a week now or so, still actively playing and exploring the world, currently at 85% world completion. Got loads of gold, full exotic self-crafted Magic Find set, bought many cash shop upgrades and items for gold, nothing for RL cash, so that part too works perfectly. WvW is awesome and I can see spending loads of time there.

The game has a solid foundation, ther are bugs still and things that need to be done, but seeing this as the new  foundation of MMO's, it's as good as it could have been. From now on, every MMO should build and expand on this, I can't imagine playing the old style MMO's again. For example the current Dynamic Event system is more of a skeleton, a template, and I hope ANet and other developpers will expand and build on it. Heck I hope to see it in single player titles too, such as in the next TES game and maybe even GTAV.

Originally posted by Torgrim

How do you feel about the game, the good the bad what might come?

For me I still enjoy the game, I don't rush but the game seem to rush on me via leveling is somewhat increased after lvl 40 despite anet 1-2 takes as long as 79-80.

Besides that I still having a blast playing the game.

How about you guys?

 

Waffled on classes a lot. I keep wanting to try a class after I see other people doing cool stuff with them. Original plan was to go guardian, but first day of EA, I impulsively rolled Necro. Less than thrilled. Did the guardian. Got him to 25 and got a little bored. Did a Ranger. Got him to 50. Tried Necro again. Got a little farther, but again non-plussed. Did another guardian and that has stuck. He's currently 58.

Taking my time. When I do a zone, I do a zone. I don't rush thru. I do every heart, POI, vista, etc. Done some WvWvW. Hate the borderlands. Hate just about every aspect of them. I enjoy EB aside from not having a guild to do stuff with and sometimes sitting and watching the various self-declared Sun-Tzu's argue endlessly in /T or /M gets a little old.

Only tried one dungeon and only got halfway thru. Three rangers, a necro and a thief isn't a diverse enough group. Especially so when almost all are dps spec'd rather than having any support.

Negatives: sPVP was underwhelming. I'm still in disbelief they included nothing but point domination as a game type and REALLY disappointed in various maps, particularly the one with the underwater point where if you control it, the npc sharks make it all but impossible to lose. The other one is the one (sorry, I haven't played enough to know the names readily) that has an NPC boss. The overall design of this particular map allows and seemingly promotes spawn camping, which I feel is craptacular design.

WvWvW queues need some sort of solution, but I'm not entirely sure what that is. Additionally, the "I only see one enemy, but when I jump down to take him on, suddenly he has 50 allies and I'm dead in 2sec" thing gets old. Also, wish it was somewhat less zergy. I understand zergs are needed for sieges and siege defense, but seeing a 50 man zerg taking supply camps endlessly is a bit overkill.

DE's need to not be as buggy. I can be a little patient on this aspect, but at the same time there was a LOT of criticism on this intarwebz site for a couple other MMO's released in the last year and their state of bugginess. If we're going to be so critical of the bugs they had, it's only fair to be as critical of GW2's.

Oh, and canhaz 2factor authentication please?

TL;DR - Generally, I'm very happy. I enjoy the 'change the paradigm' gospel they're preaching. There are some kinks they really need to work out.

1st week or 2, I had a blast. Now, I just don't feel it.

I'll probably pick up interest again at some point.

I'm actually considering MoP On top of Rift's SL just to give them a spin.

I think this game is amazing, Taking my time leveling with most of the classes and still enjoying the content. 80, don't really care when I hit cap, just enjoying the ride. Although I wasn't a huge fan of the graphics during beta, I totally get it now.  I'm finding the little fine details that are put into the design what I like most. World seems so alive half the tiime I can't tell the difference between live toons and npc's, so damn cool. The nooks an crannies in the world are fun to explore, I get so sidetracked. Passive grouping and non trinity I'm so sold on it. Gameplay is so convenient I don't feel like I'm being bled out for my game time.

Finding the personal story and dungeons to be a tad hard for my taste but it's a small part of the content I don't mind skipping. Fun doesn't always have to equal challange, it can be snowball fights with brats or getting mowed down by a stampede of minotaurs. Having a great time with pvp. I can go on and on. All in all it was money well spent and I'm looking forward to many more hours of entertainment.

Originally posted by Jimmydean

Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

I'm level 80 and today I was helping my GF in some personal story missions,

She fall a bit behind in levels, she is lvl 67, and she really is behind her story, like 33 or so.

Anyway she was feeling tired but we only missed a couple of events to get the daily achievement.

A norn dude was asking for dwarven artifacts (dwarfs went the way of the dodo in the original GW1). I had actuallly done that event on my own early but went and did it again.

This time I decided to follow the dude, so I followed him to his hut, where he dropped the box with artifacts.

Not long after a charr comes around and they start to chit chat about the artifacts and the charr inspect them. he says one of them isn't of deldrimor (good dwarfs) origin but stone summit (evil dwarfs) instead.

Meanwhile some pirates (there is tons in the area) arrived, wanting to claim the artifacts. battle ensues with pirate defeat.

An asura couple (apparently they run some delivery service since their lab blew up) and their dolyak arrive to take the artifacts to some other norn dude (not sure where he fits in the story, was to tired to read).

So escort event. Once we arrive, the asuran tells the norn he feel that one of the artifacts is malefic and might be hard to dispose of. The norn convinces the male asuran to help him despite the reluctance of the female asuran.

Big giant demon imp dude is summoned from the artifact.

All this happened naturaly with no interaction from the players other than jumpin in the action.

Yeah, GW2 is great and whoever says GW2 is just like all the other themeparks MMOs is wrong.

 

And what sort of gameplay did this "event" inspire? An escort, a kill 10 pirates, a kill the boss at the end. For some of us, presentation isn't enough.

It created an event that was interesting and fun to follow. Not just some quest you were given by ...what was that NPC's name again? You know, the ones where you kill bats to bring him 10 drops of bat blood that may or may not drop. So that turns into kill 30 bats very quickly. Throughout you care absolutely nothing about these bats or that mystery NPC, you probably have no clue why you're even killing these bats - i mean what did they ever do to you, and when you get your reward from actually walking over and turning the quest in it's some BS Item thats worse than what you're wearing and a measely amount of exp.

You mean escorting something with a purpose. You're not just following his thing around because that mystery NPC told you to. There's a story to it, and a pretty darn good one, and you have a purpose for being there. What you do or don't do affects things around you. You're helping someone in need, not just taking that mystery guys random tasks that he seems to have an over abundance of.

Presentation is everything. I can give you a quest to kill 10 bats or I can give you a story about how bats swarmed and killed my wife and I want revenge. So I ask for your help and we go delving into a cave slaying every bat we come across until my thirst for vengence is quenched. Then I thank you and your exp, karma, and money are automatically given to you. You killed probably more than 10 bats, but you don't even realize it by the time you're done and are too busy enjoying the silly banter of the NPC's..

Boring as hell. If I wanted to play an FPS I'd play COD or something. Wish I could get a refund. I have a feeling most will feel the same way as WvWvW gets stale. For me is goes back to ANet trying to break the 'holy trinity'. No real healing makes melee damn near stupid in large WvWvW as there is no back line healing keeping melee up which makes dieing extremely fast, which means tons of running. Yah, melee can switch to a ranged, but serious? They're a damn melee class. If I wanted to play a ranged class, I'd have rolled something with a better set of ranged abilities.

The game is basically zerg pewpew with no real strategy for WvWvW. I've yet to be wrong about a game failing horribly, and GW2 is going to experiance a huge drop in population once people begin getting sick and tired of the same crap. Rushing a castle, dieing with no real healing, and then running all the way back. Fun! When you spend more time on the rezzing system then the prevention of getting killed, your game is bound to be a complete failure. 

Sure I'll get chastised by some of the silly fanboys who think ANet can do no wrong, but I'm calling it here and now, GW2's pop is going to plummet in another 2 months because of the repetitiveness. They had a good thing with GW1 and then went and completely ruined GW2. The only thing that will keep most of the remaining population is the fact it's free to play after the key is bought, which thank god, because it's not worth $15/month.

<flame suit>

I bought D3 thinking I would be immersed in that because I got bored of MMORPG's. Let's just say that didn't turn out as I thought it would. I can return to Lotro as a Lifer but it still gives me the m'eh feeling thinking about it.

I wanted to try GW2 but I haven't been sold on it yet. I will see what else is around but so far from the majority of comments I may give it a shot since I have a couple weeks off to play coming up.

I hope it is at least entertaining for a little while to make it worth it hehe

Originally posted by Torgrim

How do you feel about the game, the good the bad what might come?

For me I still enjoy the game, I don't rush but the game seem to rush on me via leveling is somewhat increased after lvl 40 despite anet 1-2 takes as long as 79-80.

Besides that I still having a blast playing the game.

How about you guys?

 

I've found levels 40+ to be quicker than the earlier levels mainly because gear is cheap and plentiful and you actually know the game well by that point. I banged out almost an entire level (57 to 58) late last night in about 45 minutes just from running around doing hearts, and such.