Originally posted by TobiasGrey
Whatever it is... it won't be anything new. Blizzard never tries new things, they just water down old ideas and sell them to casuals. WoW was boring and old mechanics wise when it launched, but since it was marketed at non MMO gamers it didn't matter.

\sigh

Originally posted by expresso

Originally posted by TobiasGrey
Whatever it is... it won't be anything new. Blizzard never tries new things, they just water down old ideas and sell them to casuals. WoW was boring and old mechanics wise when it launched, but since it was marketed at non MMO gamers it didn't matter.

\sigh

Not going to try to refute it, because you know its true?

Originally posted by Ausare
Not going to refute it because commenting back to wow haters is pointless. Don't you have some other crap game to con people into thinking is good?

"WoW haters" ? You have to create an entire class of people and deem them "unworthy" to talk to, just to avoid anything critiquing a flawed game?

Besides, this isn't about whether or not WoW is good, it's about whether or not WoW did anything new. Which.. it didn't. that's kind of what its known for.

Originally posted by Ausare
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This is not how people normally have a debate.

Facebook game?  LOL No way.

I expect it to be a major stinker.  It may even go the way of Starcraft: Ghost.

Originally posted by ShakyMo
I don't know why people expect this to be good, following the appalling diablo 3 and indifferent cataclysm & starcraft 2.

Blizzard are like bioware, used to make good games but are now riding on their reputation. Just that bioware started the decline earlier.

I expect Titan to be swtor bad.

Originally posted by Loke666

Titan is suppose to be very different from Wow, I frankly dont think it will do nearly as well as Wow did.

On the other hand do I expect Blizzard to release Wow 2 2016 or so and that will do very well indeed.Because if Titan dont deliver to Activisions expectations Wow 2 is the only sure way for them to earn insane amounts of money, and frankly would I be surprised if they havnt put a small team on it already.

Revealing Wow 2 before Titan is out on the other hand would be a bad idea, some of the Blizzard fans could decide to wait for it instead, and it might hurt Wows expansion sales numbers so they will do it behind locked doors for now.

Of course, that is only me guessing, but every game Blizz made since 1996 have either been a sequel or had one later besides Wow and Wow is their greatest success. Anyone thinking they will do sequels for all game except the one that made them really rich needs to think some more.

I agree, Cata & D3 have hurt their respective franchises at various degree's and stung Blizzards overall rep, I honestly think that it will be up to Titan to restore Blizzards bulletproof rep, but its going to have a harder time doing so since I think Blizzard used up a lot of its "free ride" or "leap of faith" selling power up on D3 and its a real shame because Blizzard gave us excellent games in the form of 3WC RTS + DotA, SC & WoW + TBC  =/

I never understood why gamers would like to see a WoW 2, IMO maybe Blizzard should do a switcheroo by making a "Warcraft 4" & "Universe of Starcraft" I think that would up their fortunes since a lot of Blizzard supporters keep asking for a SC MMO. =)

blizzard didnt make DOTA

they also didnt support the people who made it

which is why they now work for valve not blizzard

Originally posted by ShakyMo

blizzard didnt make DOTA

they also didnt support the people who made it

which is why they now work for valve not blizzard

I know it is a Mod made from WC3, I just didn't bother/lazy to elaborate thats all =)

Originally posted by Thebigthrill

-Blizzard said it would be a social game. I'm thinking Titan will be directly tied into Facebook.

Um.

Which is the only part of your posting thats not pure speculation, isnt it ?

Anyway this alone is more than enough for me to not care about this project at all, since I view social networks as riddiculous constructs that allow a single company to collect tons of data of people. I'm certainly not going to join in.

Originally posted by ShakyMo
I don't know why people expect this to be good, following the appalling diablo 3 and indifferent cataclysm & starcraft 2.

Blizzard are like bioware, used to make good games but are now riding on their reputation. Just that bioware started the decline earlier.
 

Biowares last good game was Dragon Age: Origins. Not that long ago ?

Maybe the Mass Effect stuff IS good too, I wouldnt know. Its a console game with strict copyright protection stuff on it, and its not really a roleplaying game, so its not interesting to me.

Either way Bioware started its decline when EA bought the company.

DA:O was planned to be PC only, with multiplayer. EA made it PC and Console, no multiplayer. DA2 was nothing but a moneymaker, as a game it was a joke. SWTOR became one huge WoW clone, with completely riddiculous details such as Republic and Empire having basically the same set of force powers and non-force combat abilities, just with different names and different visual effects.

I think the core problem is simply that the people leading these companies do not want to make great games. They want to archieve great profits. And Blizzard has the exact same problem.

Originally posted by Nadia

people can only speculate about both Titan and EQNext

We know a ton more about EQ Next than about Titan ... we know it will be a MMO like EQ and EQ2, while Titan ? We have no idea what that game is about at all.

Originally posted by madazz

[...] You'd think the people here would learn that NO game lives up to its promises.

Um, what ? The really great games, like for example

- Baldurs Gate 2

- Neverwinter Nights 2

- Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

- Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines

- Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

all lived up to their promises, if not exceeded them.

But that was before the age of profit. All these games have been created by gamers for gamers. Bioware has been overtaken by EA, Troika Games went out of business, only Obsidian and Bethesda still remain. Somewhat. Last TES was a sure buy for me until Bethesda decided to force Steamworks on their customers.

Almost positive it will go the way of Starcraft: Ghost.

Having two MMORPGs is too big of undertaking, and Blizzard already covers the two major settings us nerds love and enjoy: fantasy, dark fantasy, and science fiction.

A modern MMORPG would be a huge twist. Imagine a realistic modern MMORPG like the Sims, from Blizzard, hah.

What would be a real twist if they made a game that had very little or no violence involved. That would truly impress me.

Originally posted by Killsmallchi
The more I hear/think about titan. The more I realize it is going to be terrible. I just want to shut my eyes and pretend it is going to be a great game, but I know it will be the next big blizzard scandal. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

And yet it will still sell 6 million copies.... before being bashed on sites like this 2 months later and will still be played massively.