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  Rokz

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Joined: 12/17/07
Posts: 3

 
OP  9/16/12 6:11:14 AM#1

I hadn't played for almost 1 year... Tonight I thought I would try out my Paladin and heal a Heroic Dungeon. The dungeon was Deadmines Heroic. 

The healing was fine, we wiped once early due to the tank chain pulling and myself typing but that was no drama, the tank just made a small joke about having great healers at this time of night. But nothing abusive.

Once we got to the door that can be blown by cannon or lockpicked. He asked the Rogue (a friend of mine) to pick the lock, he (the Rogue) never read this and proceeded to use the cannon. The tank then told him that he was stupid but with a bit more foul language inserted and followed that by telling him to delete his account.

I whispered him to ask him to tone it down. Which he replied with more bad language. I then said I was submitting the conversation to Blizzard. Which he made a joke about myself having kids and killing myself. Pretty bold considering there is a massive focus on internet bullying and harassment lately. I then made a screenshot left the group, left the game and uninstalled World of Warcraft. 

I have not purchased Mists of Pandaria, and due to experiences like these I never will. This is absolutely the reason I had quit previously. This environment is no longer enjoyable or exciting.

Is this NORMAL for any other players out there? Can this player be dealt with? The ability to submit tickets has changed since I last used it and I couldn't report abuse at all. I will be posting this in a variety of MMORPG forums, I don't imagine it will last long on these forums.

PLAYER - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmourne/Boombenefits/simple

CHAT LOG - http://tinypic.com/r/35hqlw5/6

  Wicoa

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Joined: 1/08/07
Posts: 1614

9/16/12 6:16:38 AM#2

Your not gonna like this:

The way people are has changed forever this is not wows fault you will see more smack talk than this in fps titles from public matches.  The key for people like you who do not have thick skins is to simply join a guild in any game you play and run dungeons with them exclusively.

The game isn't the environment you play in anymore its your guild.  This is the most important factor to remember when playing mmorpgs it applys to all of them and this is not a complete list EVE, WOW, GW2, it will apply to Planetside 2.

Infact Id like to carve EvE out as your corp/guild is in fact your entire gaming experience without it the game is humdrum.

  halflife25

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/13/12
Posts: 787

9/16/12 6:19:49 AM#3

You people make it sound as if this problem is limited to WOW only.

I have never seen the amount of abuse and smack talk in any MMO that i have seen in EVE ONLINE and that is suppossed to be a MMO for the 'grown ups'. The runner up title would be AOC. God awful community.

  Nadia

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Joined: 7/26/03
Posts: 11795

9/16/12 6:21:01 AM#4

every mmo has its share of idiots

 

i dislike cross server random grouping because character reputation doesnt matter at all

- players can be asshats without social gameplay ramifications

 

that said,

run dungeons w friends or a guild and you can avoid all or most of the troublesome players

 

  Rokz

Novice Member

Joined: 12/17/07
Posts: 3

 
OP  9/16/12 6:23:09 AM#5
Originally posted by halflife25

You people make it sound as if this problem is limited to WOW only.

I have never seen the amount of abuse and smack talk in any MMO that i have seen in EVE ONLINE and that is suppossed to be a MMO for the 'grown ups'. The runner up title would be AOC. God awful community.

Yeah it sort of comes across as anti-wow. It was just a single experience that happened tonight, just needed to rant about it. :P

  User Deleted
9/16/12 6:24:47 AM#6

There are people like this everywhere, man.

There are people like this when you walk down the street.

I'm an avid pug'er in games and I ask people just to shut up or leave when these kinds of arguments start. I see the problem from both perspectives, but the guy didn't need to get mouthy.

  maji

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Joined: 1/15/04
Posts: 1946

9/16/12 6:26:21 AM#7

I think you overreacted. It's an multiplayer game after all. There are such people in multiplayer games. Unless you only play with your buddies, you can basically uninstall all your multiplayer games, and never play any of them anymore in the future.

Though the maturity of the community depends of course on:

- the average age of the players (the younger, the more bad language, because it's so cool)

- how pvp focused it is (the more pvp, the more something is anothers fault, the more bad language)

- the country most people are from (different countries, different cultures, different ways of bringing up youths, and so the community is different too)

Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)

Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)

  User Deleted
9/16/12 6:33:44 AM#8
Originally posted by maji

I think you overreacted. It's an multiplayer game after all. There are such people in multiplayer games. Unless you only play with your buddies, you can basically uninstall all your multiplayer games, and never play any of them anymore in the future.

Though the maturity of the community depends of course on:

- the average age of the players (the younger, the more bad language, because it's so cool)

I disagree. Most of the trash talkers are college-age and older. The younger teens are less apt to act-out because they primarily want acceptance. I know this from experience in online games 2 decades, meeting and listening to people in various voice chats. The biggest trash-talking babies are middle aged guys, surprisingly enough. They think they know everything and don't know when to shut up.

  Rednecksith

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/12/09
Posts: 1272

Bite my fiery metal ass!

9/16/12 6:35:36 AM#9

I agree. People wonder why games such as WoW suffer from a dearth of tanks / healers, it's because the second things go wrong, said classes are immediately blamed. Nevermind the fact that the idiot DPS is standing in the fire, watching the DPS meters instead of the situation at hand...

So sad that people can't wipe and have fun anymore. Some of my best memories of WoW were during TBC years, where my guildies and I would wipe night after night on the heroics in Auchindoun, yet loved every minute of it.

Even more sad is that most companies won't do shit about it because they don't want to lose the subscription revenue. Whether you hate the game or love it, you can't deny that Arenanet is dong the right thing by suspending / banning the accounts of rude asshats. That alone gives them major props in my book.

People bitch about WoW's community... but let us not forget that Blizzard has fostered it, if from only lack of action against it.

  User Deleted
9/16/12 6:38:40 AM#10
Why should the company do something about it.. it's a personality clash. Person A thinks person B is completely wasting person A's time, person B doesn't like to be told that or flashes out subjected to colorful metaphors. Separate and go group with other people. Person A can get his ass handed to him by me, and person B can frolic with my little pony.
  Nadia

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Joined: 7/26/03
Posts: 11795

9/16/12 6:40:02 AM#11
Originally posted by Kaelano1

Most of the trash talkers are college-age and older.

The younger teens are less apt to act-out because they primarily want acceptance. I know this from experience in online games 2 decades, meeting and listening to people in various voice chats.

The biggest trash-talking babies are middle aged guys, surprisingly enough. They think they know everything and don't know when to shut up.

from my own experiences i agree :)

  halflife25

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/13/12
Posts: 787

9/16/12 6:47:36 AM#12
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Kaelano1

Most of the trash talkers are college-age and older.

The younger teens are less apt to act-out because they primarily want acceptance. I know this from experience in online games 2 decades, meeting and listening to people in various voice chats.

The biggest trash-talking babies are middle aged guys, surprisingly enough. They think they know everything and don't know when to shut up.

from my own experiences i agree :)

I agree too that is why i gave example of Eve Online. It is full of middle aged trash talkers.

  Rednecksith

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/12/09
Posts: 1272

Bite my fiery metal ass!

9/16/12 6:55:10 AM#13
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Kaelano1

Most of the trash talkers are college-age and older.

The younger teens are less apt to act-out because they primarily want acceptance. I know this from experience in online games 2 decades, meeting and listening to people in various voice chats.

The biggest trash-talking babies are middle aged guys, surprisingly enough. They think they know everything and don't know when to shut up.

from my own experiences i agree :)

I agree too that is why i gave example of Eve Online. It is full of middle aged trash talkers.

EVE Online has one of the worst communities I've ever experienced.

Want proof? Just mention during casual banter in corp / system chat that you're a believer in one of the Abrahamic religions (other than Islam) and watch the flames fly.

Fuck that game, that company, and the majority of that community.

  neorandom

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Joined: 1/15/08
Posts: 1753

9/16/12 6:56:22 AM#14
pre wow people didnt act like shit in mmorpgs.  then wow came along, and attracted the shitheads, and then didnt punish them for acting shitty.  now every game on the internet smacks of shit.  even if the game is good most of the people playing it make you wish it was an offline solo game.
  Loke666

Elite Member

Joined: 10/29/07
Posts: 16846

9/16/12 6:56:57 AM#15

Internet sadly brings out the worst in some people. I dont think it really is Wows or the genres fault but most MMOs tend to reward selfish behavior like ninjalooting.

You should of course report him, but I doubt that helps.

My recommendation is that you join a large friendly guild and do your dungeons with them instead, if that incident happened there you would report the moron to an officer who would deal with it (hopefully, or you joined a bad guild).

When you are member of a large guild you can also disable the general chat, keeps away Chuck Norris jokes and similar things.

  QuicklyScott

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Joined: 4/27/12
Posts: 448

The opinion of a penguin.

9/16/12 6:57:49 AM#16

Sometimes I wish the internet wasn't anonynous, I know these socially inept fools would never curse you like that if you knew them or if they knew you in real life, let alone say it to your face.

 

There's no physical or social ramifications for being an asshole on the internet.  

  girdisorder

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/05/12
Posts: 45

9/16/12 6:57:54 AM#17

never pug. if you do, you're asking for trouble. just be glad all the other times you pugged and everything didn't go wrong. meantime get some friends that play the mmo's you do, sametime you do and you'll run into a lot less of these types of situations.

2 cents

  Loke666

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Joined: 10/29/07
Posts: 16846

9/16/12 6:59:27 AM#18
Originally posted by neorandom
pre wow people didnt act like shit in mmorpgs.  then wow came along, and attracted the shitheads, and then didnt punish them for acting shitty.  now every game on the internet smacks of shit.  even if the game is good most of the people playing it make you wish it was an offline solo game.

I dont actually think that is just the problem, because it is happening everywhere on the net. Just look on this forum, trolling have been worse and worse the last 4 years and the mods work hard to get the worst offenders banned.

People are acting worse and worse on the net, and it is not only mainstream teenagers anymore either.

  User Deleted
9/16/12 7:02:05 AM#19

Online games aren't the place for that kind of discussion I think, especially an general-type chat. Is that really a prejudice you have against certain games?

 

edit: that was to the religion thing.

  User Deleted
9/16/12 7:06:04 AM#20
Originally posted by Rednecksith
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by Kaelano1

Most of the trash talkers are college-age and older.

The younger teens are less apt to act-out because they primarily want acceptance. I know this from experience in online games 2 decades, meeting and listening to people in various voice chats.

The biggest trash-talking babies are middle aged guys, surprisingly enough. They think they know everything and don't know when to shut up.

from my own experiences i agree :)

I agree too that is why i gave example of Eve Online. It is full of middle aged trash talkers.

EVE Online has one of the worst communities I've ever experienced.

Want proof? Just mention during casual banter in corp / system chat that you're a believer in one of the Abrahamic religions (other than Islam) and watch the flames fly.

Fuck that game, that company, and the majority of that community.

Here. Maybe you'll enjoy this.

http://www.visionsgame.com/

 

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