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The Pub at MMORPG.COM  » I've spent over $1,000 on EVE Online. I spent $60 on Guild Wars 2. EVE Online is a better value than Guild Wars 2 to me.

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9/14/12 10:01:48 PM#121
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by rankor2

Wow $1000!

your happy with that? I'd shoot myself.

It's really not that much as it was spread out over years :)

spread $60 for GW2 over the years and you can almost say it was for free


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9/14/12 10:05:14 PM#122
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by prpshrt

Man no offence but I tried the 14 day trial it was sooooooooooooooooooooo BORING. I remember there was something where you kinda just leveled up without playing the game or something like that. Something about player run corporations and such... 

Anyhow, congrats and I hope you continue having fun with it and I also hope you realize how silly you sound when you say you spent over a $1000 on an online game. Then again... there are WoW players as well. 

Thank you for helping to prove my point.  you say you tried the trial, and didn't like the game.  Did this cost you $60 dollars, guild wars 2 style?  Nope, was free!

Also, for a subscription game, that has been around since before WoW, to have that much lasting appeal?  Amazing.  I never spent more than $15 in one month, unlike with Guild Wars 2.  It's not so much silly, as it is a great accomplishment for CCP to have designed a game to last, rather than to generate a ton of box sales and have players leave in droves the first month as per other MMOs standard.

I'm not getting your logic here?  Are you saying GW2 should have been completely free, or that you would have preferred a subscription fee?

At any rate, I believe what you are feeling is called buyer's remorse.  You bought it, you didn't like it, and now you regret it.  For me $60 is nothing.  I spend that tonight on beer and appetizers with my wife.  GW2 is a way better value (over the bill, not my wife)!

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9/14/12 10:11:58 PM#123

I played WoW for 3 years. Enjoyed it and quit. Played GW1 for 4 years and bought all its expansions. Money not wasted.

I never felt like I was wasting my money up until the final stages of quitting. Being free has advantages, I can pickup GW1 anytime I want just by installing it. Getting back into WoW always feels like there's a barrier.

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9/14/12 10:49:49 PM#124
Originally posted by Caldrin
Originally posted by VirusDancer

It's interesting, in my not the least bit humble at 3 o'clock in the AM opinion, how the OP did not attack GW2 - but rather simply expressed his opinion and even made it very clear it was just his opinon.  He even stated that for others they may very well have experienced something different....

...and so many GW2 fanbois came out of the woodworks to attack the OP.

Just something I found interesting.  They did not share how their experiences were different - they just launched venemous attack after venemous attack against the OP...

...yep, just something I found interesting.

You will see this happen on nearly every GW2 post where someone mentions somthing kind of negative about the game.

Its almost like you have done something with their mother in the back of a volkswagon.. thats how mad they get..


Indeed, that will make them angry.  I get more of a "frothing at the mouth" type of lunacy vibe from the more .. rabid.. fans here.


Interestingly, to me anyway, is that there seems to be a pattern forming.  Almost as if many of those playing GW2 can very clearly see the flaws, yet are determined to treat each thread as a deathmatch rather than admit the faults or let anyone else bring them to light.

Of course, I don't know this to be a fact.  It's just something that imo seems to be starting to happen around here.  Otherwise, why so damn defensive over the smallest of things?

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9/14/12 10:50:57 PM#125
Originally posted by rankor2

Wow $1000!

your happy with that? I'd shoot myself.

its all relevant my friend, some people wipe their butts with 100 dollar bills.   Others are scraping together 3 bucks for a happy meal.  Most people it seems cant even afford to play on line computer games that have a sub so they love F2P games, others see 15 a month as a drop in the bucket with not having to hang ring over how much fun they can afford in the cash shop. 



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9/14/12 11:45:55 PM#126
Originally posted by rankor2

Wow $1000!

your happy with that? I'd shoot myself.

OP... a word to the wise...

The community here is all roofied up over the launch of GW2 and even after the new MMO smell fades like with SWOTR you aren't likely to find many understanding or sympathetic ears.

Don't take it personally,  the crowd around these parts is a bit lacking when it comes to true MMO appreiciation.  It's like arguing with folks that think fine dinning is waiting for the McRib to come back in season.

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9/14/12 11:56:37 PM#127
why are you people still feeding this troll? just let him go back to eve with the 25 other people that play it

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9/14/12 11:57:17 PM#128
Originally posted by kadepsyson

Many MMORPGs offer a free trial period.  This is often a two week timeframe in which you can try the game at no cost to you.  Guild Wars 2 does not offer this.  The lasting appeal of the game Guild Wars 2 lasted for me about the same duration as the trial period other MMORPGs offer, but at an additional $60 cost.  Despite the lack of a subscription fee in Guild Wars 2, there weren't enough reasons for me to keep playing.  Thus I spent $60 dollars on a game I no longer play.

With EVE Online, I've spent over 5,850 hours playing the game.  This came with a subscription fee, but included all expansions, and did not require an initial fee.  They also offer a free trial period.  It may seem like I spent a large amount of money on this game, however, by comparison to Guild Wars 2, the cost per hour of entertainment is by far better in EVE due to its lasting appeal among other great reasons for me to play.  Also, compared to other forms of entertainment, this is extremely inexpensive.  The same amount of time spent, watching $1 2 hour movies, would have cost nearly triple.

In summary, I would have unsubscribed to Guild Wars 2 during the free trial, if it had one.  Unfortunately it didn't, and thus the $60 spent were wasteful in terms of the cost per hour of entertainment gained as compared to EVE Online.  For other people the value might be a bit better in Guild Wars 2 than my experience, so long as they enjoy the things Arenanet said they didn't want, such as grinding, and non-permanent events, which the game is full of.

So, you have played an average of 1.75 hours every single day since may 6 2003 when the game released? ...and still enjoying it?   What made you think after nearly 10 years of games not pulling you away from a game that Guild Wars 2 would be different?


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9/15/12 12:02:30 AM#129

Buy to Play MMO's don't usually launch with a Trial Period. IT is usually after a couple of months have passed that they offer the different variety of Time Trials: 1 - 3 day trials or the usual 14 day trial.



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9/15/12 10:46:20 AM#130
Originally posted by Cephus404
Originally posted by just1opinion


EVENTUALLY is not the same thing as "a couple of months down the road."  Seriously.  Did you actually need that explained to you?  A "couple" of months means 2 months.  I highly doubt we'll be seeing free trials by then, but I suppose one can always hope.  /shrug

Regardless, they were bitching because there was no free trial just a couple of weeks after release.  It's an absurd requirement.


I agree with you, to be honest.  This demand for free trials is absurd.  And you're right....they do come eventually, but you have to be patient and wait for them.  If you choose not to wait it's nobody's fault but your own, were right.

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9/15/12 10:54:56 AM#131
I played eve for the trial couple of weeks, but then had to pay for the next fee months to give me time to get to know the game, only to discover after a fe months that actually it wasn't for me- I demand that those couple months should have been free as well!

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9/15/12 12:08:37 PM#132

Originally posted by Caldrin

Originally posted by VirusDancer It's interesting, in my not the least bit humble at 3 o'clock in the AM opinion, how the OP did not attack GW2 - but rather simply expressed his opinion and even made it very clear it was just his opinon.  He even stated that for others they may very well have experienced something different.... ...and so many GW2 fanbois came out of the woodworks to attack the OP. Just something I found interesting.  They did not share how their experiences were different - they just launched venemous attack after venemous attack against the OP... ...yep, just something I found interesting.
You will see this happen on nearly every GW2 post where someone mentions somthing kind of negative about the game.

Its alost like you have done somthing with their mother in the back of a volkswagon.. thats how mad they get..

You'll see it in every thread where two games are compared. I suppose at some point, once you get down far enough on the ladder of popularity it might not happen, but you'd have to go pretty far down the ladder for it to not happen on these forums.

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.


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9/15/12 1:03:06 PM#133

Can't faceroll with money in Guild wars 2 ?

Need skillz? sorry not for sell, go get an icecream, the sand is right next to it, have fun.


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9/15/12 1:09:16 PM#134
Glad to hear you found the game you enjoy playing and spending over 1000.00$ to just play. But then some people probably spent just the same amount playing Runescape and that game stinks.

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