Trending Games | Pirate101 | World of Warcraft | Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn | Wizard101

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,899,636 Users Online:0
Games:751  Posts:6,268,312
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

Guild Wars 2

Guild Wars 2 

General Discussion  » Final nail in the coffin.

7 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 » Search
139 posts found
  Vannor

Novice Member

Joined: 8/11/03
Posts: 2997

9/14/12 1:23:12 PM#21
Well, a sub won't put me off trying a new mmo release.
  GoldenArrow

Advanced Member

Joined: 6/09/08
Posts: 1104

9/14/12 1:25:23 PM#22

I would like to say that P2P games aren't in a decline.

But because consumers (especially the US consumer) are mostly retarded the Free-To-Play element is far more important than actual in-game balance, people tend to lean on F2P/B2P games.

However a lot of online gamers are more than happy to pay monthly for good MMORPGs. Personally I would happily pay for Eve Online, WoW, Rift, TSW monthly if I were to actively pay these games. Currently I don't have that much time for gaming so I prefer playing MMO's and single player games.

Once we get the next WoW, P2P games will get on a rise again because people will get bored to these imbalanced F2P/B2P games.

My biggest concern is that developers and companies behind them tend to create games that please everyone and if they go for the gamer approach i.e niche game. It's highly likely that they are getting sacked once project is done (like happened with TSW).

My hopes lie towards Asia where good games for gamers are still born.

  Drolkin

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/07/05
Posts: 256

9/14/12 1:27:34 PM#23

15/month=More content updates, so no, it isn't the final nail, it's a different buisness model.

 

You think there will be NEW content in GW2 next month?  Nope, because it isn't p2p.

 

Watch, 2 years from now p2p games out now will have more new content than GW2.

  Naral

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/07/10
Posts: 752

9/14/12 1:31:25 PM#24

To the OPs question, I doubt it. Like others have said, however, it will put the onus on those companies charging a sub to provide better service.

Also, as successful as GW2 is, let the dust settle a bit first. See how this game is doing in six months before you see how it will affect other sub models. This game will make a bundle because it has good box sales, which is good for Anet. People might look at that and use it in the future, but GW2 is falling short for quite a few people, so I would look at the sales on the first xpack to determine the real success of Anet's pricing model, and then you will see other companies react one way or the other.

  Sovrath

Elite Member

Joined: 1/06/05
Posts: 17372

9/14/12 1:32:59 PM#25
Originally posted by Torgrim
Originally posted by botrytis
It is not the nail. Sorry - MMO's are niche games that cater to a smaller number of player. Many different types of business models will be supported. That is unless their business drops to 0 overnight and I don't think that will happen.

 

MMOs are not niche game anymore sorry to break the bubble, they were niche post WoW.

I don't know if that's true.

i would say there are more people playing them before. Many more.

but from what i see, and granted this is anecdotal evidence, the people I meet who even play video games, mostly play single player games or opt for board/pen and paper games. Or they play games like bazinga or angry birds.

I think outside of places like PAX or Gen Con, the people I met who played online games could be counted on a hand and a half. These are people outside my social circle (of which only 3 play video games and only one plays an mmo which is WoW).

Of that hand and a half, all but two solely played Wow. The last remaining two Consisted of a LOTRO player and a gamer guy who seemed to play everthing but other than wow didnt' really like mmo's but would try them out.

I"m just not seeing mmo's being talked about as if they were commonplace. And among gamers I don't see a lot of them in my daily activity.

 

 

 

  User Deleted
9/14/12 1:33:51 PM#26
Originally posted by Drolkin

15/month=More content updates, so no, it isn't the final nail, it's a different buisness model.

You think there will be NEW content in GW2 next month?  Nope, because it isn't p2p.

Watch, 2 years from now p2p games out now will have more new content than GW2.

I cannot think of any P2P games off the top of my head, maybe except for RIFT, that even updates their content that fast. Hell, even WoW, the king of P2P MMOs, updates at the pace of a glacier going up a slight incline.

  botrytis

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/04/05
Posts: 2542

9/14/12 1:35:57 PM#27
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Torgrim
Originally posted by botrytis
It is not the nail. Sorry - MMO's are niche games that cater to a smaller number of player. Many different types of business models will be supported. That is unless their business drops to 0 overnight and I don't think that will happen.

 

MMOs are not niche game anymore sorry to break the bubble, they were niche post WoW.

I don't know if that's true.

i would say there are more people playing them before. Many more.

but from what i see, and granted this is anecdotal evidence, the people I meet who even play video games, mostly play single player games or opt for board/pen and paper games. Or they play games like bazinga or angry birds.

I think outside of places like PAX or Gen Con, the people I met who played online games could be counted on a hand and a half. These are people outside my social circle (of which only 3 play video games and only one plays an mmo which is WoW).

Of that hand and a half, all but two solely played Wow. The last remaining two Consisted of a LOTRO player and a gamer guy who seemed to play everthing but other than wow didnt' really like mmo's but would try them out.

I"m just not seeing mmo's being talked about as if they were commonplace. And among gamers I don't see a lot of them in my daily activity.

 

 

 

All I was pointing out. I talk to people who play Halo and other games like that not MMO's.

 

Thanks!

"In 50 years, when I talk to my grandchildren about these days, I'll make sure to mention what an accomplished MMO player I was. They are going to be so proud ..."
by Naqaj - 7/17/2013 MMORPG.com forum

  Zinzan

Novice Member

Joined: 3/03/06
Posts: 1368

9/14/12 1:38:47 PM#28
Originally posted by lordpenquin

Is GW2 the final nail in the coffin of the western $15/month mmorpg?  Will there be any company that releases a game post GW2 that isn't free to play or buy to play?  Is any company foolish to attempt to charge a monthly fee for a new MMORGP?

 

 

Thats cute, he doesn't realise GW2 is far from F2P.

Give is it a few months, 6 tops and there will be a ~$50 x-pack....that plus ingame necessities such as bank slots, character slots etc and most players still wind up paying the equivalent of a monthly subs fee over a 12 month period :)

It's just a different business model, no-one does anything for free these days.

Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy :)

  Bushi131

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/19/12
Posts: 64

9/14/12 1:38:58 PM#29

It's about time consumer get their money worth, subs are from the past yet so many keep sucking it like it's better to pay, thinking me paying, it give me quality.

Wel for the record, you paying it's just you paying, it doesn't change whatever they are doing with their games.

Good game are good game and it goes the same for bad games. (means, bad games are bad games)

Paying as nothing to do with the game, exept that most of the games studios will find new way to keep you paying, not for you to have fun just keep you paying and if you do have fun, well that is your luck.

 

2 identical chairs one cheap, the other one really expensive, 100 people tried the chair , only 5 said that they where the same therefor taking the cheap one, the other 95% go figure because the expensive chair was more confortable.

It was done and it is true.

 

Get your money worth people, if you earned your money with work just don't give it away like this.

  GeezerGamer

Elite Member

Joined: 4/03/12
Posts: 4879

9/14/12 1:39:33 PM#30

what games since WoW have actually been worthy of a subscription?

I don't think the decline in the P2P model is the model, I think it's the fact that people just don't like the games.

EA blamed the sub model on it's failre of SWTOR.

What are they gogin to say when they can't give the game away? 

I wonder why the fact that we've had a slump of crappy games never even get's looked at as a factor for the decline in the model. Is it because so many people are looking for evidence to justify GW2 revenue model?

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  User Deleted
9/14/12 1:42:04 PM#31
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

what games since WoW have actually been worthy of a subscription?

I don't think the decline in the P2P model is the model, I think it's the fact that people just don't like the games.

EA blamed the sub model on it's failre of SWTOR.

What are they gogin to say when they can't give the game away? 

I wonder why the fact that we've had a slump of crappy games never even get's looked at as a factor for the decline in the model. Is it because so many people are looking for evidence to justify GW2 revenue model?

Because it would mean admitting your product is crap and that you were trying to swindle people into buying a subpar product, which is the last thing any company wants to admit?

  SirBalin

Warmonger

Joined: 11/22/06
Posts: 1076

9/14/12 1:42:40 PM#32
Originally posted by lordpenquin

Is GW2 the final nail in the coffin of the western $15/month mmorpg?  Will there be any company that releases a game post GW2 that isn't free to play or buy to play?  Is any company foolish to attempt to charge a monthly fee for a new MMORGP?

 

 

This is just so funny how some people think that because they have an opinion, its the gospel.  I personally and most in the community I play with prefer pay to play.  Now if i'm paying and content doens't get added...sure theres a problem.

Incognito
www.incognito-gaming.us
"You're either with us or against us"

  Torvaldr

Elite Member

Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5909

9/14/12 1:42:56 PM#33
Originally posted by Enigmatus
Originally posted by Drolkin

15/month=More content updates, so no, it isn't the final nail, it's a different buisness model.

You think there will be NEW content in GW2 next month?  Nope, because it isn't p2p.

Watch, 2 years from now p2p games out now will have more new content than GW2.

I cannot think of any P2P games off the top of my head, maybe except for RIFT, that even updates their content that fast. Hell, even WoW, the king of P2P MMOs, updates at the pace of a glacier going up a slight incline.

RIFT is the only game I can think of that actually has kept up a decent content update schedule.  Most games seem to have banked content so they can release updates after their go live, but after a year or so they dwindle.  We'll see how RIFT does with their update schedule post Storm Legion.

Personally I'm done with subs until they up the ante.  There are decent games out now that don't require a subscription and I'm happy with that.  I'll be watching to see how Blade and Soul, FFXIV, TSO, and other major title releases do in the next year or so as sub games.  I just don't think there is enoug room in the market for more than one or two sub games per them (ie: EVE and space, RIFT and WoW fantasy, etc).

Curse you AquaScum!

  rodingo

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/18/07
Posts: 1789

9/14/12 1:44:18 PM#34
Originally posted by lordpenquin

Is GW2 the final nail in the coffin of the western $15/month mmorpg?  Will there be any company that releases a game post GW2 that isn't free to play or buy to play?  Is any company foolish to attempt to charge a monthly fee for a new MMORGP?

 

 

It's funny how many people missed what the OP wrote just becuase he mentioned "GW2".  They see (something something GW2), check to see if it's positive or negative, then respond in typical fashion.

These forums are so polarized right now about anything GW2 related.  Can anyone remember a game that has stirred so much hater/fanboy emotion.  I don't know if I should be disgusted or laugh my arse off at a lot these threads or the replies from teh usual suspects.  Specially on a forum for a game they don't even play.  Weird? No...Typical? Yes...

 

EDIT:

I forgot to say something along the lines of,.."jeez can't someone state their opinion without being attacked?", as seen in defense of so many obvious troll threads.

"If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor

  Requiem1066

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/28/12
Posts: 274

9/14/12 1:48:18 PM#35

 

If the P2P model disapears then it will because of the consumer and not because of one single game .. The people willing to pay subs for games has been on the decline for years, even before GW2 came out and the fact is there are so many F2P games out now compared to a few years ago that people have options.

 

  Muntz

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/09/09
Posts: 293

9/14/12 1:49:18 PM#36

The P2P model made sense when gear / communication cost for the service was high. That's no longer true but the tradition continues. Beleive me when I say many markets would love a consumer base that is used to and even expects a monthly fee. 

The payment model has little to do with how good or bad a game its. There is no implied contract  in any payment method to say that profits will be injected back into player experience. The company does that all on there own for reputation with the goal to  get addional money. From my experience GW1 delivered I think GW2 will too.

  Reklaw

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/07/06
Posts: 6168

The adult I am takes care of most things real life. However my inner-child is a GAMER!!

9/14/12 1:50:05 PM#37
Originally posted by Torgrim
Originally posted by botrytis
It is not the nail. Sorry - MMO's are niche games that cater to a smaller number of player. Many different types of business models will be supported. That is unless their business drops to 0 overnight and I don't think that will happen.

 

MMOs are not niche game anymore sorry to break the bubble, they were niche post WoW.

I still believe MMORPG's today are niche, but I do agree current MMO's are not.

 

  dariuszp

Novice Member

Joined: 1/19/12
Posts: 187

9/14/12 1:50:59 PM#38
Originally posted by lordpenquin

Is GW2 the final nail in the coffin of the western $15/month mmorpg?  Will there be any company that releases a game post GW2 that isn't free to play or buy to play?  Is any company foolish to attempt to charge a monthly fee for a new MMORGP?

It's all about quality my friend. Give me MMORPG that is a true sandbox MMO with high quality and lot of different stuff to do and I will gladly pay 15$/month. Even more.

GW2 just rised the stakes. Because they provided quality like on one ever did and still they only require from you to buy the box.

  Halandir

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/02/08
Posts: 744

9/14/12 1:52:02 PM#39
Originally posted by Drolkin

15/month=More content updates, so no, it isn't the final nail, it's a different buisness model.

You think there will be NEW content in GW2 next month?  Nope, because it isn't p2p.

Watch, 2 years from now p2p games out now will have more new content than GW2.

 

You may be on to something there.

A P2P game with monthly content updates and  "expansions" that are free to subscribers... Yeah that model might work but please tell me if we have any game (except, to an extent EVE) that actually does that? Oh right your game does not exist, I get it...

I am certain a small amount of 15 $/€ a month games will exist in 2-3 years. NEW Mainstream/financially very successful ones: Not so much.

Here's a hint: WoW has classleading customer support but out of every $15/month only $3 actually pays for gamedevelopment/support. (And "content updates" seems rather sparse looking in from outside WoW.)

Contrary to popular belief a lot of people are smart enough to ask where the last $12 went...

 

 

We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!!
(repeat ad infinitum)

  monster8me

Novice Member

Joined: 7/19/12
Posts: 16

9/14/12 1:58:08 PM#40
i dont think its the final nail however i hope it does influence some more quality b2p games on down the road
7 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 » Search