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9/14/12 1:21:43 PM#81
I really hope Star Wars would out sell Guild Wars on initial sales.....it's STAR WARS. I think we all know which is the quality game that will have people buying it past the first month, though.
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9/14/12 1:23:43 PM#82
wow oh really? no mames quey
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9/14/12 1:25:36 PM#83
SWTOR had more hype than any game I can remember, it's not a surprise to me that it outsold GW2.
On a side note - SWTOR was a better game too. If GW2 was P2P, you would already be seeing the cancellation of thousands of subs and server merges happening around the first of the year. I want to be Uncle Owen again. |
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9/14/12 1:47:00 PM#84
The use of the brain is required to play guild wars 2 , because that much freedom cannot be process by some of us, they turn out troll on forum crying out load that guild wars 2 is mean and will die from the MMO death Most of those troll cast on left hand MMO-Death and the right hand is for badMMO-revive. They will taunt you with some :"Meh ... you see .... haah "
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9/14/12 1:57:52 PM#85
its my 1st post to this site even i read everyday for some time...i am tired of ppl here try to prove their point with nosense... i play gw2 currently in case everyone thinks i am a swtor fan...but u cant compare their launch .... someone who played both games will know that first days only in europe swtor had 87 servers if i remember correct..and for days all server were full and ppl were waiting also for 1-2 hours to log in...so its simple maths...gw2 has not even half servers...and they hype swtor created its unthikable and its logical cause star wars has many fans....the game ofcourse wasnt as most of ppl expekting but thats different think...and u cant prove a game is better than other game by sales in the end of the day..best game is the one u had most fun and spent most time...mine was lotro...others was wow,eve,aion or ..... |
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9/14/12 1:59:45 PM#86
Originally posted by SuperDonk How is SWTOR the better game? It's so...LIFELESS compared to GW2. |
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9/14/12 2:03:21 PM#87
Originally posted by Souldrainer says the guy without any proof/sources... |
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9/14/12 2:06:31 PM#88
A lot of misinformation here.
SWTOR had over 2 mil preorders for box copies only NOT COUNTING digital sales at all. GW2 will be fine, but if SWTOR was a b2p game do you really think it wouldn't of sold way more ? People spreading false lies saying 2 mil sales is bullshit it was 2 mil active players NOT SALES. |
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9/14/12 2:06:55 PM#89
Originally posted by stratasaurus Sorry, you're right. It went F2P in 8 months... I was using the standard of one year to F2P, but I forgot SWTOR did worse than most games. no GW2 won't kill WoW, but it's time to move on and quit worrying about those people still playing it. - eyelolled |
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Alders
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9/14/12 2:11:23 PM#90
Originally posted by William12
At no point did TOR have 2 million active players. Take your own advice. |
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9/14/12 2:14:10 PM#91
That SWToR sold more boxes in its first week than GW2 is a fact. You can look it up on VGChartz. The interpretation of the numbers does seem right though. SWToR did not achieve the goals set for it by EA or Bioware. GW2 was projected to reach 3 million in sales by the end of the year, and it is two thirds of the way there after 2 weeks. It seems much more likely that GW2 will reach the goals set by Anet than SWToR will ever reach any goals set by EA or Bioware. Join the League For Gamers. |
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9/14/12 2:17:15 PM#92
What's swtor?
Looking at: The Repopulation |
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9/14/12 2:20:10 PM#93
Originally posted by kadepsyson EVE has more subscribers than Cry3 will ever have. |
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9/14/12 2:22:01 PM#94
NBC artcle: Gamers grab 2 million copies of 'Guild Wars 2' despite sales halt
- GW2 sold 2 million copies in 2 weeks ... despite AreaNet suspending first party sales and retail replenishment for 10 days just 2 days after launch .... - began selling the game again earlier this week after deploying new servers in NA and Europe - regularly seeing over 400,000 concurrent
I bet EA wished SWTOR had had such a bad start - oh wait, the OP said that SWTOR did better ...... maybe not .... |
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9/14/12 2:22:27 PM#95
I don't understand the point of this thread, it's just like saying pacman has more subscribers then gw2 will ever have.
Looking at: The Repopulation |
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9/14/12 2:24:22 PM#96
Originally posted by lizardbones Unless you're only counting actual physical boxes, it isn't true. Based only on information given by both companies (EA and Anet, I'll reuse links postes earlier): As of december 26 (6 days after release), TOR had sold 1 million copies: http://www.swtor.com/info/news/press-release/20111226 Anet announced on august 28th (on release day, 3 days after headstart) that they had already sold over 1 million pre-purchases (before release) and that was not counting pre-orders or sales after release http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/08/28/guild-wars-2-hits-400k-concurrent-users-before-launch/ Post launch, TOR announces 2 million units sold 5 weeks after release: Anet announced 2 million units sold 3 weeks after release http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/09/13/guild-wars-2-breaks-the-two-million-sales-mark/ So, based on hard numbers released by the companies themselves, I'd say GW2 indeed sold more than TOR on release. Retention, though, will be harder to judge since TOR is a sub based game while GW2 isn't. What can men do against such reckless hate? |
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9/14/12 2:27:11 PM#97
You guys do know that anet had to delay selling more products at one point right? because it was such a high demand they had to slow down and look how the servers are doing, then add in more servers then open up more releases of the product.
Looking at: The Repopulation |
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9/14/12 2:31:52 PM#98
Originally posted by lizardbones TOR sold more in the first week (1.453 million) compared to GW2 (.902 million), but only sold 311k the second week. VGCharts hasn't submitted second week sales for GW2 yet, but in order to pop over 2 million GW2 would have had to sold around another 1 million copies in the second week. Really they've already outpaced TORs sales graph at the two week point. When you look at other platform sales the MMO market is rather "flash in the pan" and paltry. One thing the B2P model might bring is a broader appeal and larger total sales numbers. That is one feature all the other platforms tout that MMOs haven't really offered much. |
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9/14/12 2:41:00 PM#99
You're doing it wrong. * Limit your data set to only the information that supports your hypothesis. In this case, only the first week's sales are "relevant". * Guess values for a dataset that cannot be confirmed. It's best if you guess a starting number, like a ratio, and then calculate a final set of numbers from the assumed values. This gives your final numbers legitimacy. * Only use logic that supports your hypothesis when connecting the dots between numbers. Also, there's a type in my post. The bit, "the numbers does seem right though" should read, "the numbers doesn't seem right". ** edit ** LOCOman is doing it wrong too. Join the League For Gamers. |
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9/14/12 2:42:06 PM#100
Originally posted by Torvaldr Problem with vgchartz is that they usually don't track digital copies sold by the company itself (which Anet did): " Data-Collection MethodologyAll sales estimates on VGChartz are arrived at via a number of proprietrary and ever-developing methods:
All data is regularly checked against manufacturer shipments and data released publicly from other tracking firms to ensure accuracy. VGChartz holds no responsibility for the use of our data – any business decisions made are made at your own risk. " Source: http://www.vgchartz.com/methodology.php which is why in my prevous post I'm using only data announced by the companies and not VGchartz. What can men do against such reckless hate? |
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