Originally posted by bcbully

It's prety obvious to me that either they are holding back, just did not have the time to make, or were flat out lazy in some respects.

 

Why in the world can't I equip a septer in my off hand, or and ax?  Why can't a put a horn in my main hand? They way things are it's much to ridgid. 

I think they simplified the skill system because they knew in order to appeal to a wider audience they would have to do what WoW does and dumb down the game.

As a Epsort they could be looking at games like LoL. LoL has a similiar  mechanics where you can make small tweaks to give the illusion of developing your hero and allowing the player to feel somewhat different from others. The weapon swapping is a nice touch to give you a feeling of RPG I guess.

I was really surprised it was so different then GW when the skill sytem was one of the best parts of GW.

Originally posted by JeroKane

Originally posted by Loke666

I think the problem will fix itself with an expansion or 2.

Adding more skills and weapons would help, particularly if some skills demands that you have certain points invested in certain trees. Like a thief trickster skill you only could use if you had 30 in the skill.

A new skill to the toolbar at every second of third level wouldnt help me at least. Fewer skills that you need to time is more fun than 100 skills that you just rotate to me at least.

And in many games most of those "new" skills just replaces a lower level skill anyways which is pointless. Take EQ2, you have loads of skills but most of the ones you get post lvl 20 is just an upgrade from a skill you already have and is used a gold/timesink (you buy upgrades for the skills there).

But twice the number of skills to choose between would be nice, and maybe a few new weapons as well. I wouldnt even mind that some new weapon types had a level restriction or forces you to have a certain specc.

The  problem is, by then everyone will have either quit or have max level characters already.

So what then?  Reroll, so you can gain these new skills progressively? Or just get them instantly with no effort on your already max level toons?

 

You cannot release a game with a half finished skill/ability tree, which guild wars 2 exactly feels like to me right now (ability progression stops halfway at lvl40) ! And then think you can fix it with an expansion or two the coming years.

If you release a game with 80 levels, you have to have the full progression in place for these 80 levels!

It just feels like they manage to get to level 40 and ran out of time. /shrug

 

Weird, Weird, and weird...I dont feel like that at all.

Before anyone says anything, yes I play gw1 and yes I play TSW and so on.

However, I love the trait system and to me it gives me the real feeling of progression.

Just by getting one new trait, my play style can change majorly.

Which on other games, getting one new skill almsot never change my play style a lot.

Originally posted by nsignific

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by Yamota
Yeah I agree, after level 40 there is no ability progression left. So the rest of the 40 or so levels will be for what, gear only? Very weak...

Not in a game where gear doesn't matter.  You're supposed to have fun just exploring.

These 2 posts sum up GW2 and win this thread.

 

And for the record: I use most skills my WoW toons have. I can't imagine what sort of terribad player would use only a 1/4 as some here claim.

 

P.S.: I agree that the new MoP "talent" system is garbage and cause for concern for this genre as a whole, especially considering how horrible the GW2 system is combined with it's success - inevitable imitiation.

Agree in all this. There are some spells rearely if at all used in wow, but great majority find its use at least from time to time and THEN one is glad to have them. This is great with wow among other things. Actually main reason i left TSW was when I have reallized it is pure button masher. I did not know when purchased that have only 7 active ablities at once. Seven buttons to press, but one really need actually constantly only 2. Maybe 3. Gw2 here is much better and I enjoying it a lot. 10 keys at apropriate level and one can swap weapons getting 5 additional spells/abilities.