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  PaRoXiTiC

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Posts: 496

9/13/12 8:23:28 PM#41
Originally posted by Maitrader
Originally posted by Ridan477
Yeah 2 mil sales is a real failure. You sir are a crazy person.

2 million sales doesn't mean jack shit. the game is pointless at level 60 - 80, and the pvp battlegrounds is even more pointless. This game was a huge disappointment. What I DID like was the races.... too bad the game from level 60 - 80 is abysmal.

What exactly are you looking for? It is a video game. It is not something to fill a life void. I've been level 80 for the past 40 hours played and I am still having a blast. 

 

World vs World PvP in a structrured group is some of the best PvP I have ever played in an MMO.

  Xzen

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9/13/12 8:25:01 PM#42

/age is 284 hours

 

Still having a blast and almost have my alt to level 80 and I am not an alt-a-holic. I have not even begun to work on creating a legendary weapon, have not completed all of the dungeons in explorer mode, and I have not completed any sets of the dungeon exotic gear sets.

  beej1986

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Joined: 7/11/07
Posts: 75

9/13/12 8:26:57 PM#43
Yep, game failed because you said it did. I see the gravitational force pulling the universe around you as I speak.

CENTER][/CENTER]

  User Deleted
9/13/12 8:29:52 PM#44
Originally posted by eggy08
Originally posted by Grailer
Originally posted by RavingRabbid

Ive been playing for couple days now off and on. While there are some things IMO that leave alot to be desired, I would definently not call this game fail.

***Raving Rabbid is in negotiations to make sure the Plunger is not OP for either ranged or melee. After a demonstation it doesnt look good for keeping it in the game!***

I think the problem is that I have clocked over 100+ hours on this game already .

If I went back to the same amount of hours that you currently have played ( guessing ) I probably thought the game was ok too and not a failure ,  but once you hit the meat / juice of the game you begin to see it's failing which are only obvious if you have played in a high end raiding guild in WOW for example .

Suffice to say the PvE in GW2 is badly done.

 

 

100+ hours in this game? I doubt you have, because then your post makes no sense since you played past the frist few levels. And even if you begrungly pushed your way to do the other levels past the frist few, you still at least got price value of the game. So honestly I don't really see your point. You played past the lifetime of most B2P games, yet your complaining that it was a failure? Contradict yourself more.

Regardless, neither this game nor diablo 3 was a failure. Did diablo 3 fail to keep its playerbase after a period, sure, but they got the money they wanted out of players and players got to play up to inferno and probably played past the lifetime of a typical RPG thats B2P, so IMO thats not failing. So it wasn't what the croud wanted long term, be glad you didn't pay a subscription and get over yourself.

Oh and BTW, if you are basing your financial defecit on this website, your even stupider than you come off as, since the consumer can never blame the buyer for anything unless they failed to deliver on promised specifications, which this game didn't do. Thus, it's your own fault for buying the game and expecting it to be what you hoped it would be, not anyone else. Congrats, you just wasted 50$ and 100 hours if you want to look at it that way. Next time make your own financial decisions instead of following the croud, you got a brain don't you?

I have a brain. After playing the beta I didn't buy release because the game sucks. For whatever reason however, even though nary a damn thing changed in the actual practice of gameplay between beta and release, my opinions posted on this site are denigrated since I didn't buy release, which is foolish. I feel those people are jealous I still have my $60,

 

On the topic of "why shouldn't I follow hype", I submit to you the immortal words of the great philosopher George Carlin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rh6qqsmxNs

  User Deleted
9/13/12 8:33:49 PM#45
Originally posted by Grailer
Originally posted by Ridan477
Yeah 2 mil sales is a real failure. You sir are a crazy person.

 

Was Diablo 3 a failure ?

 

Nope.

  TheIronLegion

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Joined: 9/06/12
Posts: 270

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9/13/12 8:34:55 PM#46
Originally posted by Grailer
Originally posted by Ridan477
Yeah 2 mil sales is a real failure. You sir are a crazy person.

 

Was Diablo 3 a failure ?

wait..wait...I almost took that bait. I just won't even mention the millions of WoW players who bought a year of WoW to get the game. Because that totally wouldn't have contributed to its sales.

  Astralglide

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9/13/12 8:35:49 PM#47
Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Guild Wars 2 is a massive success.

There's no other way to spin that.

That is a solid unarguable fact.

I'm not playing yet, but I agree. Its nice to see a new massively populated and polished MMO.

A witty saying proves nothing.
-Voltaire

  User Deleted
9/13/12 8:37:11 PM#48
Originally posted by Kaelano1
Originally posted by eggy08
Originally posted by Grailer
Originally posted by RavingRabbid

Ive been playing for couple days now off and on. While there are some things IMO that leave alot to be desired, I would definently not call this game fail.

***Raving Rabbid is in negotiations to make sure the Plunger is not OP for either ranged or melee. After a demonstation it doesnt look good for keeping it in the game!***

I think the problem is that I have clocked over 100+ hours on this game already .

If I went back to the same amount of hours that you currently have played ( guessing ) I probably thought the game was ok too and not a failure ,  but once you hit the meat / juice of the game you begin to see it's failing which are only obvious if you have played in a high end raiding guild in WOW for example .

Suffice to say the PvE in GW2 is badly done.

 

 

100+ hours in this game? I doubt you have, because then your post makes no sense since you played past the frist few levels. And even if you begrungly pushed your way to do the other levels past the frist few, you still at least got price value of the game. So honestly I don't really see your point. You played past the lifetime of most B2P games, yet your complaining that it was a failure? Contradict yourself more.

Regardless, neither this game nor diablo 3 was a failure. Did diablo 3 fail to keep its playerbase after a period, sure, but they got the money they wanted out of players and players got to play up to inferno and probably played past the lifetime of a typical RPG thats B2P, so IMO thats not failing. So it wasn't what the croud wanted long term, be glad you didn't pay a subscription and get over yourself.

Oh and BTW, if you are basing your financial defecit on this website, your even stupider than you come off as, since the consumer can never blame the buyer for anything unless they failed to deliver on promised specifications, which this game didn't do. Thus, it's your own fault for buying the game and expecting it to be what you hoped it would be, not anyone else. Congrats, you just wasted 50$ and 100 hours if you want to look at it that way. Next time make your own financial decisions instead of following the croud, you got a brain don't you?

I have a brain. After playing the beta I didn't buy release because the game sucks. For whatever reason however, even though nary a damn thing changed in the actual practice of gameplay between beta and release, my opinions posted on this site are denigrated since I didn't buy release, which is foolish. I feel those people are jealous I still have my $60,

 

On the topic of "why shouldn't I follow hype", I submit to you the immortal words of the great philosopher George Carlin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rh6qqsmxNs

Ok, you didn't buy the game, and you didn't like it. That proves my point that the OP clearly doesn't realize that his wallet isn't in our hands and that we didn't sell him the game, he just heard what he wanted then got disappointed, plain and simple. Again, you all use the word "hype" but clearly don't know what it means. Hype is by far the only word that people who hate the game love to use besides fanbois. But we didn't tell you things that weren't in the game, thus the game was widely advertised and talked about, but there was no hype, Features in the game that were promised are in the game, so hype isn't the right word. Maybe try popular if you want. Regardless, OP has no free will clearly and thus cannot make a decision without his hand held as he's doing it.

  User Deleted
9/13/12 8:40:02 PM#49
Originally posted by TheIronLegion
Originally posted by Grailer
Originally posted by Ridan477
Yeah 2 mil sales is a real failure. You sir are a crazy person.

 

Was Diablo 3 a failure ?

wait..wait...I almost took that bait. I just won't even mention the millions of WoW players who bought a year of WoW to get the game. Because that totally wouldn't have contributed to its sales.

Honestly, I got face value out of D3. Was I disappointed with end game in that, sure. But to be fair, D2 had no real end game, so why should I expect D3 to fill that gap perfectly. It paid us for its B2P model, and I might hate the company for lying about difficulty and honestly messing up the game for stupid things, but I won't say the game didn't suffice in the buying price. Thus as a B2P, it wasn't a failure to most. OP is just butt hurt.

  SirFubar

Novice Member

Joined: 7/21/11
Posts: 403

9/13/12 8:40:10 PM#50
Originally posted by Grailer

Wow what is going on with game makers these days ?

 

Why do they keep making games that are fun for a few levels then run out of juice before the end ?

 

I just hope that EQ3 is going to have a better end game than this failed game .  So disappointing , so much hype and yet just another wannabe wow clone that falled short .

Yeah I know. Dota 2 is another fail wow clone MMO.

  sumdumguy1

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/20/11
Posts: 715

9/13/12 8:42:09 PM#51
So the point of this thread wasn't to bash the game and create a war of words, yet looked what happened.  Far too often these types of threads bring out the worst of the community.  Why is it so hard to keep one ego in check?
  TheIronLegion

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Joined: 9/06/12
Posts: 270

Act with wisdom, but act.

9/13/12 8:47:00 PM#52
Originally posted by Kaelano1
Originally posted by eggy08
Originally posted by Grailer
Originally posted by RavingRabbid

Ive been playing for couple days now off and on. While there are some things IMO that leave alot to be desired, I would definently not call this game fail.

***Raving Rabbid is in negotiations to make sure the Plunger is not OP for either ranged or melee. After a demonstation it doesnt look good for keeping it in the game!***

I think the problem is that I have clocked over 100+ hours on this game already .

If I went back to the same amount of hours that you currently have played ( guessing ) I probably thought the game was ok too and not a failure ,  but once you hit the meat / juice of the game you begin to see it's failing which are only obvious if you have played in a high end raiding guild in WOW for example .

Suffice to say the PvE in GW2 is badly done.

 

 

100+ hours in this game? I doubt you have, because then your post makes no sense since you played past the frist few levels. And even if you begrungly pushed your way to do the other levels past the frist few, you still at least got price value of the game. So honestly I don't really see your point. You played past the lifetime of most B2P games, yet your complaining that it was a failure? Contradict yourself more.

Regardless, neither this game nor diablo 3 was a failure. Did diablo 3 fail to keep its playerbase after a period, sure, but they got the money they wanted out of players and players got to play up to inferno and probably played past the lifetime of a typical RPG thats B2P, so IMO thats not failing. So it wasn't what the croud wanted long term, be glad you didn't pay a subscription and get over yourself.

Oh and BTW, if you are basing your financial defecit on this website, your even stupider than you come off as, since the consumer can never blame the buyer for anything unless they failed to deliver on promised specifications, which this game didn't do. Thus, it's your own fault for buying the game and expecting it to be what you hoped it would be, not anyone else. Congrats, you just wasted 50$ and 100 hours if you want to look at it that way. Next time make your own financial decisions instead of following the croud, you got a brain don't you?

I have a brain. After playing the beta I didn't buy release because the game sucks. For whatever reason however, even though nary a damn thing changed in the actual practice of gameplay between beta and release, my opinions posted on this site are denigrated since I didn't buy release, which is foolish. I feel those people are jealous I still have my $60,

 

On the topic of "why shouldn't I follow hype", I submit to you the immortal words of the great philosopher George Carlin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rh6qqsmxNs

So you don't like the game. I guess that means that everyone else who does like it is stupid and are jealous that you still have 60 dollars that you will no doubt waste on some other disappointment...

You may not like it, ok. Thats acceptable. Atleast I won't have the displeasure of playing with you, but no need to insult poeple. I'm sure if I lurked around the forums for your favorite game and said the same thing you'd be fairly upset. Even if it wasn't directed solely at you.

"People who like this bland game are, in the words of Niki Minaj, stupid stupid. Yall must be jelly that I don't enjoy you game and now have nothing to play because no game will ever satisfy me!" Geez you sound like my aunt who thought no man could please her.....until she met my uncle. Seems everyone is proven wrong at some point.

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 3870

9/13/12 8:47:20 PM#53
Originally posted by Maitrader
Originally posted by Ridan477
Yeah 2 mil sales is a real failure. You sir are a crazy person.

2 million sales doesn't mean jack shit. the game is pointless at level 60 - 80, and the pvp battlegrounds is even more pointless. This game was a huge disappointment. What I DID like was the races.... too bad the game from level 60 - 80 is abysmal.

You may need some guidance. Here is a short article you may want to read. GW2 isn't about just getting to level 80 as many folks have said. There is so much to do, and not to beat a dead horse again, but you can't play this like WoW. 

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  gtompkins48

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Joined: 11/15/11
Posts: 14

9/13/12 8:48:24 PM#54

The game is such a failure that almost every server is high pop.

/facepalm

Most people bitching about GW2 are either butthurt fans of other games or MMO vets who trash talk EVERY game because they are looking for a replacement for their shitty lives and not just a fun game to play. 

  Kuinn

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Posts: 1996

9/13/12 8:51:03 PM#55
Originally posted by Grailer

If I went back to the same amount of hours that you currently have played ( guessing ) I probably thought the game was ok too and not a failure ,  but once you hit the meat / juice of the game you begin to see it's failing which are only obvious if you have played in a high end raiding guild in WOW for example .

Suffice to say the PvE in GW2 is badly done.

 

 

This game never was going to have WoW style end game raiding, a person must be a complete idiot to buy the game and expect that, considering even the devs have said there's no WoW endgame here to be had.

 

And thank god it's not there, if something ruins a MMOrpg it's these isolated instanced dungeons where only a small group grinds them for gear two months just to grind the next one, and next one, and next one... The most pointless "end game" that players are being forced and brainwashed to do... Why create a huge open world and then stuck people into these small holes for the rest of the days.

  Amjoco

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Posts: 3870

9/13/12 8:53:38 PM#56
Originally posted by gtompkins48

The game is such a failure that almost every server is high pop.

/facepalm

Most people bitching about GW2 are either butthurt fans of other games or MMO vets who trash talk EVERY game because they are looking for a replacement for their shitty lives and not just a fun game to play. 

I thought they might think you a liar so I just grabbed this. Everywhere I go in the huge world there is someone else enjoying themselves. The OP has his own opinion, but hundreds of thousands of folks would disagree. :)

edit: added SS

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  TheIronLegion

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/06/12
Posts: 270

Act with wisdom, but act.

9/13/12 8:57:36 PM#57
Originally posted by gtompkins48

The game is such a failure that almost every server is high pop.

/facepalm

Most people bitching about GW2 are either butthurt fans of other games or MMO vets who trash talk EVERY game because they are looking for a replacement for their shitty lives and not just a fun game to play. 

I agree, though the "shitty lives" part could have been omitted and replaced with "shitty older games". Like the guys that cling to EQ1 or UO or WAR, etc. I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news, but those games are not this game and if you enjoyed them so much why don't you just play them instead of looking for something exactly like it with prettier colours. Get all your close friends together and play it from time to time. It doesn't have to be your main MMO, but it may be nice to delve back into that nastalgic scenery again to get those feelings out. Though I've found that going back to older games from a newer one tends to bring it's short comings to light. People talk about these older games as if they were the same exact thing as todays games, with better features, better mechanics, better systems, better server populations, and overall just better games.

If you want a good example of this play GW2 and then go back and play GW1. Then you'll realize how even basic features that are missing will stand out. Like not being able to jump, or no global/cross-server market system, no open world. Even minor things like not being able to rebind certain keys, or the camera not being as intelligent, having to click on an NPC as apposed to just pressing F(or tab in my case) when you're next to them. Then you realize. Oh yeah, I remember these games! They were great...in their day. But now they're old and it's time for them to retire.

  xevanon

Novice Member

Joined: 2/26/09
Posts: 73

9/13/12 8:59:14 PM#58
it'\s so funny how the people feel the needs to go on a website bashing great games that doesn't suits their craves..
  kartool

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/23/07
Posts: 462

9/13/12 9:06:33 PM#59
Originally posted by Leethe
Originally posted by jadan2000
as with all games, time will tell. they say they have 2 million subs already. lets see what happends in 6-8 months.

Yes, I'm sure subs will drop and it will go F2P...

/facepalm

That's the beauty of the b2p model. They only ever have to announce sales.

  User Deleted
9/13/12 9:08:32 PM#60
Originally posted by TheIronLegion
Originally posted by Kaelano1
Originally posted by eggy08
Originally posted by Grailer
Originally posted by RavingRabbid

Ive been playing for couple days now off and on. While there are some things IMO that leave alot to be desired, I would definently not call this game fail.

***Raving Rabbid is in negotiations to make sure the Plunger is not OP for either ranged or melee. After a demonstation it doesnt look good for keeping it in the game!***

I think the problem is that I have clocked over 100+ hours on this game already .

If I went back to the same amount of hours that you currently have played ( guessing ) I probably thought the game was ok too and not a failure ,  but once you hit the meat / juice of the game you begin to see it's failing which are only obvious if you have played in a high end raiding guild in WOW for example .

Suffice to say the PvE in GW2 is badly done.

 

 

100+ hours in this game? I doubt you have, because then your post makes no sense since you played past the frist few levels. And even if you begrungly pushed your way to do the other levels past the frist few, you still at least got price value of the game. So honestly I don't really see your point. You played past the lifetime of most B2P games, yet your complaining that it was a failure? Contradict yourself more.

Regardless, neither this game nor diablo 3 was a failure. Did diablo 3 fail to keep its playerbase after a period, sure, but they got the money they wanted out of players and players got to play up to inferno and probably played past the lifetime of a typical RPG thats B2P, so IMO thats not failing. So it wasn't what the croud wanted long term, be glad you didn't pay a subscription and get over yourself.

Oh and BTW, if you are basing your financial defecit on this website, your even stupider than you come off as, since the consumer can never blame the buyer for anything unless they failed to deliver on promised specifications, which this game didn't do. Thus, it's your own fault for buying the game and expecting it to be what you hoped it would be, not anyone else. Congrats, you just wasted 50$ and 100 hours if you want to look at it that way. Next time make your own financial decisions instead of following the croud, you got a brain don't you?

I have a brain. After playing the beta I didn't buy release because the game sucks. For whatever reason however, even though nary a damn thing changed in the actual practice of gameplay between beta and release, my opinions posted on this site are denigrated since I didn't buy release, which is foolish. I feel those people are jealous I still have my $60,

 

On the topic of "why shouldn't I follow hype", I submit to you the immortal words of the great philosopher George Carlin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rh6qqsmxNs

So you don't like the game. I guess that means that everyone else who does like it is stupid and are jealous that you still have 60 dollars that you will no doubt waste on some other disappointment...

You may not like it, ok. Thats acceptable. Atleast I won't have the displeasure of playing with you, but no need to insult poeple. I'm sure if I lurked around the forums for your favorite game and said the same thing you'd be fairly upset. Even if it wasn't directed solely at you.

"People who like this bland game are, in the words of Niki Minaj, stupid stupid. Yall must be jelly that I don't enjoy you game and now have nothing to play because no game will ever satisfy me!" Geez you sound like my aunt who thought no man could please her.....until she met my uncle. Seems everyone is proven wrong at some point.

I really wouldn't care what you said because you reference "gangnam style", "Niki Minaj" and lied and said I insulted people for liking GW2. Clearly I said not to "follow hype because people are stupid".  You put the rest of the 2+3=6 together.

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