Originally posted by tomwodi
childrens dont know what grind is. go and play L2 and you will see a good example of grind.
Quest is not grind, craft is not grind (lol dudes?).

That new generation of players... Dear god..

If you can see your progress bar move after completing a task.....you aren't grinding.

LOL, I remember putting my cursor point pixel right on the bar line just to see if there was any measureable changes before and after.

Originally posted by CassSmith
From what I can see there isnt much grind *until* you get to making a legendary which seems it will be very grindy farming wise.

Yes around 200 hours of resource gathering.

I don't believe GW2 got rid of grind they just modified it by removing gear grind based on dungeons. But for those who want to climb ladders for tiers of armor, grind is there for them.

all games have a grind, it is just a matter of how well they disquise it and how many options they offer to make it enjoyable.  That is where GW2 has moved the bar forward. I can never again go back to the quest hub oriented bring 5 bear testicle games again. I am satil gatehr ing bear testicles if I want but  it at least gives me an option to clean up bear poop or get notebooks off mauled and dead researchers that were studying the mating habits of bears the same quest

GW2 offers options and choice is always a good thing in a game

I grinded the shit out of Diablo 1 to get the best LOOT. Any game that has a LOOT/cosmetic based system will have a grind some where,but the level grind..not really feeling it my self...the player makes it a grind IMO.

Im only level 40 atm,and still really enjoying the DEs,and ya some times they can get repetitiave,but you know what its a lot of fun when you get distracted from what you were GOING to do because a DE is going on and you see a bunch of players running around,and you decide to join in.

but honestly like the TSW, guild wars 2 went away from the mold a bit, and people dont like it. Why? well imo because you have to relearn mechanics and all the nEW things they did a bit different. And I was one of em, when i first played TSW I could not stand it, the mission system was confusing , and so were a lot of the other mechanics,same with GW2 and the skill swapping and DEs. but after about an hour or 2 in both games I got really into them , and a blast to play.

Originally posted by Leethe

So have they taken the grind out of the picture?

The answer is yes, and no.

and...

 

While Guild Wars 2 isn’t completely grind free, it’s the first MMO I’ve played that doesn’t force the player to go through painful and mind numbing tasks.  Just be giving the player options, they achieved a lot.

None of you actually read this bit at all, did you?

The ones that have a bias against the game, read just what they want to read.  So no....they didn't read that part.  Instead they just chimed in whining about grind.  Go figure.  Oooo whaaaa....I have to kill moar mobs.  Oooo whaaaaa....I have to get moar points.

I'm so sick of it.  (The whining, that is.)

the grind is not gone, its just hidden a bit. I already prefer this questing system over the old style of questing. I havent had this much fun in an mmo since the last time i played WoW early this year.

Thats just me.