Originally posted by Anubisan

This is something I have always worried about when it comes to this game. There simply is no reason to group up or interact with those around you other than to join them in zergs completing dynamic events. Communication is simply not required for 90% of the activities in game. I have long thought that this could lead to a virtually non-existant community.

Indeed this does seem to be happening already... I rarely ever see anyone talking in map chat unless they are talking smack to each other for fun or asking how to complete a POI or other map objective.

I have to say I find this rather troubling as an MMO with no real community will have very little lasting appeal to many players such as myself. There is little reason to play an MMORPG over a single player game if you don't socialize.

A different kind of community is not the same as "no real community".  Just because you don't have any reason to play an MMOG unless there is chatty socialization going on with strangers doesn't mean most players feel the same way, and just because you don't understand or agree with their motivation for playing and enjoying an MMOG doesn't mean their motivation and playstyle is wrong or non-profitable.

Ive never had a problem with finding people to talk to though.  Just a few nights ago, there was a great discussion about the pros and cons of getting a vasectomy!  This was in Jade Quarry Queensdale! Or wait was it Gendarren Fields...Either of those!

This is the reason I have all chat except guild chat turned off, and have always had it turned off in every game that let me.

Originally posted by Indrome

Originally posted by RizelStar

Originally posted by compoundcut

Originally posted by Leethe
Honestly? Theere just isn't time between ressing, running, healing, buffing and laying down combo fields. For a game that has no community I sure get a lot of thankyous when I save some guys bacon. During some of the DEs tonight, when a boss spawned, a player turned to me and said "We doin this?" and I was like  "Hell yeah!" and that was it. Nothing else needed to be said because we were were back to back all the way to the end. I seem to spend more time playing like I'm on a team than I do looking or sounding like I am. 

This ^

This as well lol

This. Because: Silent synergy > unnecessary communication.

Or to put it with a quote from my asura: "Such synergy!"

Silent Synergy? Really? The only thing "silent" here, is the implcation (once again) that people aren't playing the game right. I just don't understand the GW2 fan mentality. One day, you agrue for the game for "us casuals" the next day it's "silent synergy"? It'sGW2, not Asto Physics. Communication isn't needed because GW2 is in fact easy. I'm not bashing the game, some of the most fun games I've played were simple, but stop making GW2 something ti's not

On Ehmry Bay I have noticed the chat almost ALWAYS going on and on.  I must have joined a server of really social people.  I can also ask a question in chat and get an almost immediate answer.  It's very friendly and talkative, so....I'm assuming this is a server-specific problem.

Oh, I'm also in a guild that's pretty social, so I'm looking at a couple of different types of chat going on almost all the time.  Also, I get in conversations just out in the environment sometimes.  One gal showed me where to get a shark pet. :)

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by Indrome

Originally posted by RizelStar

Originally posted by compoundcut

Originally posted by Leethe
Honestly? Theere just isn't time between ressing, running, healing, buffing and laying down combo fields. For a game that has no community I sure get a lot of thankyous when I save some guys bacon. During some of the DEs tonight, when a boss spawned, a player turned to me and said "We doin this?" and I was like  "Hell yeah!" and that was it. Nothing else needed to be said because we were were back to back all the way to the end. I seem to spend more time playing like I'm on a team than I do looking or sounding like I am. 

This ^

This as well lol

This. Because: Silent synergy > unnecessary communication.

Or to put it with a quote from my asura: "Such synergy!"

Silent Synergy? Really? The only thing "silent" here, is the implcation (once again) that people aren't playing the game right. I just don't understand the GW2 fan mentality. One day, you agrue for the game for "us casuals" the next day it's "silent synergy"? It'sGW2, not Asto Physics. Communication isn't needed because GW2 is in fact easy. I'm not bashing the game, some of the most fun games I've played were simple, but stop making GW2 something ti's not

 

Should I say it?

....This? ^^^^

Originally posted by Meleagar

Originally posted by Anubisan

This is something I have always worried about when it comes to this game. There simply is no reason to group up or interact with those around you other than to join them in zergs completing dynamic events. Communication is simply not required for 90% of the activities in game. I have long thought that this could lead to a virtually non-existant community.

Indeed this does seem to be happening already... I rarely ever see anyone talking in map chat unless they are talking smack to each other for fun or asking how to complete a POI or other map objective.

I have to say I find this rather troubling as an MMO with no real community will have very little lasting appeal to many players such as myself. There is little reason to play an MMORPG over a single player game if you don't socialize.

A different kind of community is not the same as "no real community".  Just because you don't have any reason to play an MMOG unless there is chatty socialization going on with strangers doesn't mean most players feel the same way, and just because you don't understand or agree with their motivation for playing and enjoying an MMOG doesn't mean their motivation and playstyle is wrong or non-profitable.

I never said that this would apply to everyone. I only said that it would provide very little lasting appeal to many players such as myself. I have always played MMORPGs to interact with other players. Without that CRUCIAL element, an MMORPG will not endure FOR ME. I am not alone by any means. While the game may entertain me for a time, it will not hold me for years (as other MMOs have) without the social element.

Unless this dynamic is changed somehow, I predict that many others will begin to feel the lack of community engagement and will burn out on this MMO much more quickly than they otherwise would.

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Originally posted by DMKano
There is simply not much reason to communicate - most of the PvE content is easily solable, you don't have to group for DEs, the entire game is based around action, action, action - and it simply leaves no reason nor room for folks to chat for anything outside of dungeon groups and PVP groups.

 

Slower paced combat games like Eq1 had a ton of group content and plenty of time to just chat.

Gw2 is not that type of game.

Still waiting for next EQ1 here - will probably never happen, but I am still hopeful. 

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this ^

is soe still making everquest next? o think that's your only hope right now.

Originally posted by baphamet

 

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Originally posted by DMKano
There is simply not much reason to communicate - most of the PvE content is easily solable, you don't have to group for DEs, the entire game is based around action, action, action - and it simply leaves no reason nor room for folks to chat for anything outside of dungeon groups and PVP groups.

 

 

Slower paced combat games like Eq1 had a ton of group content and plenty of time to just chat.

Gw2 is not that type of game.

Still waiting for next EQ1 here - will probably never happen, but I am still hopeful. 

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this ^

is soe still making everquest next? o think that's your only hope right now.

SOE has designed some really great MMOs. But then they turn around and wreck them later on.

Originally posted by grapevine
I assumed the game had great AI.  Didn't realise it was other players.   ;)

LOL, based on the law of averages......never mind, I won't go there.

I was once told most of communication is done through our actions not through our mouth. I believe GW2 is one of the first games I've played that has made me realize this has actually started online. Why talk to someone when you know what they are going to do based on their actions. Theres a big circle around a caravan, everyone is there to protect it. Theres a mini boss in a DE event everyone knows to attack it. There is someone on the ground that needs to be ressed, someone is going to res you.

It's pretty cool actually. Yesterday I went off on a tangent to explore with my ranger, I had an elementalist tag with me and help me out. It seemed like the two of us were partying, helping each other and targetting each others mobs. Now in other MMO's that would be ksing and we'd be pissed at each other.

There has never been a game like this.

Originally posted by Meleagar

Ive never had a problem with finding people to talk to though.  Just a few nights ago, there was a great discussion about the pros and cons of getting a vasectomy!  This was in Jade Quarry Queensdale! Or wait was it Gendarren Fields...Either of those!

 This is the reason I have all chat except guild chat turned off, and have always had it turned off in every game that let me.

You people need to choose something: either you talk to strangers and don't complain about topics they choose or you turn off all public chats and don't complain about the lack of in-game conversations.

Originally posted by adam_nox
there had been a lot of chat on tarnished coast, but it's diminished significantly the last week. 

i dunno, people still chatting away in the areas im in (60-70s areas).

Simple, text chat is so 80s was, you wanna play and textchatting is to slow to use imo if you dont want to use acronyms all the time. so if i want to chat at the same time i play i use voicechat.

And when ppl chat in general chat regardless of game ppl always use same channel for everything meaning its a pain in the behind to read what specifik people are saying.

And if your in a party you are often goal oriented you want to maximmazie the time together, and again if you want to chat use voicechat , simpler more fun and social to me.