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General Discussion  » So how is the DE-HYPE phase going?

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  TwoThreeFour

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9/11/12 7:39:35 AM#201
Originally posted by Vesavius
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by Vesavius
Originally posted by Metentso
Please chose...

 

What I will say about the results so far, that show under 20% have failed to at *least* have their expectations met, is that, judging by the extremely hostile and critical negative tone of this forum a lot of the time towards the title, that 20% must be posting hard and often...

It's always interesting how a minority, who we even assume are actually playing the game and not just grinding an axe trolling or whatever else, can skew the surface reality of what's really happening on a forum.

What if people had low expecations and those expactations were met, that says more about how cynical a person is rather than how good the game is.

 

Sure, that's one way of seeing it and explaining the imbalance.

Another would be that the negative threads are created, bumped, and dominated by a vocal minority that include a number of agendas alongside those that simply don't like the game (which is valid).

The beauty of the situation is that we don't have to choose to believe in either until conclusive actual proof shows one or the other being correct. I would say just keeping an open mind for different possibilities would be enough. 

  J_Hurry

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Joined: 8/16/05
Posts: 234

9/11/12 7:40:44 AM#202

 Went with "better than expected" simply because of the astounding artwork / visuals, especially the epic scale of the cities. I really enjoy the ambience above all.

Crafting is enjoyable as Artificer.

My dungeoneering experiences have been decent.

W3 has its moments but doesn't hold a candle to DAoC RvR.

Meh, I'm still having fun @ lvl 80. Actually been logging into this more than the trainwreck Planetside 2 beta.

 

  Vesavius

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Joined: 3/08/04
Posts: 7194

Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this.

9/11/12 7:43:17 AM#203
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by Vesavius
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by Vesavius
Originally posted by Metentso
Please chose...

 

What I will say about the results so far, that show under 20% have failed to at *least* have their expectations met, is that, judging by the extremely hostile and critical negative tone of this forum a lot of the time towards the title, that 20% must be posting hard and often...

It's always interesting how a minority, who we even assume are actually playing the game and not just grinding an axe trolling or whatever else, can skew the surface reality of what's really happening on a forum.

What if people had low expecations and those expactations were met, that says more about how cynical a person is rather than how good the game is.

 

Sure, that's one way of seeing it and explaining the imbalance.

Another would be that the negative threads are created, bumped, and dominated by a vocal minority that include a number of agendas alongside those that simply don't like the game (which is valid).

The beauty of the situation is that we don't have to choose to believe in either until conclusive actual proof shows one or the other being correct. I would say just keeping an open mind for different possibilities would be enough. 

 

Sure, I agree, but as in life in general, not all possibilities are equal in likelihood.

  TeknoBug

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Joined: 10/13/07
Posts: 2166

9/11/12 8:46:14 AM#204


Originally posted by Lyvean

Originally posted by sookster54  

Originally posted by Lyvean What I hate about MMOs, and GW 2 is guilty as well, is that they do not let me customize my character how I want it.    I can't make him ugly, I can't make him fat, I can't make him scarred, I can't make him different. Instead, I have the developer deciding how I must look, with little variety, which is... shitty. Also, GW 2 has very little armor and clothes variety, which is sad. I also can't understand why I can't find a hood. I'm a ranger and I want to wear to hood. I'm flucking cliched like that. Why on earth is it so difficult to find one? Are hoods treasured possessions in Tyria, gaurded by Kralkatorrik himself?  Tell me how I can find a hood and I will play this game forever!  As for the dehype, give it time, it's still early yet. But these first weeks have been undoubtely... epic.
I think those days are over for being able to customze your character, the last game with that was City of Heroes and it's closing in November.   Basically the same goes in FPS games, modding is gone (unless Valve releases Half-Life 3 with moding). I used to spend lots of time in modded BF1942 and CoD matches, can't do that anymore in newer games.
Alright, I don't want full freedom. But not even allow us to be ugly? Or scarred? Or putting on a hood?

Shitty design choices that allow for copy cat characters. That's backwards thinking that I can't tolerate. 

Fortunately the rest of the game is pretty awesome.

 



Yes things do seem to be going backwards in the gaming world, you used to even be able to choose where you started your character rather than a designated zone. I also forgot to mention that the number of players per server in FPS games has dropped too, I used to play games that had 64-128 player servers, now we're seeing 12-18 and sometimes 24 player servers. At least in GW2 you can participate in 100+ player world vs world battles and not lag (unlike in SWTOR where lag happened with 16-20 players in the area).


  Centhan

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Joined: 2/17/04
Posts: 485

9/11/12 9:32:48 AM#205

Been playing it quite a bit myself.  Made it to 80 a few days ago with my mesmer, and have been loving it.  I'm certainly not one to rush to max level because levels are meaningless to me, but you can't help but level so quickly in this game.  EVERYTHING you do gives you experience.

I started off playing PvE, but enjoy WvW so much, I really haven't touched PvE significantly since maybe level 40.  To be honest, unfortunately I see no reason to do PvE because you level so fast in WvW you outlevel everything.  Yes I KNOW that's not supposed to happen in this game, but that's the perception I get.  I may go back and do the PvE things I missed with an alt, which I'm working very slowly with a guardian (enginner will probably be next).  As of this posting, I see I have 1879 WvW kills in my achievements.  I know I'm playing WvW WAY too much.

  Betaguy

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Joined: 12/31/04
Posts: 2634

Some folks are like Slinkies, totally useless but great fun to watch when pushed down stairs

9/11/12 10:47:29 AM#206
I seen it as the same trash on the market, so, I leveled a couple toons to cap and then logged out... Not going back, game is about as bad as GW1, just marginally better. I will rest till MoP comes out... might as well put my time into something I already spent 7 wasted years playing.

  Wickedjelly

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Joined: 4/19/09
Posts: 5064

The Dude abides

9/11/12 10:50:53 AM#207
Originally posted by Betaguy
... might as well put my time into something I already spent 7 wasted years playing.

 If that is really how you feel then why bother? Why not do something else?

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Betaguy

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Joined: 12/31/04
Posts: 2634

Some folks are like Slinkies, totally useless but great fun to watch when pushed down stairs

9/11/12 10:52:12 AM#208
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Betaguy
... might as well put my time into something I already spent 7 wasted years playing.

 If that is really how you feel then why bother? Why not do something else?

suggestions?

  Wickedjelly

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Joined: 4/19/09
Posts: 5064

The Dude abides

9/11/12 10:59:01 AM#209
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Betaguy
... might as well put my time into something I already spent 7 wasted years playing.

 If that is really how you feel then why bother? Why not do something else?

suggestions?

 Plenty of other hobbies out there. Doesn't seem to me you've enjoyed yourself in any game as of late and seems silly to play something because you already wasted seven years playing it.

Even with games there are so many out now worth trying outside mmos. Nothing wrong with taking a break. Not like mmos are going anywhere.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  jym_nils

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Joined: 7/26/12
Posts: 10

9/11/12 1:16:33 PM#210
Originally posted by Metentso
Please chose...

first of all you shoud ask what where your spectations, then your question

  loulaki

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Joined: 12/20/11
Posts: 810

9/12/12 5:28:05 AM#211
Originally posted by Betaguy
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by Betaguy
... might as well put my time into something I already spent 7 wasted years playing.

 If that is really how you feel then why bother? Why not do something else?

suggestions?

you are begging to read "get a life" xD

  SNowie007

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Joined: 2/05/05
Posts: 2

9/12/12 5:55:28 AM#212

I'm bored of the game already and I'm just under level 40.

The combat is weird, with my (shortbow) hunter i can just hit 1 and watch my pet tank everything as I'm automatically killing it. The other skills do basically nothing worth using them (well except occasional heal), with longbow one has to be a bit more involved, but not by much.

The story is boring and predictable (asura) and I don't care about it anymore.

The events are mostly huge zergfests, where my "1" tactic works like a charm.

The areas are just rectangles full of checkboxes - vistas, POIs and extra skillpoints lack the appeal after a while and I do them just to satisfy my OCD before continuing. On top of that parts of the world (especially large cities) serve only one purpose - POI placement.

Disappointment and I don't understand the hype around it.

  Icewhite

Made History

Joined: 7/11/11
Posts: 6495

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

9/12/12 6:10:12 AM#213

My t-shirts are selling like freakin' hotcakes.  Keep up the determination, win at any cost!!

Go fans go!  Your game must triumph!

Hmm...mushroom cloud front, "Pyrrhic Victor" on the back?

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  KhinRunite

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Joined: 11/05/10
Posts: 897

9/12/12 7:30:22 AM#214
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by KhinRunite
Originally posted by Sylvarii
Originally posted by loulaki

well the only negative for the game is the community here, with all this pessimistic mood.

the game is awesome, and at the moment its the only which relax me .

No one is forcing you to come to this site,are they? If you want a forum that only says nice things about gw2 and ignores the flaws in the game then go and find one.

It's the mood. It's not about denying the flaws of the game. Posts that express constructive criticism are rare around here. Also, threads that are not burning hot with flamebaiting almost never get momentum, unless one random guy pops up and starts forum PvP. I'm not only talking about the GW2 subforum.

But you're correct. No one is forcing anyone to stick around here. Initially I did because the site covers a wide array of games; also I like the color scheme.

 

Whether or not something is constructive criticism, strongly depends on the intention of the critic. How are you able to know for sure what the intention is and thus seperate constructive criticism from other forms of criticism?

As if intentions get across clearly around here, otherwise we wouldn't have long threads that circle back and never end, and new threads that degenerate to where the previous threads have gone. They mostly devolve to insults.

It's not in the intention, rather in the presentation. If everyone around here would only be responsible for what they post, criticism or praise, our forum wouldn't feel like it does now.

  emperorwings

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9/12/12 7:32:50 AM#215
I got stuck in one of the armor things that got built in a d/e and had to wait til it got brought to life but I got my vengance as it ended up dead.

This isn't a signature, you just think it is.

  Dfix

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9/12/12 7:43:41 AM#216
Originally posted by Icewhite

My t-shirts are selling like freakin' hotcakes.  Keep up the determination, win at any cost!!

Go fans go!  Your game must triumph!

Hmm...mushroom cloud front, "Pyrrhic Victor" on the back?

Vivik-Cerberus

  Tekaelon

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Posts: 477

9/12/12 8:17:10 AM#217
Te game has definitely exceeded my expectations!  GW2 is a deep cohesive world that rewards you for taking the time to look around. Is both a great story and sandbox. 
  Icewhite

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Pink, it's like red but not quite.

9/12/12 8:25:41 AM#218
Originally posted by Dfix

The point, it has eluded you.

 

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Sidad

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9/12/12 8:49:47 AM#219
Well GW 2 delivered what I paid for and more. Compared to other MMOs so far GW 2 is far above others. I can finally be entertained and have fun playing game without having to work hard (brainless grind) just to "have fun" in the end game content. All Anet has to do now is keep up good work and add more fun content like guild vs guild maybe duels and so on.
  gwei1984

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9/12/12 9:33:09 AM#220

Well, i'm in my mid thirties now with my thief, but cant get any motivation to log in right now.

PvE aka Hearts and DE are repetative, boring and in my opinion just too easy. Just steamroll everything with a zerg and get the loot is not my term of having fun in an mmorpg.

WvW is nothing but an endless queue, dont have time for that. If you get in, it can be fun though.

Dungeons are a big mess and just not well done, if i take the opinion of my guildmates seriously. So there is not a large motivation to see them as fast as possible.

Sooo the only thing is SPvP. But the maps are quite similar and in random games you normally get "Flame Wars 2" after 5 minutes, everybody yelling at each other, accusing everyone else to be a loser and noob and leaving afterwards. But i guess, thats just the usual free-to-play clients, see LoL.

Im quite disappointed right now.

Hodor!

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