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9/10/12 6:09:43 PM#81
Originally posted by eggy08 Lol dear god in heaven that would suck. If we end up with one of those now I'm blaming you. Then again maybe we would fight the dragon underwater on a sub! Yeah! 1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical. 2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself. 3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose. |
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9/10/12 6:13:08 PM#82
Originally posted by aesperus Uh, nope. Get it while it's sleeping in a lair, weaken it by poisoning it's food, steal a baby dragon and make it come to you where you can shoot it down. Heck, attack it with 50 airships, at least theree's no guarantee yours would be destroyed.
One story quest had a dragon attacking a base. but rather than just keep flying by and torching everyone and every tower, it waits and lands on the ground.
All of the dragon fights I've seen outside are just go up to a leg and keep hacking until it dies.
If that's all your going to do with most of the dragons in the game, find another big baddy.
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9/10/12 6:16:20 PM#83
Lets be honest most settings have been done before. Almost any encounter was probably done on the early systems. Maybe not as graphically or astetically pleasing but regardless the setting has been done. I am sure if you take it far enough. Pen and papermight have done it even earlier. I am just not quite that arcaic ;)
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9/10/12 6:16:47 PM#84
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlVohnTKlTY Pretty sure this sums up this thread. |
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9/10/12 6:17:24 PM#85
Originally posted by FrodoFragins Trick the Dragon into morphing into human form, then kill it. Lure the dragon into an unsteady part of the cave then knock a big rock or stalagtite onto the dragons head. |
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9/10/12 6:18:10 PM#86
Originally posted by FrodoFragins Yes...that would have been such a fun personal story quest to do if it simply kept flying around torching everything. 1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical. 2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself. 3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose. |
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9/10/12 6:28:42 PM#87
Originally posted by Wickedjelly I think Frodo's point is, once you create the rules for a world, then the creatures should act in a logical way within those rules. If a Dragon can fly, why would it land on the ground in order to be hacked? Example: in the Ulduar raid you fight Razor scale in an open area, Is he simply going to land and let the players hack at him, No, the players fire balistas and chain him to the ground where he becomes trapped. |
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9/10/12 6:34:42 PM#88
Originally posted by Johnie-Marz At a certain point though you have to suspend disbelief even in the realm of fantasy though. If you want to put a realistic spin on it no one would ever be able to take a dragon on. If you try putting a realistic spin on things in these games you could tear anything to pieces if you wanted to. I'm not going to sit here and say these are the best designed boss fights I have done. On the other hand I can't remotely take this topic the slightest bit seriously. 1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical. 2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself. 3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose. |
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9/10/12 6:36:52 PM#89
Originally posted by FrodoFragins If it helps (and i might be wrong here, just glanced the video) there were severall airships on the map, not just one. Most likely because there were a lot of dragon champions flying around the place. |
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9/10/12 6:45:17 PM#90
Originally posted by Wickedjelly In fantasy, you create the rules: People suspend their disbelief when the creators stay within those rules and the people and creatures act logically within the rules.
The problem's that can be created are actually gifts that make the world more interesting.
If a Dragon can fry you with it's breath, then you have to find some sort of flame retardant before you fight him. Or you need to get out of the way of the breath weapon. If a Dragon can simply fly away, then you have to find a way to make him stay. If a Dragon can come underneath a flying ship and smash it to bits, then you have to have protection of some sort, A mage with a spell you have to protect or guns underneath you ship. Coming up with solutions for these things, make for more interesting fights. |
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9/10/12 6:57:23 PM#91
The nitpicks I've made aren't ones I'd make when playing, except for the world dragons that just stand there. Those fights are horrible.
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9/10/12 7:01:39 PM#92
Originally posted by FrodoFragins Can tell you haven't done many dungeons :P 1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical. 2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself. 3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose. |
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9/10/12 7:02:03 PM#93
Originally posted by expresso Hands down the daftest and most petulant complaint I have ever seen on these boards. |
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9/10/12 8:18:08 PM#94
Originally posted by Dibdabs "The download is too big" still tops the charts in my book, but this one is pretty close. no GW2 won't kill WoW, but it's time to move on and quit worrying about those people still playing it. - eyelolled |
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9/10/12 8:20:54 PM#95
Originally posted by just1opinion Gosh.... lol Well like I said, even if I don't hate WoW, that's pretty much what WoW is. Heck, the Lich King is still one of my favorite villains in video games, but none of Blizzard's plots or characters are terribly original. no GW2 won't kill WoW, but it's time to move on and quit worrying about those people still playing it. - eyelolled |
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Hi all I'm back from the store, so whats been..... DAMN IT! forgot the milk BRB
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9/11/12 2:33:05 AM#97
Originally posted by Eir_S What about "no elves"? But seriously, we seen plenty of silly reasons for people to quit MMO and "my friends didnt like it" from an ex AoC player still gets the retard cake, some people just care more about what others think then what they think themselves. |
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9/11/12 3:17:58 AM#98
Originally posted by voxnor Judging by his avatar, I think the (sad) answer is obvious. I love these kids who think WoW invented everything, just because they were too young to play older games. ***** Before hitting that reply button, please READ the WHOLE thread you're about to post in ***** |
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Caliburn101
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Joined: 3/30/11
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." Albert Einstein |
9/11/12 4:45:20 AM#99
Ah damn and I was enjoying my Necromancer, but as Necromancers have been 'done to death' (he he) and 'plant elves' were first created in Runequest's Glorantha, I shouldn't play either right? I'll just delete the game from my hard drive huh? Get a grip OP! The Fantasy genre has been going since the 1920's in modern times and since at least Homer in Ancient Greek times and nearly every trope you can think of has been written about, filmed and played. It doesn't mean you can't enjoy new iterations of it instead of griping about airships and dragons.... ... perhaps you would have preferred jetpacks? |
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Odinthedark1
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Joined: 10/06/11
"A fool learns from his own mistakes, a wise man learns from the mistakes of others." |
9/11/12 4:56:05 AM#100
idc what did what first, but whoever played WoW and did Dragon Soul every week since it came out wouldnt wanna see more airship fights :P the few raids i did its the fight alot of groups wiped on too. im probably gonn get trolled hard for mentioned WoW but in all seriousness airship fights are cliche and not very creative nor original anymore.
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