Can't vouch for the OP's experience, but personally I find GW2 one of the most flawless MMORPG launches I've ever seen... and I've seen a few.

In fact, the ONLY thing I've found that wasn't workin in order, was the trading post which goes down from time to time.

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

People comparing the game to AoC release really  have no clue...  The game had no content at all after  level 20.

Thats is a blatant lie. To have no content after tortage, would mean that tortage encompassed all of AoC.

To be fair AoC had more end game content at launch that GW2 currently has. As buggy as it was, it was still more than the non-existant end game of GW2. It was also way more challenging than GW2.

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Originally posted by prpshrt
Yah there's bugs but don't call it a buggy mess. It is week two of the game of a HUGE game. 

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I would not call it a buggy mess either, but the fact that it's week 2 has little to do with it. There are bugs, I have been impacted, such as my 1st guild was entirely deleted from the game. Poof...Gone! Among issues, some more minor than others.

Originally posted by Quizzical
If a game being a buggy mess particularly bothered you, then you wouldn't have picked up a new game so soon after launch.

You're right. I shouldn't expect any level of quality from a product when it is sitting on the shelves for consumers to purchase. Geez, what was I thinking.

I've had over a dozen events bug out on me this week. NPC's clipping into walls, stopping halfway through the route, chests not opening for rewards, and an arena gate closing after an event is over, trapping me inside.

I am enjoying the game, but sometimes the bugs can be infuriating. If you honestly believe nothing is wrong with the game, you aren't playing the same game.

This is why I don't buy mmo's at launch anymore.  You all pretty much know better as well.  Some of you just don't like to admit it. 

If a launch goes well people say, " Wow...I'm really surprised!  The launch went so smooth!  This is a very pleasant surprise indeed. "

If a launch goes poorly people say, " Man this launch sucks.  I hate this.  I'm very frustrated.  Stupid game. "

So we seem so pessimestic and surprised if it goes well, yet we seem so horribly upset and optimistic when a launch goes poorly.  You all know that on average, launches suck, and there will be problems for weeks.  Some of you intelligent people that are just super excited go into it knowing and accepting the issues.  Other intelligent people would rather wait and play it when its more polished after a couple of months. 

As for the rest of you?  No comment. 

Originally posted by Stellus

Don't do anything with the economic portion of the game. Reports of lost gold/gems during exchange, lost deposits into bank, and auction house woes. Every zone I hit has at least 2 bugged out quest hubs. Don't bother with the Fire Temple Tombs - even if you do manage to kill the Champion mob that clips into the walls, his chest won't open.

Last night, I was randomly disconnected from the server. Surprise! The log-in server was down again and I couldn't log back in to finish an event I was in. Once I did, I was put back into the Overflow and was given zero credit for my work.

I enjoy the game, but there is a LOT of work that needs to be done. This game needed more time to bake in the oven.

I've found that when you have bought items on th Trading Post you can get a delay of about 5 seconds, I suppose some ppl could mistake that delay as losing their items when they may have expected them instantly, otherwise nope haven't suffered anything that could be classes as a bug, and I've been using it constantly since it's been readily available.

As for quest hubs, well I've only managed to get 1 char to lvl 29 since the Headstart (too busy exploring every inch of the game before moving on) so I can only speak about the quest hubs I've encountered and I have yet to find one that won't allow me to advance.

As for random disconnects, yes I've encountered them, but whats odd is that when this has happened everyone else in my household on my router has also lost the internet, so I'm not sure if it's down to my end or NCSoft, I suspect it's my end tbh.

New to MMOs are you?

GW2 is one of the better polished releases, Wow for example was in worse shape at the US release and lets not talk about EQ....

Yes, there are bugs even if the ones you are talking about is stuff I never heard of before. Broken escort quests and a few weird things like zombies getting stuck in trees is the worse I seen beside the auction house being down the first 10 or so days.

I am enjoying the game but still: yes the game is buggy. Fact is a fact. It is only 2 weeks old or all games are buggy at start - these are not the arguments the OP is discussing.

Shall I start writing the problems? Nah I think you all know about them you just like defending the game even if it is nothing to defend. They will fix the bugs and the game will be great and I will play it for a long time. Maybe because it has no sub

Originally posted by Stellus

Originally posted by Quizzical
If a game being a buggy mess particularly bothered you, then you wouldn't have picked up a new game so soon after launch.

You're right. I shouldn't expect any level of quality from a product when it is sitting on the shelves for consumers to purchase. Geez, what was I thinking.

I've had over a dozen events bug out on me this week. NPC's clipping into walls, stopping halfway through the route, chests not opening for rewards, and an arena gate closing after an event is over, trapping me inside.

I am enjoying the game, but sometimes the bugs can be infuriating. If you honestly believe nothing is wrong with the game, you aren't playing the same game.

HAha well as much as i detest Anet i have to agree part of the blame is on the consumers.The writing was on the wall when they announced a definite release date without even seeing the state fo the game on final test week.

The difference of course is that you buy a car,you get to test drive it,if it fails,you say no thanks.In the gaming world you have to buy first ask later,which imo is flat out wrong.they can claim and use their copyright excuse till they are blue in the face,fact is they are not offering a fair standard to consumers.

Bottom line ,it is still on the consumer,you have the right to complain,but remember you gave them your money.I have made the same mistakes myself,but i don`t do it anymore.I now do tons of homework and watch all the detail to see what kind of product i am buying.I am pretty much a test first pay later consumer now,far too many half finished products coming out on release dates.

Originally posted by Loke666

New to MMOs are you?

GW2 is one of the better polished releases, Wow for example was in worse shape at the US release and lets not talk about EQ....

Yes, there are bugs even if the ones you are talking about is stuff I never heard of before. Broken escort quests and a few weird things like zombies getting stuck in trees is the worse I seen beside the auction house being down the first 10 or so days.

Lol no. GW2 had one of the worst releases on par with diablo 3.

The secret world,Tera and SWTOR  had all beter releases.

Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r

Originally posted by Loke666

New to MMOs are you?

GW2 is one of the better polished releases, Wow for example was in worse shape at the US release and lets not talk about EQ....

Yes, there are bugs even if the ones you are talking about is stuff I never heard of before. Broken escort quests and a few weird things like zombies getting stuck in trees is the worse I seen beside the auction house being down the first 10 or so days.

Lol no. GW2 had one of the worst releases on par with diablo 3.

The secret world,Tera and SWTOR  had all beter releases.

Chat is fucked really. When people can go on and on about robots taking over the world yet you can't form a fucking group due to being message suppressed there is an issue.

Either it is getting worse or my patience for it is lowering. Needs to be resolved.

Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r

Originally posted by Loke666

New to MMOs are you?

GW2 is one of the better polished releases, Wow for example was in worse shape at the US release and lets not talk about EQ....

Yes, there are bugs even if the ones you are talking about is stuff I never heard of before. Broken escort quests and a few weird things like zombies getting stuck in trees is the worse I seen beside the auction house being down the first 10 or so days.

Lol no. GW2 had one of the worst releases on par with diablo 3.

The secret world,Tera and SWTOR  had all beter releases.

With the difference I don't have to pay while they're repairing their game. And as much as I've been in a P2P bandwagon, I'm boarding a B2P train along with this game.

What I think they've had right is WvWvW that is wonderfully similar to WAR ORvR but better made and an engine to support big battles.

On the PvE side, I just love that "downgrading" to according level of the mobs. 1st time after LoTRO I'm actually looking forward in exploring the world and having them all mapped (PoIs, Vistas, Hearts and Waypoints).

Maybe I'm cursing this game after 6 months, but so what. I'm sure I've had my fun for the box price.

Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r

Originally posted by Loke666

New to MMOs are you?

GW2 is one of the better polished releases, Wow for example was in worse shape at the US release and lets not talk about EQ....

Yes, there are bugs even if the ones you are talking about is stuff I never heard of before. Broken escort quests and a few weird things like zombies getting stuck in trees is the worse I seen beside the auction house being down the first 10 or so days.

Lol no. GW2 had one of the worst releases on par with diablo 3.

The secret world,Tera and SWTOR  had all beter releases.

TOR? Please. Terrible FPS issues and ability lag made that one nearly unplayable for a lot of people. Let's not even talk about Illum, which wasn't just buggy, but broken beyond belief.

TSW's launch was also far from flawless. Its servers worked well - probably because it had underwhelming sales - but it had plenty of bugs. There's a great topic about it on MMORPG, actually:

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/358408/Funcom-I-made-an-Investigation-mission-for-you.html

TERA's launch was a year after its Asian launch, so it wasn't even a real launch.

So yes, GW2's launch isn't perfect. I've seen some broken events and had one broken personal story quest that was fixed a couple of days later. However, a "buggy mess" and "one of the worst"? Hell no.

Originally posted by Wizardry

HAha well as much as i detest Anet i have to agree part of the blame is on the consumers.The writing was on the wall when they announced a definite release date without even seeing the state fo the game on final test week.

The difference of course is that you buy a car,you get to test drive it,if it fails,you say no thanks.In the gaming world you have to buy first ask later,which imo is flat out wrong.they can claim and use their copyright excuse till they are blue in the face,fact is they are not offering a fair standard to consumers.

Bottom line ,it is still on the consumer,you have the right to complain,but remember you gave them your money.I have made the same mistakes myself,but i don`t do it anymore.I now do tons of homework and watch all the detail to see what kind of product i am buying.I am pretty much a test first pay later consumer now,far too many half finished products coming out on release dates.

All MMOs gets a free trial a while after launch, if you cant stand bugs but are in a hurry at the same time, whos fault is that?

People are talking a lot about being consumers but as a consumer you have the responsibility to check up what you buy. You cant just buy a bottle of wine and demand a refund becuse you didnt know you didnt like wine.

But yes, it sucks that MMOs never are ready for release, but GW2 still is in better shape than most. It is 2 weeks after launch and they already fixed up most of the issues, that took Vanguard 2 years and Wow 6 months.

Originally posted by Scalpless

Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r

Originally posted by Loke666

New to MMOs are you?

GW2 is one of the better polished releases, Wow for example was in worse shape at the US release and lets not talk about EQ....

Yes, there are bugs even if the ones you are talking about is stuff I never heard of before. Broken escort quests and a few weird things like zombies getting stuck in trees is the worse I seen beside the auction house being down the first 10 or so days.

Lol no. GW2 had one of the worst releases on par with diablo 3.

The secret world,Tera and SWTOR  had all beter releases.

TOR? Please. Terrible FPS issues and ability lag made that one nearly unplayable for a lot of people. Let's not even talk about Illum, which wasn't just buggy, but broken beyond belief.

TSW's launch was also far from flawless. Its servers worked well - probably because it had underwhelming sales - but it had plenty of bugs. There's a great topic about it on MMORPG, actually:

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/358408/Funcom-I-made-an-Investigation-mission-for-you.html

TERA's launch was a year after its Asian launch, so it wasn't even a real launch.

So yes, GW2's launch isn't perfect. I've seen some broken events and had one broken personal story quest that was fixed a couple of days later. However, a "buggy mess" and "one of the worst"? Hell no.

And dont forget about downtime. I only seen GW2 being down that 3 hours the first day of headstart. Now TOR on the other hand....

Originally posted by Loke666

New to MMOs are you?

GW2 is one of the better polished releases, Wow for example was in worse shape at the US release and lets not talk about EQ....

Yes, there are bugs even if the ones you are talking about is stuff I never heard of before. Broken escort quests and a few weird things like zombies getting stuck in trees is the worse I seen beside the auction house being down the first 10 or so days.

WOW had a bad release...we get it. Really we do, we've heard it every time a new game launch's.

I dont think that should be used by EVERY new game released as a reason that it was more successfull.

GW2 was and still is a buggy mess.