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9/10/12 7:40:15 PM#41
Originally posted by Deivos Again. Its the name of a guild. I haven't said anything about what he struts around doing in his free time in the game or out. That being said, I don't treat anyone any differently than I would want from myself. Do you think that calling someone special to their face is any better than cracking a joke about it? Its the name of a guild, not a full frontal assault on people with disabilities. Ever once think that these people want to be treated normally? I doubt you would appreciate it if someone went up to you and threw the fact that you are "special" in your face constantly and treated them differently because of it. Same thing goes for people who have lost a loved one. Do you go around and throw it in their face and treat them like they are any worse off than anyone else because of it or do you help them move on by treating them the same you did before it? If he went into a pool and started swimming around, pointing at the person and going "look what I can do, look what I can do", sure thats too far. But at the same time, hey let's act like these people are freaks of nature that deserve any more attention and treatment than anyone else purely because of their disability, that will solve the problem right? Honestly, put yourself in their shoes and ask yourself: Is it better to be the same as everyone or treated different? Then come back to me with an answer. If you answer the same, then congrats, you can be made fun of like the rest of us. If you answer different, then you clearly don't understand what it means to be different and get treated thus. |
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9/10/12 7:41:42 PM#42
Originally posted by kevjards Thank you, perfect example of my point. |
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9/10/12 7:47:29 PM#43
Paraplegic Swim Team [SINK] is a legacy GW1 guild; if A.net had any problem with that guild name, they would have done something about it when the guild was consistently in the top 20 for the monthly AT's a year or more ago. |
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9/10/12 7:52:27 PM#44
The Bob joke is ancient, but still gets panties in a bunch. GJ!
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9/10/12 7:52:56 PM#45
Originally posted by eggy08 I think both responses are dismissive and used as means to not really consider what one is being presented with.
Fact is if you are using their name, be it 'positive' or 'negative', you are planting a focus on them one way or another. If you really want what you claim, for them to not be treated differently, then don't treat them differently. Don't call them out one way or another for their problems, faults or otherwise. Their guild name points them out same as a player name would. It's the same policy in both cases.
Perhaps just talk to them about it, inquire about their issues or differences. That's the only means where you can address an issue in a manner that actually fits to what your diatribe actually claims an end-goal to.
Everything else is justification.
EDIT: in a sense it falls back to this comment by another.
"I really hope that this is sarcastic - and even then it's in bad taste." As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero. - Vaarsuvius |
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9/10/12 8:03:43 PM#46
Originally posted by Deivos Goes back to the guy with disabilities that noone know how to act around them. I'm sure you make fun of people constantly on a daily basis of their flaws. What you are proposing is that we live in a perfect world where noone ever makes fun of anyone ever since any "disability", whether it be from physical or mental (which I might add, includes anything imaginable from someone who you claim to be normal being bad at that activity), should never be mad fun of for such disability. Fine, I'd like to see you go the rest of your life never rediculing a guy for being stupid for missing a question on something or for doing something not very bright. That you can never make fun of someone for being bad at a sport that he isn't particularly good at. That you treat everyone exactly the same regardless of race, disability or other for all of time. Then you can come at me and tell me that your world can exist. Until then, don't act like having a disability makes someone special, because then everyone in the world is special for one reason or another and thus everyone is the same and should be treated as thus. You can't answer my question truthfully, because you know the answer. Don't act like your a saint for what you do. Your no better than anyone else and could be considered worse in the right light. |
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9/10/12 8:13:50 PM#47
"china-man" is a racist term, its the equivalent of calling a black guy the "N" word. no Chinese person calls another Chinese person a china-man. it doesn't surprise me at all it got reported and removed. /thread |
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9/10/12 8:14:42 PM#48
LOTRO has a raid that requires certain fellowship maneuvers in order to complete a challenge mode. One of them is called "A Chink in Their Armor" and the name of it doesn't pass through LOTRO's own name filters. When it shows up in the chat window it's A &^$@! in Their Armor. I'm guessing it was Chinaman. And no, it's not unique to GW2. |
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9/10/12 8:58:16 PM#49
Originally posted by ShakyMo I know, right.
But think about this: Blizzard is based in Irvine, California. If you know anything about California demographics, you would know that commies are no joking matter in Orange County, CA.
EDIT: Religion & Politics -- to be avoided. Also, aside from races like elves, orcs, etc., no humie racism allowed. "Chinaman" is racist.
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9/10/12 9:13:06 PM#50
I'm confused by people who aren't aware that Chinaman is generally used as a fairly racist, derogatory term. :I |
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9/10/12 9:22:45 PM#51
They should have just given you a lifetime ban from GW2 and GW3 with a stupid name like that.
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KingJiggly
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Joined: 8/03/11
Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome. |
9/10/12 9:24:32 PM#52
Do you not understand this is a joke.... >.<
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation |
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9/10/12 9:32:01 PM#53
Technically... Calling any Asian person "Chinaman" is the same as calling any African American the "N" word... If the OP is an Asian then it MIGHT be ok. Although I seriously doubt that he's an Asian to begin with. Besides any self-respectful Asian person wouldn't call himself "Chinaman". |
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trash656
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Joined: 10/18/05
It is easier to Fight for Principles then it is to Live up to them. |
9/10/12 9:44:10 PM#54
Originally posted by Rylandojones Paraplegic Swimteam is offensive to me. I have a Paraplegic Cousin who is handicapped. If i ever saw you say that in front of me I would have the urge to knock your block off :) Anet is not to blame, You are, Chinaman is a term used to define a person of chinese descent. Depending on the situation of where the word is used, it can be offensive to a man of Chinese Origin espeacially if hes not Chinese but of Asian descent. Might not seem racist to you but it is. You should be mature enough to be mindful with those kinds of things in Online Games, and who you are offending. That's like me making a joke about a black person and water melons then assuming it's not putting down someone else because it's not offensive to you, but could be to someone else. Chinaman is offensive to me because my Wife is chinese, and I'm a white Canadian. |
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9/10/12 9:50:15 PM#55
These uptight dorks running the show at A-net need to get laid.
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9/10/12 9:51:35 PM#56
Originally posted by Rylandojones More like Arena Net is doing exactly what they should be doing, moderating their game. This is just another reason for me to go grab GW2 when it becomes available again. Quizzical: One of the fundamental laws of the universe is that if an acronym is used often enough, someone will try to pronounce it. Kyleran: It's like how the Hebrews feel about the true name of God, it's never to be pronounced. If I actually try to describe it vocally to others I tell them I play online games. |
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9/10/12 9:58:42 PM#57
Originally posted by trash656 As is every joke, period. You honestly don't understand the word if you think that noone would be offended from any joke ever made. So does that mean that we can't make a joke anymore since it offends at least one person or are there special exceptions to that? If there are, what are these exceptions? Because I'm sure I can apply them to any joke ever made, including the ones in bad taste, such as either one he mentioned. Everyone is a little bit racist. I'm pretty sure what I highlighted isn't the politically correct term and would get you shot in the wrong area. Ya, I said shot, because its a joke, and I'm sure one person will take offense to it. |
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9/10/12 10:11:48 PM#58
Some of you uptight humorless tools need to go back to your charm school and let the normal people enjoy the internet.
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trash656
Hard Core Member
Joined: 10/18/05
It is easier to Fight for Principles then it is to Live up to them. |
9/10/12 10:50:38 PM#59
Originally posted by eggy08 No not everyone is racist, I'm certaintly not, my wife is Chinese and I don't go to her perants and jokingly call her dad a chinaman? He would karatechop me into the next life. My Cousin is also Handicapped and you think its funny to make fun of Paraplegic people in a video games? What kind of iignorant moron are you? Yes I realize it was done for shits a giggles (Because most 18 year olds do stupid things) but just because it was done as a joke doesn't mean we should all be going around jokingly making names up that can offend other people. You need to seriously educate yourself on history and world war 2 how the Jews became second class citizens, people would make jokes about the jews how big their noses were because they thought it was funny, thats how racism starts. |
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9/10/12 10:51:40 PM#60
Originally posted by reef22
It's probably a lot safer to call an asian a chinaman then a black the 'N' word though. This is just a theory though, someone should test it out to make sure.
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