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  User Deleted
9/10/12 10:03:09 AM#21

Its easy to say "yay no subs" now when theres just one purchase involved.  Hopefully they sell you guys a decent endgame soon for$60...and in a few years you might have to pay well over $200 for the entier game...which might make subs look better since usually at that time buying a whole mmorpg that is p2p would still cost a reduced box and the sub fee..excluding that game that charges for every content patch and call them expansions...most p2p dont do that.

 

  L0C0Man

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9/10/12 10:09:26 AM#22
Originally posted by redman875

Its easy to say "yay no subs" now when theres just one purchase involved.  Hopefully they sell you guys a decent endgame soon for$60...and in a few years you might have to pay well over $200 for the entier game...which might make subs look better since usually at that time buying a whole mmorpg that is p2p would still cost a reduced box and the sub fee..excluding that game that charges for every content patch and call them expansions...most p2p dont do that.

 

We'll see in a few years down the lane, I guess... One thing that do come to mind, though... I remember I was thinking of going back to WoW for a while sometime during the cataclysm expansion... but wanting to start from scratch because my account is on the european servers which makes it harder for me to find groups to play (being in Venezuela) specially after all my friends from the NA zone left the game, so I wanted to get an US account... and I remember doing the math, I would have needed about $130 to get WoW up to date (box + expansions up to Cata) + I'd have the sub fee on top of that.

At the same time, getting all of Guild Wars (B2P like GW2) at the same time would have meant $50 total with no further sub fees ($29.99 for GW trilogy on steam that comes with the three released campaigns + $19.99 for the eye of the north expansion, you can check, they still have the same price). So I'd say there's really no correlation there about being P2P or B2P and how much you'd need to pay to get an up to date game.

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  darkrain21

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OP  9/10/12 10:18:21 AM#23
thats my bad i keep forgetting the classes are called professions in GW2. I ment my skills like leatherworking chief armorsmithing.
  OG_Zorvan

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9/10/12 10:28:04 AM#24
Originally posted by L0C0Man
Originally posted by redman875

Its easy to say "yay no subs" now when theres just one purchase involved.  Hopefully they sell you guys a decent endgame soon for$60...and in a few years you might have to pay well over $200 for the entier game...which might make subs look better since usually at that time buying a whole mmorpg that is p2p would still cost a reduced box and the sub fee..excluding that game that charges for every content patch and call them expansions...most p2p dont do that.

 

We'll see in a few years down the lane, I guess... One thing that do come to mind, though... I remember I was thinking of going back to WoW for a while sometime during the cataclysm expansion... but wanting to start from scratch because my account is on the european servers which makes it harder for me to find groups to play (being in Venezuela) specially after all my friends from the NA zone left the game, so I wanted to get an US account... and I remember doing the math, I would have needed about $130 to get WoW up to date (box + expansions up to Cata) + I'd have the sub fee on top of that.

At the same time, getting all of Guild Wars (B2P like GW2) at the same time would have meant $50 total with no further sub fees ($29.99 for GW trilogy on steam that comes with the three released campaigns + $19.99 for the eye of the north expansion, you can check, they still have the same price). So I'd say there's really no correlation there about being P2P or B2P and how much you'd need to pay to get an up to date game.

WoW is only $60 including MoP if you login to the WoW front page and click on the "prepurchase" window upper right ( Battlechest + WotLK + Cataclysym +MoP for $59.99). http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/Zorvan/Capture.png

I'm actually tempted to do it myself.

EA CEO John Riccitiello's on future microtransactions: "When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging."

  kaiser3282

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9/10/12 10:37:31 AM#25
Originally posted by redman875

Its easy to say "yay no subs" now when theres just one purchase involved.  Hopefully they sell you guys a decent endgame soon for$60...and in a few years you might have to pay well over $200 for the entier game...which might make subs look better since usually at that time buying a whole mmorpg that is p2p would still cost a reduced box and the sub fee..excluding that game that charges for every content patch and call them expansions...most p2p dont do that.

 

Its so funny watching you try so desperately to troll the game every chance you get, while having absolutely no idea what youre talking about. Good trolls at least mix in some truth with what they say.

Looks like youre still going around pretending you dont basically bay the price of a full game for expansions in most games, on top of the sub fees.

Lets see:

$20 for original + TBC

$20 for WOTLK

$40 for Cata

And now another $40 for MoP

WoW - $120 + $15 x months played

GW1 - $30 for the entire trilogy, and no sub

GW2 - $60, no sub

Oh whats that? Was it the cries of a raging troll in anguish over elementary school mathematics and logic?

  L0C0Man

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9/10/12 10:45:17 AM#26
Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
Originally posted by L0C0Man
Originally posted by redman875

Its easy to say "yay no subs" now when theres just one purchase involved.  Hopefully they sell you guys a decent endgame soon for$60...and in a few years you might have to pay well over $200 for the entier game...which might make subs look better since usually at that time buying a whole mmorpg that is p2p would still cost a reduced box and the sub fee..excluding that game that charges for every content patch and call them expansions...most p2p dont do that.

 

We'll see in a few years down the lane, I guess... One thing that do come to mind, though... I remember I was thinking of going back to WoW for a while sometime during the cataclysm expansion... but wanting to start from scratch because my account is on the european servers which makes it harder for me to find groups to play (being in Venezuela) specially after all my friends from the NA zone left the game, so I wanted to get an US account... and I remember doing the math, I would have needed about $130 to get WoW up to date (box + expansions up to Cata) + I'd have the sub fee on top of that.

At the same time, getting all of Guild Wars (B2P like GW2) at the same time would have meant $50 total with no further sub fees ($29.99 for GW trilogy on steam that comes with the three released campaigns + $19.99 for the eye of the north expansion, you can check, they still have the same price). So I'd say there's really no correlation there about being P2P or B2P and how much you'd need to pay to get an up to date game.

WoW is only $60 including MoP if you login to the WoW front page and click on the "prepurchase" window upper right ( Battlechest + WotLK + Cataclysym +MoP for $59.99). http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/Zorvan/Capture.png

I'm actually tempted to do it myself.

hmmm.. I guess that offer isn't available for latinamerica, I don't see the option to buy it. The way it seems to be for me, at least, going by the shop is:

$19.99 for the battle chest

$19.99 for wrath of the lich king

$39.99 for Cataclysm

$39.99 for MoP (might as well as it, since it's out in less than a month)

Total: $119.96

All prices going by the blizzard shop, all digital downloads.

What can men do against such reckless hate?

  Loke666

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9/10/12 10:50:56 AM#27
Originally posted by redman875

Its easy to say "yay no subs" now when theres just one purchase involved.  Hopefully they sell you guys a decent endgame soon for$60...and in a few years you might have to pay well over $200 for the entier game...which might make subs look better since usually at that time buying a whole mmorpg that is p2p would still cost a reduced box and the sub fee..excluding that game that charges for every content patch and call them expansions...most p2p dont do that.

I dont think so, GW1 was packed with each campaign loose or all together, for $45 and $60 when Nightfall came out and then for $40 for the complete a year later. New players will pick up the slightly more expensive pack.

Frankly do a certain big MMO forces you to buy several boxes to start now, something really annoying for new players and something ANET wont do since it actually will cost you more than ypu earn.

  Lorkii

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Joined: 9/04/12
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9/10/12 10:54:40 AM#28
Well, IMO, it doesn t warrant a sub in the least. Others think it does, but I m willing to bet, most of those wouldn t sub if there was. I was bored in 3 days, still tried, but couldn t handle the game mechanics at all. Once that happens it s obvious I ll never like it.
  OG_Zorvan

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Joined: 8/31/12
Posts: 646

9/10/12 10:59:21 AM#29
Originally posted by L0C0Man
Originally posted by OG_Zorvan
Originally posted by L0C0Man
Originally posted by redman875

Its easy to say "yay no subs" now when theres just one purchase involved.  Hopefully they sell you guys a decent endgame soon for$60...and in a few years you might have to pay well over $200 for the entier game...which might make subs look better since usually at that time buying a whole mmorpg that is p2p would still cost a reduced box and the sub fee..excluding that game that charges for every content patch and call them expansions...most p2p dont do that.

 

We'll see in a few years down the lane, I guess... One thing that do come to mind, though... I remember I was thinking of going back to WoW for a while sometime during the cataclysm expansion... but wanting to start from scratch because my account is on the european servers which makes it harder for me to find groups to play (being in Venezuela) specially after all my friends from the NA zone left the game, so I wanted to get an US account... and I remember doing the math, I would have needed about $130 to get WoW up to date (box + expansions up to Cata) + I'd have the sub fee on top of that.

At the same time, getting all of Guild Wars (B2P like GW2) at the same time would have meant $50 total with no further sub fees ($29.99 for GW trilogy on steam that comes with the three released campaigns + $19.99 for the eye of the north expansion, you can check, they still have the same price). So I'd say there's really no correlation there about being P2P or B2P and how much you'd need to pay to get an up to date game.

WoW is only $60 including MoP if you login to the WoW front page and click on the "prepurchase" window upper right ( Battlechest + WotLK + Cataclysym +MoP for $59.99). http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/Zorvan/Capture.png

I'm actually tempted to do it myself.

hmmm.. I guess that offer isn't available for latinamerica, I don't see the option to buy it. The way it seems to be for me, at least, going by the shop is:

$19.99 for the battle chest

$19.99 for wrath of the lich king

$39.99 for Cataclysm

$39.99 for MoP (might as well as it, since it's out in less than a month)

Total: $119.96

All prices going by the blizzard shop, all digital downloads.

Yeah, those are the prices if you go into the digital downloads page.

If you go to the main page http://us.battle.net/wow/en/ , you should see the "prepurchase" window with a countdown in the upper right http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/Zorvan/Capture1.png which takes you to the offer. I'm not sure, but I think you can use the U.S. account even outside the U.S.

EA CEO John Riccitiello's on future microtransactions: "When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging."

  IceAge

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9/10/12 11:00:43 AM#30
Originally posted by darkrain21
thats my bad i keep forgetting the classes are called professions in GW2. I ment my skills like leatherworking chief armorsmithing.

Well, you can only level 2 professions at a time with one char! So you have 2 chars?

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  Goldknyght

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It''s one thing to have a opinion, but enforcing one is unconstitutional.

9/10/12 11:01:27 AM#31
LOL repost this thread in 2months lets see if ur still happy
  Thorbrand

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9/10/12 11:01:39 AM#32

First off yes single player MMOs suck and are boring. So at all cost play with your guild and your friends.

The worst part now is the queue times for WvW, you can't play WvW which means you are not playing the game as intended. All you can do at 80 is run around farming events and world bosses or dungeon runs while waiting in WvW queue.

Fun times!

  OG_Zorvan

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9/10/12 3:32:07 PM#33
Originally posted by Thorbrand

First off yes single player MMOs suck and are boring. So at all cost play with your guild and your friends.

The worst part now is the queue times for WvW, you can't play WvW which means you are not playing the game as intended. All you can do at 80 is run around farming events and world bosses or dungeon runs while waiting in WvW queue.

Fun times!

SWToR showed playing a singleplayer game with a guild or friends still doesn't hold people there for long. In fact, it holds people even less once they see they've been misled.

EA CEO John Riccitiello's on future microtransactions: "When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging."

  Carnafex

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9/10/12 3:50:32 PM#34
Originally posted by darkrain21

 

To start im not bashing on the game I love the game its fun fast and rewarding. That was the case while i leveled up. Being 80 is  still fun, WvW and plus ive started working on my SPvP ranks and ive began farming Explore modes with my friends but there is something lost when you have no defined goal  in mind.

Its not a bad thing in the least but im about to finish my 5th profession and ive only got around 2 more explore modes to go. What then? That on top of Anets terrifiyingly bad Customer service and the constant threat of losing my CC information with which i cant take off my account I think the game might have to go on the back burner.

Which is why im  happy i dont have to pay a Monthly because its easy to just pick up and play again but im still a bit down that the no end game hasnt really been working out as well as i had hoped. Just my 2 cents. Game is fantastic tho just missing something.

 

All I can say is wow (exclaimation, not the game).  Over-achieve much ?

  Raekon

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9/11/12 5:58:44 AM#35
Originally posted by redman875

Its easy to say "yay no subs" now when theres just one purchase involved.  Hopefully they sell you guys a decent endgame soon for$60...and in a few years you might have to pay well over $200 for the entier game...which might make subs look better since usually at that time buying a whole mmorpg that is p2p would still cost a reduced box and the sub fee..excluding that game that charges for every content patch and call them expansions...most p2p dont do that.

 

In City of Heroes you bought the box and payed a small sub fee while all expansions came in form of free updates.

City of Villains were a stand alone game and wasn't needed for one to be able to play City of Heroes. Later on they even merged the two making one game. The only real expansion came much later which you again could buy if you wanted but didn't had to at all.

Same thing with Guild Wars back then since all 3 campaigns weren't expansions but rather stand alone games.

People still could pvp together or be in each others guilds as also meet in certain pve areas no matter what campaign they owned or not.

Updates like Sorrows Furnace and a few other things were for free.

The only real expansion for Guild Wars was Eye of the North and people gladly bought it because  it added a lot of new contents for a small price after you have enjoyed yourself for years prior to it without paying a single dime besides the main box you had choosen at all.

So one really can't compare these games to games like Final Fantasy 11 or WoW that every expansion costs while the sub is still going on.

  Misaris

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9/11/12 9:40:32 AM#36

My guess is

 

1.  there will be a paid "expansion" (small scale update which is commonly included in subscription MMOs for free) in 6 months.

2. They will approximately charge the amount worth of 6 months subscription of a regular MMO.

3. Price will be around 49 $

4. People will notice that "B2P" is nothing but a fancy new wording and slightly different scheme to make money just like any other gaming company

 

ANet seems to like fancy new wordings for stuff which has been around forever. Like "Dynamic events" (replacing questgiver with yellow circles) but delivering the same kill x, collect and deliver x quests known since the beginning of MMOs

 

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