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General Discussion  » Even with SWTOR going FTP..............

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  Paddyspub

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OP  9/09/12 9:54:15 PM#1

.........................I still wont probably ever go back to it.  Alot has changed from around one year ago, when SWTOR hype was huge and was considered Wow's first real competitor.    So many things wrong or broken about this game, but I wont go over the list of problems again, since there are so many threads about this topic.    Plus I think SWTOR F2P route will be so hamstringed with limitations that it would get so danged annoying without having to use the cash shop.  Knowing EA, they will try to milk this puppy dry.   I dont think this will help SWTOR's current track at all, it may slow the decline somewhat but then later on, numbers will keep on going downhill.   If they were doing what GW2 has done (Content, features, dungeons, abilities being free---then having a cash shop for extra items, bank/bag slot expansions, pets, etc. )  

 

I dont think anything will turn SWTOR's uphill battle without shutting the game down to a complete overhaul of the game's structure.    But you know EA will much sooner shut the game down for a tax write-off than do that.    If that happens maybe in 5-10 years we will get a real SW mmo that will do the IP justice.  Or maybe, just maybe, SoE be able to bring back SWG.   One can only hope.  My 2 cents.

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  Sevenstar61

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9/09/12 10:02:16 PM#2

Don't think about new SW MMO in any foreseable future. I don't think that after all the hate the game got any developer (in right state of mind) will risk put their money into this IP as we all know you can't satisfy all, and to get a game which satisfy all you need a lot of money.

I personally hope that SWTOR can only get better. It's not a game for everybody, some people love it, some hate it. But hopefully those who are fans of SW can find one day something that will be fun for them.


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  ktanner3

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9/10/12 12:37:59 AM#3
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Don't think about new SW MMO in any foreseable future. I don't think that after all the hate the game got any developer (in right state of mind) will risk put their money into this IP as we all know you can't satisfy all, and to get a game which satisfy all you need a lot of money.

I personally hope that SWTOR can only get better. It's not a game for everybody, some people love it, some hate it. But hopefully those who are fans of SW can find one day something that will be fun for them.

The fans of Star Wars have found somthing that will be fun for them. Twice. The trouble is, not ALL of them  were satisfied with one or the other for various reasons. Despite what some would have you to believe around here, Star Wars fans are not some monolithic group that likes and dislikes the same things.  I remember quite clearly numerous complaints with SWG right after it released. Many complained that you can't have a Star Wars game without Jedi. Others complained about the numerous bug and glitches. Others complained that the game gave too much advantage to the melee professions and thus the game wasn't Star Warsy enough. When jedi was put in the game,  complaints came that they were breaking with the lore. Despite all those issues, there was a decent population that enjoyed it for what it was. I had my issues with the game, but enjoyed it all the same.. I feel the same way about TOR. Despite it's faults, it is a good game that gave me a lot of entertainment and I hope only the best for it. So as a player who has been a fan of the franchise since the 1980s, I can't complain. 

People who are holding out for that perfect Star Wars MMO will always be disappointed. As this site as proven time and  time again,there will always be people who hate it. In fact some seem to enjoy living in hate and misery.  

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  Fennris

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9/10/12 7:23:37 AM#4

Star Wars has 10's of millions of fans.  I believe that the problem with SWTOR is that there's no good reason for a non-MMO fan to play it.  PC Combat is clunky compared to other Star Wars games and space combat is lacking and not multiplayer.  The only things left are the MMO grind in pvp that doesn't make sense (War Zones/BGs can be fun but can't be explained to a RPer and the healing dynamic can't be explained to an FPSer) and the MMO grind in PVE (lots of people gather around giant robots/monsters and whack away).  While the stories are nice this is an MMO first and it has all of the MMO warts that turn off most sane people.  I'm playing and basically liking SWTOR but I wouldn't recommend it to any non-MMOer - I won't even admit I play it to any non-MMOer.

I believe that content-based MMO's for sane people will keep them playing for a few hours a month and not inspire them to quit their day jobs or otherwise reward the hardcore junkies first and foremost.  And they will overcome the combat limitations that Verant built their first MMO around; combat should be built around off/def maneuvers to get a solid hit with a decent weapon/spell (that ends a fight), not whittling down an opponent's health bar with dozens (or more) of mortal-looking strikes/blasts.  Ironically, the makers of SWTOR's Hero Engine, Simutronics, also made a text game with a combat system that is much more theatrical than any MMO I have seen so far.