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  Adiaris

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Joined: 10/12/08
Posts: 386

9/09/12 11:37:17 AM#161
Originally posted by Stryx74
   Concerning pve, the zones are beautiful to see, and you will see them as you complete the zone. The vistas are nice and you will see them as you complete the zone. The hearts are one quest giver giving a bunch of menial crap to do without the dev having to create meaningful dialogue thereby giving the heart quests any sort of excitement or greater purpose you feel invested in. The DE's can be fun, mostly the same type of objectives, with very hit or miss interesting purpose behind them. Oh, and once you clear the zone they are completely repetitive and I'm not sure why you would keep participating in them except to grind. I'm not saying these things arent mostly fun, for awhile, and the game is shite, because it's not. Its a well polished game, easily worth $60+, but a game that gets old fairly quickly as far as MMO pve goes. The pve, like every mmo, has an end, and the journey, while beautiful, is filled with been there done that, hey we can put these hearts on the map and wont have to write any meaningful dialogue to draw people in outside of these limited storylines. This for me, after playing many mmos, feels somewhat stale when it comes to fun interesting quest objectives. I'm not sure why you would prefer a heart over a village with multiple quest givers having a variety of story dialogues that give you some vested interest in that questing area/zone. Multiple well written quest objectives is what disguises the kill x and collect y and GW2 just doesnt bother with that. Mostly, I could care less what happens to these virtual people.

I haven't read (or not spacebared) a quest in ages. Funnily enough I go out of my way in GW2 to talk to scouts and npcs and figure out what's going on in a certain area. /shrug

  Misaris

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Joined: 6/28/12
Posts: 147

9/09/12 6:56:39 PM#162
Originally posted by StanlyStanko
Originally posted by kishe

Arenanet doesnt care if you dont play the game after two months of playing...all they care about is that you'll buy the 60$ expansion when they launch it in 6 months.

They better not be 60

interesting point.. let me see, so now some fell into the B2P trap plus cash shop, in approximately 4 months they will expect to get the money from you, which you had paid for a regular MMO sub in between, 13 $ x 4 months.

So, my guess for an "expansion" priced at 49.99$ probably in January or February.

Yeah.. don't expect any free content updates with this game.

  Atlan99

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Joined: 8/07/08
Posts: 1355

9/09/12 7:01:54 PM#163
Originally posted by daveospice

Snip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1JmOThzg9A

The new thread title made me think of this.

  Bad.dog

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Joined: 5/20/10
Posts: 1024

9/09/12 8:28:29 PM#164
Originally posted by Misaris
Originally posted by StanlyStanko
Originally posted by kishe

Arenanet doesnt care if you dont play the game after two months of playing...all they care about is that you'll buy the 60$ expansion when they launch it in 6 months.

They better not be 60

interesting point.. let me see, so now some fell into the B2P trap plus cash shop, in approximately 4 months they will expect to get the money from you, which you had paid for a regular MMO sub in between, 13 $ x 4 months.

So, my guess for an "expansion" priced at 49.99$ probably in January or February.

Yeah.. don't expect any free content updates with this game.

Personally I'd prefer to pay for new content when it comes out then to get suckered into paying a sub fee for content that doesn't arrive ....the old sucker sub fee for development and then full cost expansion model is just a scam

  Vhaln

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Joined: 7/07/05
Posts: 3167

9/09/12 8:39:03 PM#165
Originally posted by Misaris

interesting point.. let me see, so now some fell into the B2P trap plus cash shop, in approximately 4 months they will expect to get the money from you, which you had paid for a regular MMO sub in between, 13 $ x 4 months.

So, my guess for an "expansion" priced at 49.99$ probably in January or February.

Yeah.. don't expect any free content updates with this game.

 

Except that if B2P = More boxes sold = more money to keep developing the game.  

OTOH, ceasing development = stagnating game = falling popularity = falling sales.

 

They definitely want people to keep playing, and continuing to add content (both free and paid) is a vital part of that.  People who stop playing aren't likely to pay for anything, and low population makes the game look bad, crippling its ability to keep selling.

 

The advantages of B2P are more complex than most people seem to realize.

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  dreamscaper

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Joined: 8/14/08
Posts: 1273

9/09/12 8:42:10 PM#166
Originally posted by remyburke
I've been playing these types of games for a long time, and I really can't wrap my head around those saying they think the game is shit. It's an amazingly well made game. Ahh well.

 

It's probably aggravation with the hype scene for MMORPGs. To look at  my post history you would think I hate the game, when that's not the case - I think it's a well-designed game, but I''ve been annoyed by the legion of fans who speak of it as if it's the MMORPG Jesus (Protip: It isn't).

 

Is the game well-designed? Yes.

Do I think it moves the genre forward? Only in so far as it adds to the push away from standard fantasy races.

Is it going to make WoW sweat? No more than SWTOR or any of the other games that have targeted their corner of the market.

<3

  Bad.dog

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Joined: 5/20/10
Posts: 1024

9/09/12 8:56:09 PM#167
Originally posted by dreamscaper
Originally posted by remyburke
I've been playing these types of games for a long time, and I really can't wrap my head around those saying they think the game is shit. It's an amazingly well made game. Ahh well.

 

It's probably aggravation with the hype scene for MMORPGs. To look at  my post history you would think I hate the game, when that's not the case - I think it's a well-designed game, but I''ve been annoyed by the legion of fans who speak of it as if it's the MMORPG Jesus (Protip: It isn't).

 

Is the game well-designed? Yes.

Do I think it moves the genre forward? Only in so far as it adds to the push away from standard fantasy races.

Is it going to make WoW sweat? No more than SWTOR or any of the other games that have targeted their corner of the market.

See what I find funny is I never hear fans using or saying any of the hype words ....the second comming ,Jesus and the holy grail are all phrases used by the haters .I also don't see GW2 making WOW sweat ,,,,I'm sure all they want are a  share of the 9 million former WoW players ...the 2 million or so present players are a lost cause anyways

  grimal

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Joined: 9/11/05
Posts: 2189

9/09/12 9:11:17 PM#168
Originally posted by Bad.dog

See what I find funny is I never hear fans using or saying any of the hype words ....the second comming ,Jesus and the holy grail are all phrases used by the haters .I also don't see GW2 making WOW sweat ,,,,I'm sure all they want are a  share of the 9 million former WoW players ...the 2 million or so present players are a lost cause anyways

Not this again.

Do a little search on the forums.  It's really not that hard to miss.

And yes, the fans here did hype the bajeezus out of this one.

"I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you." - Robin Williams

  GeezerGamer

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Joined: 4/03/12
Posts: 4757

9/09/12 9:34:33 PM#169
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Bad.dog

See what I find funny is I never hear fans using or saying any of the hype words ....the second comming ,Jesus and the holy grail are all phrases used by the haters .I also don't see GW2 making WOW sweat ,,,,I'm sure all they want are a  share of the 9 million former WoW players ...the 2 million or so present players are a lost cause anyways

Not this again.

Do a little search on the forums.  It's really not that hard to miss.

And yes, the fans here did hype the bajeezus out of this one.

And while the fans wont actually use the term "Messiah" or some such reference anymore, It wasn't that long ago that we did see it treated as such. Also, Take a look at these threads, and show me how many times, the fans have acknowleged the OP's complaint without trying to somehow discredit, diminish or derail it. Almost without exception, they simply don't exist. So while the fans won't use the term, they sure do treat it as such and anyone who disagrees is treated as a "blashphemer". This why the term has surfaced.  With the history on these boards, the hyperbole is justified.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  cylon8

Advanced Member

Joined: 6/10/07
Posts: 306

9/09/12 9:40:50 PM#170

am i the only one who would love to see angry joe naked?

 

so say we all

  Darkcrystal

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/06/10
Posts: 773

9/09/12 9:43:50 PM#171
Originally posted by krakra70
You are not alone. The only thing saves this game at the moment is that it's B2P. If it was P2P it would be a worse disaster than swtor.

I couldn't of  agree more, this game is trash with the bugs and the game is just easy, boring, the PVP is trash, I thought GW1 was bad, this is just as bad.... People complain about SWTOR and Rift, , Tera etc, atleast they  had things they where promising...

 

This game is boring...

  doodphace

Elite Member

Joined: 6/19/12
Posts: 1498

9/09/12 9:50:22 PM#172
Originally posted by Bad.dog
Originally posted by dreamscaper
Originally posted by remyburke
I've been playing these types of games for a long time, and I really can't wrap my head around those saying they think the game is shit. It's an amazingly well made game. Ahh well.

 

It's probably aggravation with the hype scene for MMORPGs. To look at  my post history you would think I hate the game, when that's not the case - I think it's a well-designed game, but I''ve been annoyed by the legion of fans who speak of it as if it's the MMORPG Jesus (Protip: It isn't).

 

Is the game well-designed? Yes.

Do I think it moves the genre forward? Only in so far as it adds to the push away from standard fantasy races.

Is it going to make WoW sweat? No more than SWTOR or any of the other games that have targeted their corner of the market.

See what I find funny is I never hear fans using or saying any of the hype words ....the second comming ,Jesus and the holy grail are all phrases used by the haters .I also don't see GW2 making WOW sweat ,,,,I'm sure all they want are a  share of the 9 million former WoW players ...the 2 million or so present players are a lost cause anyways

Not sure what that post ment, but had to comment on the last part.....wow has 9 million active players, down from 13...so ya...

  bosmer24

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/28/04
Posts: 114

9/09/12 10:04:23 PM#173

You know i've been considering getting GW2,then i read a negative review on it.Then i'll happen to read a a very positive review on it and it's as if the beatles are coming to shea stadium again and i have to buy.Then something happens or i read another blah blah all the same crap like wow review then i get disuaded.Sixty dollars is quite a bit of money for me to spend on something  I might only play for five minutes.

I've never been on the fence about a game for so long.I guess my best option is to wait for the price to drop.Glad you all love it,but i've just been burned one too many times.

  kaiser3282

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Joined: 5/21/08
Posts: 2645

9/10/12 2:02:17 AM#174
Originally posted by Nikkita
Originally posted by sookster54

 


Originally posted by kadepsyson
Fail.  I got one out of a black lion chest.  Black Lion chests are unlocked with cash shop keys.

 

Try again please.



Funny, I've been unlocking Black Lion chests without spending a single cent on the cash shop, you can loot keys too and get them as rewards in map achievements.

 

I really doubt you have been unlocking chests. You make it sound as if keys drop like candies. I have 4 alts ranging from lvl 20 to 40 and i have got 2 keys from drops and another 1 through personal story reward. In my bank i have 20 chests now waiting to be opened.

So either you are very lucky or just making stuff up to make him look like a liar.

You ALWAYS get a key from the end of your 1st main personal story chain / boss fight. If you claim to have only gotten 1 across 4 toons, then youre simply not doing the storyline. Dont try to make it look as if its a low chance to get one.

  kaiser3282

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9/10/12 2:08:49 AM#175
Originally posted by Misaris
Originally posted by StanlyStanko
Originally posted by kishe

Arenanet doesnt care if you dont play the game after two months of playing...all they care about is that you'll buy the 60$ expansion when they launch it in 6 months.

They better not be 60

interesting point.. let me see, so now some fell into the B2P trap plus cash shop, in approximately 4 months they will expect to get the money from you, which you had paid for a regular MMO sub in between, 13 $ x 4 months.

So, my guess for an "expansion" priced at 49.99$ probably in January or February.

Yeah.. don't expect any free content updates with this game.

Um... GW1 had how many expansions over how many years? 3 expansions, 7 years.... yeah that really sounds like every 4 months. They also did add in new content aside from the paid expansions.

Please dont sit here and try to act like every P2P MMO gives you free content updates, especially on a regular basis. Most add nothing new without buying an expansion which also costs the price of a new game, and you have to pay monthly subs on top of it.

BTW. When youre paying $15 per month, that content is not free. Even if you resub for 1 month just to try it, you just paid $15 for it.

  JeroKane

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Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 5173

9/10/12 2:24:13 AM#176

I think it's the whole skill system and the way they did it is fundamentally flawed.

When you have 80 levels of content to go through and able to unlock all your skills before you're level 10, then you've got a problem. Especially in a themepark game.

Just increasing stats with traits for 70 levels is just borefest. Period!

The moment you've unlocked all weapon skills, you basically done. You're stuck spamming/cycling the same 5 - 9 skills over and over again until lvl80.

At least on my Ranger it took me to level 18 or so to unlock all weapon skills.

But on my engineer I was absolutely bored and unlocked both weapons before level 6, because it has only 2 weapon skills (gun and rifle) ! Terrible.

But I guess it's because the game has been designed for PVP and want everyone to unlock all skills as fast as possible. That's fine!

But for 80 levels of PVE content this design philosophy is absolutely terrible. :-(

Within 1 week I am back playing TSW and actually enjoying and appreciating it much much more than before. /shrug

  kaiser3282

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9/10/12 2:32:59 AM#177
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Bad.dog

See what I find funny is I never hear fans using or saying any of the hype words ....the second comming ,Jesus and the holy grail are all phrases used by the haters .I also don't see GW2 making WOW sweat ,,,,I'm sure all they want are a  share of the 9 million former WoW players ...the 2 million or so present players are a lost cause anyways

Not this again.

Do a little search on the forums.  It's really not that hard to miss.

And yes, the fans here did hype the bajeezus out of this one.

And while the fans wont actually use the term "Messiah" or some such reference anymore, It wasn't that long ago that we did see it treated as such. Also, Take a look at these threads, and show me how many times, the fans have acknowleged the OP's complaint without trying to somehow discredit, diminish or derail it. Almost without exception, they simply don't exist. So while the fans won't use the term, they sure do treat it as such and anyone who disagrees is treated as a "blashphemer". This why the term has surfaced.  With the history on these boards, the hyperbole is justified.

Discredit? Simple Point:

OP - there is no character progression / customization / variation

Reality - At level 80 you will have approx 75 different Traits to choose from, along with the direct stat boosts given by spending point sin specific Trait lines. Approx 20-25 Utility skills depending on class, and 7 Elite skills.

You act is if we are discrediting him with false inormation. Theres a difference between that, and correcting people.

Playing the game and having the slightest understanding of the game mechanics FTW!

  kaiser3282

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9/10/12 2:36:26 AM#178
Originally posted by JeroKane

I think it's the whole skill system and the way they did it is fundamentally flawed.

When you have 80 levels of content to go through and able to unlock all your skills before you're level 10, then you've got a problem. Especially in a themepark game.

Just increasing stats with traits for 70 levels is just borefest. Period!

The moment you've unlocked all weapon skills, you basically done. You're stuck spamming/cycling the same 5 - 9 skills over and over again until lvl80.

At least on my Ranger it took me to level 18 or so to unlock all weapon skills.

But on my engineer I was absolutely bored and unlocked both weapons before level 6, because it has only 2 weapon skills (gun and rifle) ! Terrible.

But I guess it's because the game has been designed for PVP and want everyone to unlock all skills as fast as possible. That's fine!

But for 80 levels of PVE content this design philosophy is absolutely terrible. :-(

Within 1 week I am back playing TSW and actually enjoying and appreciating it much much more than before. /shrug

Engineers have less weapons because they have a variety of kits to use, which give you a whole new set of skills. You havent even unlocked your 1st kit until minimum level 5. There are several kits in different tiers and you wont have access to all of your kits until youve spent a minimum of 26 skill points, and thats if you buy a kit as your 1st thing in the 3rd tier.

The variety given by kits is why Engis also dont have weapon swapping. Similar to how elementalists dont have weapon swap because they have access to 20 different skills through their 4 attunements with any weapon.

  Emerwyn

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Unliving.

9/10/12 2:43:46 AM#179
I think most people who have opened their eyes to see what really is there have noticed that there isn't much at all.
  MurlockDance

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9/10/12 3:24:50 AM#180
Originally posted by Demmi77

it's not for everyone, i am sorry you feel like you wasted money on it op.

 

the skill system is the first 5 skills are attached to your weapon and/or secondary weapon. If you use a sword and shield you get a set of skills. if you use a two handed sword there are different skills. for example i play a guardian, plus with weapon swapping, you add more. let's start with weapon skills first though.

i use a greatsword and swap it with a scepter/shield, that right there is 8 unique skills. There are sword/shield, hammer, mace, staff, etc. ALl providing different skills. you have your 6-10 skills slots as well, these you get from getting skill points around the map. There are a variety of these from passive bonuses to active bonuses.

The skill system in guild wars 2 is so intense and brings about a level of complication not really seen in a while. When i am out farming i run a signet build with my greatsword pushing as much damage. WHen i pvp, or dungeon, i have around 9 options depending on the group and dungeon. Swapping weapons, from support to damage to tank and back and forth. To really play this game and enjoy it you really have to get out of the wow ui mentality and understnad how abilities really work. 

This isnt even counting the water combat skills weapons which are another addition. If what you want is to level up get fireball rank 1, rank 2 , immolate rank 1 rank 2 etc.. and then spam the same ability on kobolds while leveling , then more power to you. I pesonally enjoy learning the pros and cons of each weapon and it's skill set. In pvp the weapon/skill choices add so much variety it's amazing. 

 

questing, if you don't like it again, that's fine but the way you laid it out is also incomplete. When you enter the first zone there are the hearts all over the map, there are points of interest , vistas, and dynamic events occurring. In just about every other mmo, you go to the first town. Go kill 10 wolves/goats or whatever, go back, get another quest go back. In guild wars 2 you have one quest in that area. It almost always involves something other than killing as well. I choose to do the killing cause im lazy but there are other options. A lot of the time dynamic events ocurr in these areas as well. Which pushes it along quicker.

Each quest (heart npc) takes 10 minutes at most to do. THere is also the exploration, gathering that give xp. When you finish the heart you also get the option to buy from that npc vendor. 

between the dynamic events, and the exploration. I don't understand how you can prefer rift/wow over something that keeps you more involved. Guild wars 2 promotes social play without requiring you to "find a group". People run around questing and helping everyone out. There is no kills tealing of mobs, nodes, xp. 

Does it get tiresome after a while? well yah but that's why there is wvw and crafting and pvp and dungeons. The dungeons arent' a chore like wow, you do them a couple times and when they get easier they also get faster. The leveling/item scaling in dungeons is also nice. I run CM with a friend who is level 40, he gets his 40 items , and the mobs drop my level appropriate items. So you aren't forced to run specific dungeons. THe scaling makes choice a viable option in pve in this game.

i don't really understand the progression argument either. your chracter in guild wars two progresses much further than in wow / rift. In every other mmo , it's an item grind. In guild wars two you have traits, you have personal dyes, cosmetics, achievements, etc. Compared to other mmo's this game really isn't much different than wow, rift, etc... maybe even a little bit  more involved. You can make your character anything you want in guild wars 2, in wow, you are forced into a much more narrow character life. In guild wars you are not.

pvp is still in it's infacy, and you are not "forced" to stand still casting a lot of spells. In fact, position means much more in guild wars 2 than it does in alot of other mmos. Dodging, skill placement, and skill usage are important. I do agree that there are alot of spam fests in choke points in wvw, but it's not designed as a 40 minute battle. It will take coordination to seriously dominate a wvw map. 

being able to max level and spvp has always been a guild wars thing, and it's not gear dependant. SInce you have a lack of understanding on teh skill system, pvp will probably make you hate it. 

Guild wars 2 is just a new and improved guild wars 1 with, a more mmo feel, a larger pvp focuse and a much larger starting game. What it sounds like op, is that you want a yellow exlamation, be told where to go, go back, go out, go back, move on, you want a old school skill system, and you want to have a direct item advantage over people instead of relying on your skill as a player. 

with all the other crap releases of games, swtor etc.. guild wars 2 is actually the closest thing to a complete launch of a game the mmo community has experienced in years.

 

 

This is a really good post! Thanks for detailing these aspects, and makes me more inclined to try the game out once it is available again. My faith in ANet was shaken with all of the stories of accounts hacked, I guess that is the last obstacle once they release more codes.

I am very interested in GW2 as a game with a different mentality to WoW, which I play as my main game and what you describe is more what I am looking for.

 

Edit - to poster above me, what is in the game is what you make of it. The devs can only offer so much, then it is up to us players. I used to think that WoW had nothing for me at max level to do since I dislike BG-style PvP and raids, but I was wrong. I am having an absolute blast with my level 85s and very little of it is to do with gear-acquisition.

Playing MUDs and MMOs since 1994.

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