Finally, a dev that gets it. First expansion out the gate adds player housing and triples the land mass. Trion is making all the right decisions with this game and I gotta give them props.

Me too. I think Trion are a quality dev.

It probably isn't fair to say it, but if the game had released in the state that the expack will finally put it in I would probably still be playing it.

Rift is the one game I would consider going back to

But it is still just a gear grind for more gear etc ?

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Originally posted by Grailer
Rift is the one game I would consider going back to

But it is still just a gear grind for more gear etc ?

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i got all the gear I needed for what I wanted to do in one weekend. now I can choose from many types of end game group content and just jump in and play. i still get currency towards even better gear (though its not a necessity) and I also gain xp towards planar attunement (alternative advancement) which is pretty cool. Or I can go fishing and cook, or open crafting rifts, or pop my solo build and go to ember isle, or follow invasions, or mentor down and help lowbies while still getting rewards i can use, or instant adventure making every zone in the game viable or conquest or grab a buddy and do a chronicle, or choose tank,support, dps, or heals with the same character and run a dungeon.

Now when storm legion comes out, i'll get all new versions of the stuff I just mentioned plus player housing, roaming world bosses and some serious land to explore.

Originally posted by Krytycal
Not to mention their next project, Defiance, is looking good too.

with firefall and planetside 2 coming this game has no chance.

but i admit for a newbie company they did good with rift and are probably the fastest company out there making content

if they keep up like this their next mmorpg will be bomb

Originally posted by Foomerang

 

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Originally posted by Grailer
Rift is the one game I would consider going back to

 

But it is still just a gear grind for more gear etc ?

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if you want it to be, yeah.

 

i got all the gear I needed for what I wanted to do in one weekend. now I can choose from many types of end game group content and just jump in and play. i still get currency towards even better gear (though its not a necessity) and I also gain xp towards planar attunement (alternative advancement) which is pretty cool. Or I can go fishing and cook, or open crafting rifts, or pop my solo build and go to ember isle, or follow invasions, or mentor down and help lowbies while still getting rewards i can use, or instant adventure making every zone in the game viable or conquest or grab a buddy and do a chronicle, or choose tank,support, dps, or heals with the same character and run a dungeon.

Now when storm legion comes out, i'll get all new versions of the stuff I just mentioned plus player housing, roaming world bosses and some serious land to explore.

Can you elaborate about that please? I tried the mentoring system and the only advantage i saw was you could get experience in zones that were gray to you before. What kind of rewards are you referring to? I ask because i think getting level aproppiate loot while mentoring a la Gw2 would be a smart move.

Rift is definately a quality effort, Im amazed at the openness and effective communication of the devs and moderators, its not like that other new game I wont name here, the one with the heavy handed moderators censoring and banning people on some kind of power trip. Rift is a very solid game with lots of good quality pve raids & many decent warfronts for pvp.  Rifts graphics are excellent imho, I think its the lack of familarity with the game that has people trying it, but going back to wow and what they know. All the rift devs need to do now is buy poor Crucia some underwear, the poor girl looks cold :)

What rift really needs to grow is more players, I know that sounds silly, buts its true, people need to see lots of other people about to feel like its a long term game for them, hopefully storm legion will help with that.

Originally posted by Vesavius

Me too. I think Trion are a quality dev.

It probably isn't fair to say it, but if the game had released in the state that the expack will finally put it in I would probably still be playing it.

true words, and yet someone said about macro based gamestyle, i dont like that either , its like made for lazy players ;)

I enjoyed rift until the end game and thats because the end game wasn't anything different than your standard themepark game. The leveling was nice and collecting was decent, but after that it became the same old "repeat dungeon x number of time to get gear to move to the next dungeon to do it all over again" I've never enjoyed that type of game play. The PvP wasn't much better either (I hate the whole concept of having to grind rep to PvP on an even playing field)

All that said, Rift is a good themepark game if gear treadmills are your thing (from the hate on GW2 for lacking just that, it appears to be many people's thing). 

I cannot comment on the expansion, but unless they devianted from this mold I don't see any reason to go back. Player housing is a nice feature, but if its instanced whats the point?

Originally posted by Foomerang

Finally, a dev that gets it. First expansion out the gate adds player housing and triples the land mass. Trion is making all the right decisions with this game and I gotta give them props.

Hmm, I may have to look into checking this out again. I really, really loved Rift's Souls/class design. But I absolutly hated its condensed gameplay world.

If they've spaced things out a little (a lot) better, I may resubscribe. Tripling puts it still way below WoW, and probably even TOR, and obviously nowhere in the same league as GW2, but at least its an improvement.

Player housing is something that I really want, but its always disappointing the way MMO companies do it. So I have a wait and see attitude.

It all looks very cool. I'm very impressed with all the things Trion added to their game up until now. If you compare that with some other dev teams out there, .... wow.

This strong team is one of the reasons I'm looking forward to Defiance.

Didn't play Rift after the beta because I didn't really see any replay value after I'd already done most of the level-up content, but it would be my first game of choice to go back to if I ever get into a period without a game of choice.

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Originally posted by freston

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Originally posted by Foomerang  

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Originally posted by Grailer Rift is the one game I would consider going back to   But it is still just a gear grind for more gear etc ?

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if you want it to be, yeah.   i got all the gear I needed for what I wanted to do in one weekend. now I can choose from many types of end game group content and just jump in and play. i still get currency towards even better gear (though its not a necessity) and I also gain xp towards planar attunement (alternative advancement) which is pretty cool. Or I can go fishing and cook, or open crafting rifts, or pop my solo build and go to ember isle, or follow invasions, or mentor down and help lowbies while still getting rewards i can use, or instant adventure making every zone in the game viable or conquest or grab a buddy and do a chronicle, or choose tank,support, dps, or heals with the same character and run a dungeon. Now when storm legion comes out, i'll get all new versions of the stuff I just mentioned plus player housing, roaming world bosses and some serious land to explore.

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Can you elaborate about that please? I tried the mentoring system and the only advantage i saw was you could get experience in zones that were gray to you before. What kind of rewards are you referring to? I ask because i think getting level aproppiate loot while mentoring a la Gw2 would be a smart move.

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You get xp towards planar attunement, which is basically stats and abilities toward 6 rift types and a pvp attunement. You also get sourcestones appropriate to your level which can be traded for items and gear. You also have chances to loot cosmetic gear and crafting recipes.

Instant adventure basically teleports you to a group or raid in a zone and levels you down so its not a steamroll. You then do a quest chain with that group or raid that eventually ends in a boss fight. You get to enjoy all the areas of the game, meet and help newer players, and get rewards you can use.

Ember isle is a lot of fun too repairing and ugrading healing turrets and damage turrets with troops, then defend waves of invasions. My favorite is still raid rifts and zone invasions. I dont worry about gear, but I rarely pvp and i dont do instanced raids. I can easily heal expert dungeons and rift raids with the gear i got from a weekend of running dungeons. I just log on and do whatever I feel like which usually ends up with me upgrading a piece of gear anyway heh.

Originally posted by maji
I like Rift. What put me off was the lack of choice where to go to. I mean think about World of Warcraft. You could level up several characters without seeing the same zone more than once. In Rift? Two starting zones and level up paths for the entire game. T_T I don't know about the "1 button macro" style gameplay I'm reading about. If it's true, then t hat would be the second reason that keeps me from resubbing.

You had choices of where to go in Rift once you hit the late level 30's. Totally agree with the OP Rift has seen some excellent development and high quality content added in such a short space of time. Hpefully Storm Legion gives people on the fence about the game that final push to try it, Storm Legion could brighten the future for Rift if it maages to capture all who return,

Subscription, without me ..

gotta say I miss my bard ..

I'll prolly be checking out the xpack