OMG this is driving crazy, it's like a freaking broken record at this point.  The same arguments over and over, and it's all because of two things that need to stop:

Fans:   Stop implying that if someone dislikes the game they are wrong.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this just drives the anti fans crazy.

Anti-fans:  Stop trying to claim that the game is bad overall because YOU don't like it.  This is ridiculously egocentric, and given the fact that the game has a 93% on metacritic, is pretty ridiculous.

If these two behaviors stop, 80% of the arguments here can be avoided.

Originally posted by Creslin321

OMG this is driving crazy, it's like a freaking broken record at this point.  The same arguments over and over, and it's all because of two things that need to stop:

Fans:   Stop implying that if someone dislikes the game they are wrong.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this just drives the anti fans crazy.

Anti-fans:  Stop trying to claim that the game is bad overall because YOU don't like it.  This is ridiculously egocentric, and given the fact that the game has a 93% on metacritic, is pretty ridiculous.

 

If these two behaviors stop, 80% of the arguments here can be avoided.

Common sense and reason... it'll never work.

Originally posted by Creslin321

OMG this is driving crazy, it's like a freaking broken record at this point.  The same arguments over and over, and it's all because of two things that need to stop:

Fans:   Stop implying that if someone dislikes the game they are wrong.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this just drives the anti fans crazy.

Anti-fans:  Stop trying to claim that the game is bad overall because YOU don't like it.  This is ridiculously egocentric, and given the fact that the game has a 93% on metacritic, is pretty ridiculous.

 

If these two behaviors stop, 80% of the arguments here can be avoided.

We're human btw.

Originally posted by Creslin321

OMG this is driving crazy, it's like a freaking broken record at this point.  The same arguments over and over, and it's all because of two things that need to stop:

Fans:   Stop implying that if someone dislikes the game they are wrong.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this just drives the anti fans crazy.

Anti-fans:  Stop trying to claim that the game is bad overall because YOU don't like it.  This is ridiculously egocentric, and given the fact that the game has a 93% on metacritic, is pretty ridiculous.

 

If these two behaviors stop, 80% of the arguments here can be avoided.

Come on man you, and I both know that won't happen your dreaming lol. People in general on the internet love to fight, this site more than others.

Originally posted by Justin83x

Originally posted by Creslin321

OMG this is driving crazy, it's like a freaking broken record at this point.  The same arguments over and over, and it's all because of two things that need to stop:

Fans:   Stop implying that if someone dislikes the game they are wrong.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this just drives the anti fans crazy.

Anti-fans:  Stop trying to claim that the game is bad overall because YOU don't like it.  This is ridiculously egocentric, and given the fact that the game has a 93% on metacritic, is pretty ridiculous.

 

If these two behaviors stop, 80% of the arguments here can be avoided.

Come on man you, and I both know that won't happen your dreaming lol. People in general on the internet love to fight, this site more than others.

You obviously have never been on a political forum, this place is cake.

Originally posted by Creslin321

OMG this is driving crazy, it's like a freaking broken record at this point.  The same arguments over and over, and it's all because of two things that need to stop:

Fans:   Stop implying that if someone dislikes the game they are wrong.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this just drives the anti fans crazy.

Anti-fans:  Stop trying to claim that the game is bad overall because YOU don't like it.  This is ridiculously egocentric, and given the fact that the game has a 93% on metacritic, is pretty ridiculous.

 

If these two behaviors stop, 80% of the arguments here can be avoided.

Well to be fair about the metacritic thing, critics aren't always accurate (or they are even blatantly untruthful in their reviews), and a high initial score doesn't necessarily mean the game will/can last.

Originally posted by Justin83x

Originally posted by Creslin321

OMG this is driving crazy, it's like a freaking broken record at this point.  The same arguments over and over, and it's all because of two things that need to stop:

Fans:   Stop implying that if someone dislikes the game they are wrong.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this just drives the anti fans crazy.

Anti-fans:  Stop trying to claim that the game is bad overall because YOU don't like it.  This is ridiculously egocentric, and given the fact that the game has a 93% on metacritic, is pretty ridiculous.

 

If these two behaviors stop, 80% of the arguments here can be avoided.

Come on man you, and I both know that won't happen your dreaming lol. People in general on the internet love to fight, this site more than others.

I know man, I know,  I just want to have a different fight at this point lol :).  I've been having the same fight since bwe1 at this point.

Originally posted by Creslin321

OMG this is driving crazy, it's like a freaking broken record at this point.  The same arguments over and over, and it's all because of two things that need to stop:

Fans:   Stop implying that if someone dislikes the game they are wrong.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this just drives the anti fans crazy.

Anti-fans:  Stop trying to claim that the game is bad overall because YOU don't like it.  This is ridiculously egocentric, and given the fact that the game has a 93% on metacritic, is pretty ridiculous.

 

If these two behaviors stop, 80% of the arguments here can be avoided.

  If that happened this forum would dry up and become a ghost town.

 Its ALL about opinions everyone has one and most of them stink.

 ie we all know theres only one way to play GW2 some people just need to be told that they aren't playing it correctly and how they should play it ;)

Originally posted by Johnie-Marz

Originally posted by Justin83x

Originally posted by Creslin321

OMG this is driving crazy, it's like a freaking broken record at this point.  The same arguments over and over, and it's all because of two things that need to stop:

Fans:   Stop implying that if someone dislikes the game they are wrong.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this just drives the anti fans crazy.

Anti-fans:  Stop trying to claim that the game is bad overall because YOU don't like it.  This is ridiculously egocentric, and given the fact that the game has a 93% on metacritic, is pretty ridiculous.

 

If these two behaviors stop, 80% of the arguments here can be avoided.

Come on man you, and I both know that won't happen your dreaming lol. People in general on the internet love to fight, this site more than others.

You obviously have never been on a political forum, this place is cake.

Lol, you sir are correct. I just meant in my experience in general. I prolly should've added that lol.

Originally posted by Creslin321

OMG this is driving crazy, it's like a freaking broken record at this point.  The same arguments over and over, and it's all because of two things that need to stop:

Fans:   Stop implying that if someone dislikes the game they are wrong.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this just drives the anti fans crazy.

Anti-fans:  Stop trying to claim that the game is bad overall because YOU don't like it.  This is ridiculously egocentric, and given the fact that the game has a 93% on metacritic, is pretty ridiculous.

 

If these two behaviors stop, 80% of the arguments here can be avoided.

How dare you make sense on these forums especially.  Unfortunately it is this way with every game.  Just gotta cut through BS and read between the lines to get to truth is all.

you tell people to stop, but what you really mean is people stop bashing the game.  You act like you want to mediate peace, but bring up the already-debunked metacritic argument?

give me a break.

The way some people behave on this site, and the fact that this site is basically an open colliseum for verbal warfare, helps ensure that MMORPG.com will never be taken seriously in this industry.

This is why, despite every effort, featurettes like the MMOFTW cast are looked upon as not worthwhile (the ultra cheeseball intro doesn't help, but hey, Bill seems to think people like it). It is also a large part of the reason why Gamebreaker and similar entities have been so successful, they don't draw in the same crowd of people that this site does and they take there jobs over there seriously.

My point is this: you'll never get this site to a point where people are generally civil to one another without heavy handed moderation from a staff large enough to police the entire forum 24/7.

That won't happen, so you might as well stop hoping and accept that things here are the way they will always be.

Originally posted by adam_nox

you tell people to stop, but what you really mean is people stop bashing the game.  You act like you want to mediate peace, but bring up the already-debunked metacritic argument?

 

give me a break.

Did you read the whole post or only the part you wanted to see?

Also, how have you "debunked" the "myth" of critical reviews.

Here's the issue (and really, the issue with USA in general):

Too many people believe their opinion is the only valid opinion. They are entirely unwilling to see the validity in any of the other side's argument. Sure, sometimes what the other person is arguing makes zero sense, and so you should take apart their argument with logic, not insult.

Examples:

GW2 is a horrible game because it has no classic trinity.

GW2 is an amazing game because it has no classic trinity.

Dynamic events are totally different from anything else out there

Dynamic events are the same as quest hubs with just a different skin

Here's the reality, the lack of classic trinity just makes the game different. I'm not even sure I like it yet, but it doesn't really make the game good or bad. It makes it different.  

As far as dynamic events are concerned, both are true.

Just stop fighting about it. And if you have to argue, argue constructively. Condescension will not take you far in the real world, and it won't take you far here either. Nobody likes an ass. 

Originally posted by Johnie-Marz
btw, this is really cool; I have been waiting a while for a big fight over how we shoudn't fight. *eats popcorn*

It's a meta fight lol.

Originally posted by Creslin321 

If these two behaviors stop, 80% of the arguments here can be avoided.

Then what would be the point of coming to these forums?

Originally posted by Johnie-Marz

Originally posted by Justin83x

Originally posted by Creslin321

OMG this is driving crazy, it's like a freaking broken record at this point.  The same arguments over and over, and it's all because of two things that need to stop:

Fans:   Stop implying that if someone dislikes the game they are wrong.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this just drives the anti fans crazy.

Anti-fans:  Stop trying to claim that the game is bad overall because YOU don't like it.  This is ridiculously egocentric, and given the fact that the game has a 93% on metacritic, is pretty ridiculous.

 

If these two behaviors stop, 80% of the arguments here can be avoided.

Come on man you, and I both know that won't happen your dreaming lol. People in general on the internet love to fight, this site more than others.

You obviously have never been on a political forum, this place is cake.

Haha. So true.  Try IRC politics though. Real-time haters & fanboys fighting. :p

As for the OP..  This is a discussion forum afterall, so there's always going to be people talking about the game, whether they like or dislike, love or hate it.  Just don't let it get to you. :p