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  Lokberg

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9/08/12 9:53:02 PM#21
Originally posted by Atlan99
Originally posted by JimmyYO 

Why would companies stop making themeparks when everyone keeps buying them purely from hype?

Not only that but Arenanet has figured out how to squeeze more money out of it's customers with the cash shop. Even if people stop playing they have already sepnt money on Bank space, bag space and character slots.

oh so 60 box with +10 a month counter 60 box and optional 10 a month on fluff, bank space, bag space and char slots is bad?

I havent spent a single cent and have unlocked 2 char slots with just gaming and trade gold to gems.

  remyburke

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9/08/12 9:57:22 PM#22
I've been playing these types of games for a long time, and I really can't wrap my head around those saying they think the game is shit. It's an amazingly well made game. Ahh well.

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  Eir_S

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9/08/12 9:58:27 PM#23
Originally posted by Lokberg
Originally posted by Atlan99
Originally posted by JimmyYO 

Why would companies stop making themeparks when everyone keeps buying them purely from hype?

Not only that but Arenanet has figured out how to squeeze more money out of it's customers with the cash shop. Even if people stop playing they have already sepnt money on Bank space, bag space and character slots.

oh so 60 box with +10 a month counter 60 box and optional 10 a month on fluff, bank space, bag space and char slots is bad?

I havent spent a single cent and have unlocked 2 char slots with just gaming and trade gold to gems.

Lies.  ANet is "squeezing" money out of you, trading payment for the ability to even log-in and play the game, otherwise it's just a coaster on your shelf.  

Oh no wait, I'm thinking of another payment model.

  Atlan99

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9/08/12 10:03:53 PM#24
Originally posted by Lokbergs.

oh so 60 box with +10 a month counter 60 box and optional 10 a month on fluff, bank space, bag space and char slots is bad?

I havent spent a single cent and have unlocked 2 char slots with just gaming and trade gold to gems.

Let's examine another case. A person buys traditional mmo plays for 1 month and pays box price. Later he buys product b which he pays box price for. He also decides to buy extra bag and bank space. He again plays it for 1 month and pays box price plus an extra 50 dollars for bank and bag space he bought.

  lizardbones

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9/08/12 10:11:19 PM#25


Originally posted by Atlan99

Originally posted by Lokbergs. oh so 60 box with +10 a month counter 60 box and optional 10 a month on fluff, bank space, bag space and char slots is bad? I havent spent a single cent and have unlocked 2 char slots with just gaming and trade gold to gems.
Let's examine another case. A person buys traditional mmo plays for 1 month and pays box price. Later he buys product b which he pays box price for. He also decides to buy extra bag and bank space. He again plays it for 1 month and pays box price plus an extra 50 dollars for bank and bag space he bought.



The amount spent doesn't matter. What matters is whether or not the player enjoyed their time spent. If the person rates their experience as 'good' in both cases, then in both cases it is money well spent.

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  fiontar

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9/08/12 10:13:35 PM#26

I'm now 165 hours into the game. Add the 150 hours I playtested during beta and I'm at the 315+ hour mark. I still have much, much more to do with this game than I have actually experienced to date. I'm also still having a blast. IMO, this is the best MMO I've played in the almost 14 years I've been playing MMOs.

When it comes to reviews like this one, I try to remind myself that no game is for everyone. The game itself may not be a match for some people and some people just aren't capable of appreciating or enjoying what the game does offer. WoW attracted a lot of non-MMO gamers to the genre, by dumbing down the game further and further with every passing year, so it's no surprise to find that some people just can't deal with an MMO with the depth of GW2.

Reading the review, I find myself asking the same questions I often have to ask with many of the reviews. Did this person even actually play the game? Did they play it a little and some how come away with a really misinformed opinion, because they didn't get far enough to start to "get the game"? Have recent MMOs created some "fans" of the genre that just have no clue what a good MMO is and would never have survived the genre if they had played a decade ago?

The game is beautiful, massive and deep. Combat is fun and the feature set very complete. It's one of the best produced MMOs ever, even if one thing or another keeps it from someone's individual favorite MMO ever list.

The game does have fewer artificial progression rewards. The higher in level you get, the less your character build changes as a result of that progression. Is that the "sink or swim" point for a lot of people with this game? Either they learn to play to enjoy the act of playing and for the joy of exploration, or they get bored and leave because the game didn't provide a finely tuned Skinner's Box with frequent, tangible rewards to keep them playing?

The game offers a hell of a lot for MMO fans, but it also asks a fair amount in return and not everyone is up for the challenge. I know some recent fans to the genre who began with WoW and are loving GW2, so it's not like everyone who came to the genre as a result of WoW is incapable of appreciating this game, but I can't help but believe that there is a fair portion who just aren't suited for an MMO like GW2.

Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated

  Atlan99

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9/08/12 10:19:56 PM#27
Originally posted by fiontar

Snip

Ask not what your mmo can do for you, but what you can do for your mmo.

Really though, are you ever going to stop insinuating that people that don't like the game don't get it? It's a tactic that  many GW2 fans seems to use to try to invalidate other people's opinion's of the game.

You like the game other people don't. Leave it at that.

  StrixMaxima

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9/08/12 10:24:06 PM#28

I was busy playing for the last days, but something crept into my mind... "Trolls must be running amok at MMORPG..."

And, voilá. It's a shame, really, but I'd rather play some more than writing a rebuttal. So, have fun.

  Creslin321

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9/08/12 10:27:35 PM#29

Ooooh these posts.

Listen guys.  It's perfectly fine not to like the game.  No one is going to begrudge your opinion if you just say that the game wasn't for you.

But here's the thing...

As it stands right now, the game is packed with players and is a critical darling...93% on metacritic.  So to call the game "poo" because YOU didn't like it is ummmmm.....stupid.

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  sk8chalif

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9/08/12 10:28:40 PM#30
Originally posted by Atlan99
Originally posted by JimmyYO 

Why would companies stop making themeparks when everyone keeps buying them purely from hype?

Not only that but Arenanet has figured out how to squeeze more money out of it's customers with the cash shop. Even if people stop playing they have already sepnt money on Bank space, bag space and character slots.

i think itsa good way to make money, look just at the bank space. first of all the bank is linked to all the character you make. its easy to full it when u got more then 3 character, your forced to buy space lol :P


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  Ovum

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9/08/12 10:40:28 PM#31

Well, from a casual stand point me and my friends (we are grown ups already, you know families, serious jobs etc. etc.) find the game realy realy nice and fun to play. We are so burnt from the old style mmorpg's that this is a completly new breathe of fresh air.  Hell even on our 3 day off we made a maraton of 15 to 17h straight just because IT'S THAT MUCH FUN! Even now I wonder how come we manged to pull off so many hours straight lol. We couldn't do this even when we were 20 years old. 

True, the game is not for everyone but my point is that for the casual players like us it's a paradise. + no sub fee. Diablo 3 was a huge let down. But this game is worth every penny.

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  Ovum

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9/08/12 10:42:14 PM#32
Originally posted by sk8chalif
Originally posted by Atlan99
Originally posted by JimmyYO 

Why would companies stop making themeparks when everyone keeps buying them purely from hype?

Not only that but Arenanet has figured out how to squeeze more money out of it's customers with the cash shop. Even if people stop playing they have already sepnt money on Bank space, bag space and character slots.

i think itsa good way to make money, look just at the bank space. first of all the bank is linked to all the character you make. its easy to full it when u got more then 3 character, your forced to buy space lol :P

you know for a level 40 as I am, with aprox. 12 gold I find it cheap to convert some for shards. I'm going to do so right now actualy brb.

Music is the science of manipulating people trough sound.

  Lokberg

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Joined: 12/24/05
Posts: 310

9/08/12 10:49:15 PM#33
Originally posted by sk8chalif
Originally posted by Atlan99
Originally posted by JimmyYO 

Why would companies stop making themeparks when everyone keeps buying them purely from hype?

Not only that but Arenanet has figured out how to squeeze more money out of it's customers with the cash shop. Even if people stop playing they have already sepnt money on Bank space, bag space and character slots.

i think itsa good way to make money, look just at the bank space. first of all the bank is linked to all the character you make. its easy to full it when u got more then 3 character, your forced to buy space lol :P

Well that still leaves you two char slots that you can fill up with stuff 20 slot packs and 4 8 slot bags each give you 104 spaces to store things thats 3 bank tabs + 14 spaces without paying a cent.

any other problems i can help you solve mate?

  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

9/08/12 10:50:34 PM#34
Originally posted by Lokberg
Originally posted by sk8chalif
Originally posted by Atlan99
Originally posted by JimmyYO 

Why would companies stop making themeparks when everyone keeps buying them purely from hype?

Not only that but Arenanet has figured out how to squeeze more money out of it's customers with the cash shop. Even if people stop playing they have already sepnt money on Bank space, bag space and character slots.

i think itsa good way to make money, look just at the bank space. first of all the bank is linked to all the character you make. its easy to full it when u got more then 3 character, your forced to buy space lol :P

Well that still leaves you two char slots that you can fill up with stuff 20 slot packs and 4 8 slot bags each give you 104 spaces to store things tthats 3 bank tabs + 14 spaces without paying a cent.

any other problems i can help you solve mate?

It was pretty funny when some items changed to character soulbound after release, so people who used mules got screwed over.  Pretty funny, MATE

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  Amjoco

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9/08/12 10:52:52 PM#35
Originally posted by Creslin321

Ooooh these posts.

Listen guys.  It's perfectly fine not to like the game.  No one is going to begrudge your opinion if you just say that the game wasn't for you.

But here's the thing...

As it stands right now, the game is packed with players and is a critical darling...93% on metacritic.  So to call the game "poo" because YOU didn't like it is ummmmm.....stupid.

Ya, I got up this morning to join my son at 4:30pst and the game was packed full of people. Huge event in the Harathi Highlands at 0-Dark thirty with at least 30 people. That was just in this area on this server. 

You think you are off in a hidden spot by yourself and in bounces a couple players. Players are everywhere and liking it!

Those metacritic scores are smacking the haters in the taters.

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  Lokberg

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Posts: 310

9/08/12 10:53:54 PM#36
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Lokberg
Originally posted by sk8chalif
Originally posted by Atlan99
Originally posted by JimmyYO 

Why would companies stop making themeparks when everyone keeps buying them purely from hype?

Not only that but Arenanet has figured out how to squeeze more money out of it's customers with the cash shop. Even if people stop playing they have already sepnt money on Bank space, bag space and character slots.

i think itsa good way to make money, look just at the bank space. first of all the bank is linked to all the character you make. its easy to full it when u got more then 3 character, your forced to buy space lol :P

Well that still leaves you two char slots that you can fill up with stuff 20 slot packs and 4 8 slot bags each give you 104 spaces to store things tthats 3 bank tabs + 14 spaces without paying a cent.

any other problems i can help you solve mate?

It was pretty funny when some items changed to character soulbound after release, so people who used mules got screwed over.  Pretty funny, MATE

And what soulbound item do you really need to save is it the copper tools vendor em and buy new on the new char, is it the green items you used on one class that you want the look off? find a new green item of same type and transfer the skin.

If not vendor or break it down to materials problem solved

  FlawSGI

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9/08/12 11:05:01 PM#37
Originally posted by Atlan99
Originally posted by Lokbergs.

oh so 60 box with +10 a month counter 60 box and optional 10 a month on fluff, bank space, bag space and char slots is bad?

I havent spent a single cent and have unlocked 2 char slots with just gaming and trade gold to gems.

Let's examine another case. A person buys traditional mmo plays for 1 month and pays box price. Later he buys product b which he pays box price for. He also decides to buy extra bag and bank space. He again plays it for 1 month and pays box price plus an extra 50 dollars for bank and bag space he bought.

Is this really any different than many titles released today. DA2 withheld content to sell it shortly after release and ME3 did it on day one. Or what about the person that joins any of the many P2P + CS and decides to buy that fancy mount only to quit in a month. At least with GW2 I can get my extra bank space and char slots through other means than cash grab and because I like the title I plan on buying a char slot for me and the wife rather than through gameplay as soon as we decide to roll a 6th character. But people can feel free to complain about things like this while kicking dirt over the fact that they implemented an alternative way to obtain these things you speak of.

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  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

9/08/12 11:06:30 PM#38
Originally posted by FlawSGI
Originally posted by Atlan99
Originally posted by Lokbergs.

oh so 60 box with +10 a month counter 60 box and optional 10 a month on fluff, bank space, bag space and char slots is bad?

I havent spent a single cent and have unlocked 2 char slots with just gaming and trade gold to gems.

Let's examine another case. A person buys traditional mmo plays for 1 month and pays box price. Later he buys product b which he pays box price for. He also decides to buy extra bag and bank space. He again plays it for 1 month and pays box price plus an extra 50 dollars for bank and bag space he bought.

Is this really any different than many titles released today. DA2 withheld content to sell it shortly after release and ME3 did it on day one. Or what about the person that joins any of the many P2P + CS and decides to buy that fancy mount only to quit in a month. At least with GW2 I can get my extra bank space and char slots through other means than cash grab and because I like the title I plan on buying a char slot for me and the wife rather than through gameplay as soon as we decide to roll a 6th character. But people can feel free to complain about things like this while kicking dirt over the fact that they implemented an alternative way to obtain these things you speak of.

I've a good alternative way to obtain them.  ACTUAL GAMEPLAY NOT REAL MONEY.  That fancy armor?  FIND IT, don't BUY IT.

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  Tuchaka

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9/08/12 11:11:49 PM#39
these threads tell me much about the person posting and almost nothing about the game itself.
  FlawSGI

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9/08/12 11:12:24 PM#40
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by FlawSGI
 

I've a good alternative way to obtain them.  ACTUAL GAMEPLAY NOT REAL MONEY.  That fancy armor?  FIND IT, don't BUY IT.

Oh most definately. I already bought bank space through gameplay and have near enough gems to get the extra char slot. I only meant that I plan on using actual money when the time comes because I have zero problem supporting a company that put out what I feel is a great product. As to longevity of the game who can say since each person will feel different about this. But I am having a blast and it hasn't fallen off like the last 6 MMO's I have been a part of by week 2.

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