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9/08/12 12:12:31 AM#241
Worst topic ive read on here in weeks.
Hello Kitty Online awaits people that cant figure out the easy dumbed down mmo's. I mean seriously, have you ever played an old mmo? It was 100 times more difficult lol. These newer games are easy as pie, and if you died 2000 times, you should realy look at yourself and not the game.
Want mmo's more easy? Could alwys stick to console rpg's and use cheats ;) |
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9/08/12 2:24:25 AM#242
Originally posted by nariusseldon Typical entitlement complex: "I got mine, so GTFO." |
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9/08/12 3:38:24 AM#243
The gaming companies that make MMO's now want in the social network market. Social network 'gamers' play games that make Hello Kitty Online look complex. So the drive to make MMO's even more simple to expand into that market is going to continue to push MMO's into dumbing down gameplay.
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9/08/12 3:44:59 AM#244
I can relate to the OP. Two of my guildies are not used to twitchbased combat and will likely never get used to that. They loved GW1, but I have a difficult time getting them to like GW2. While I am probably one of those people who welcomes more challenge in a MMO, I hate to lose those two in GW2. That explorable dungeons are tough is to be expected. That you shouldn't enter PVP and expect to win without some dodging skills too. But the personal story can be even real challenging for some of these players, which imo is the wrong place for it. |
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9/08/12 7:07:36 AM#245
You can't be upset that a fanbase voiced its position louder than you and got something changed. I for one enjoy a little difficulty in my MMO's then again I can get passed level 16 on a Mesmer. Not trying to be a jerk here but don't blame a portion of the GW2 fans for you not being able to level a Mesmer. The instances for the story are a joke, level a little higher than is needed then go do the story. I honestly think you jumped in one at a level lower than required and are mad because you could not finish it. Leveling in an MMO is not supposed to be a quick affair, storylines are not supposed to be a joke. I played FFXI from US launch, GW2 is a joke compared to it on a difficulty scale. Just play...better is all I can really say and I hate to boil it down like that but just get better. Switch tactics, do more hearts and events to level then go out and do your story. The level down you are talking about is scaling, so it is fair for everyone and better for you. You get similar experience counts even at level 70 when you're in say a level 15 zone. Relax |
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9/08/12 12:10:31 PM#246
Originally posted by Xthos Then play D3. Paragon leveling is VERY slow and there are many viable builds and variations you can explore. |
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9/08/12 12:13:46 PM#247
Originally posted by KaosProphet I would call it "the customer is always right". If devs want my business, do it so that i like it. If not, i walk. It is a free world. I don't see why my entertainment should be shackled by other people's ideals. There are ALWAYS alternatives. MMOs are not the only entertainment out there. Heck, they are not the only GAMES out there. |
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9/08/12 12:22:24 PM#248
TSW and GW2 are not hard. So not really sure what the problem is. 1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical. 2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself. 3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose. |
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9/08/12 12:25:22 PM#249
Originally posted by nariusseldon Get a job dealing with the public then come back and tell us how "the customer is always right". "How should I know if it works? That's what beta testers are for. I only coded it." |
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9/08/12 12:34:54 PM#250
Originally posted by Elikal People want to have fun. If we need more challenge and higher diffuculty to have fun it will be reasonable to demand it. And if the developers agree its up to them. But I think difficulty must depend on goals. People that cant handle the highest difficulty should have other options. Things that are meaningful and fun. Other goals. It will work that way unless they start to want the same rewards the best players can get. IMO, everyone should be able to play a MMORPG and have fun. The devs must create fun content for most players. But the players also must have the proper attitude. I can enjoy running and cycling. But if I believed I had to be as good as the TDF riders or the olympic runners it would no longer be fun.I cant win the TDF and I will never get gold medals. But i have fun anyway when I train. I mean as long as there is something meaningful to do it is good enough. Dont care about other players. What rewards they can get or what content they can do. Think about you. What can you do? Is it fun? And if it is just ignore the elite. |
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9/08/12 2:05:21 PM#251
Originally posted by nariusseldon As you shackle down the entertainment of others with your ideas, and gloat when you "win." I don't want to infringe on your entertainment, I just want you to stop pissing on mine like an incontinent poodle.
Sure they are - once you've stripped the word of enough meaning, so that everything is an MMO if you say it is. Which is where you're going. |
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9/08/12 2:18:48 PM#252
Go play Call of duty + Aimbot if GW2 is hard. You will bash 1 button to shot and it makes you feel like a real HERO ! |
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9/08/12 7:53:35 PM#253
Originally posted by Elikal While I am not sure you are serious or not I am not a big fan of twitch style combat, and I hope all MMO's don't head in that direction eventually. With that being said I did not like GW2 that much when I first started playing but now I am having a blast, only issue is lack of open world pvp where someone could attack me in the middle of nowhere, and a lack of RP elements as far as the world is soo huge I haven't stayed in one area long enough to get a good feel for it. |
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9/08/12 8:26:42 PM#254
Originally posted by Elikal I agree with you, for the same reason I skipped Dark Souls. I work hard IRL and don't have time to work hard in games. Hell, sometimes I watch cinematics on youtube or set the game on easy just to get through the story. Hard games aren't fun when you only get 5 hours of play time a week and end up spending 3 of them looking at loading screens and repeating content because you died. Error: 37. Signature not found. Please connect to my server for signature access. |
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9/08/12 8:42:21 PM#255
Originally posted by nariusseldon That's exactly why you should stop telling others their opinions are wrong, yours is right, and how companies are making the games you like for the right reasons. Open your perspective a bit. Realize everyone is not you or even like you. Some people like other things and would like a few games that cater to their own wants for a change. Why does every game need to be made how you like it? Not everyone likes drive through gaming. Not everyone wants instant satisfaction. In short...stop being greedy and self serving. Stop shackling the entertainment of others with your ideals. Maybe someday you'll see the journey and enjoy it instead of just enjoying the destination. Maybe not. |
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9/08/12 8:55:13 PM#256
I'm sure with all things there needs to be a balance. Too easy or too hard and you'll get the complaints. You'll never be able to please everyone.
Thanks, |
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9/08/12 8:57:30 PM#257
Sorry OP but I have to agree games today are way to easy. GW2 is not even really that hard. I was doing most of the skill points where you have to kill the elite mobs with ads alone. Just play it some more and find your class and itll become easy,
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9/08/12 9:07:09 PM#258
Originally posted by worldalpha I agree with this part. Which is something game makers don't seem to understand. Instead, they play follow the trend and expect to get all gamers to their one game. It won't happen. Pick an audience. Make the game for that audience. Profit. And for god's sake, get off the pedastals and talk to us. We'll both be better off for it. |
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9/08/12 10:52:13 PM#259
There a game for you people who think mmo these day are too hard. http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/854/Soul-of-Guardian.html Auto-travel Auto-fight Auto-equip Auto-gather Auto- everything After 60 sec you are lvl 10 , you got a mount and all, in fact the only thing you do is accepting the quest and the game do everything for you. That a game for YOU. no joke there.. |
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Lethargic_Synapse
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Joined: 9/09/12
Played: UO, EQ, EQ2, WoW, AoC, DNDO, Aion, FFXI, LOTRO, RoM, DCUO. |
9/09/12 1:39:40 AM#260
God forbid rewards take effort to obtain.
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