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  User Deleted
9/05/12 1:15:56 PM#81

[quote]Originally posted by CrimsonSix
What game do you think all those WoW players are playing right now? -_-[/b][/quote]

The "See how many blu-ray rips you can fit on your hard drive" MMOFPS.

  kostoslav

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9/05/12 1:41:09 PM#82
64 client dont work with x-fire
  Azrile

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9/05/12 9:44:42 PM#83
Originally posted by kostoslav
64 client dont work with x-fire

psst, don´t tell them that.    They need to think that WOW has died.

 

And again,  I stand by my prediction that WOW will sell double in the first 24hrs (only in the west) that GW2 has sold up until that point.

WOW has already doubled since this thread started.  GW2 just does not have legs.   It is free, so the kids without credit cards can play it like runescape.

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  mmojunkie5000

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9/08/12 11:11:42 AM#84
Originally posted by Azrile

And again,  I stand by my prediction that WOW will sell double in the first 24hrs (only in the west) that GW2 has sold up until that point.

WOW has already doubled since this thread started.  GW2 just does not have legs.   It is free, so the kids without credit cards can play it like runescape.

since arenanet halted digital sales of GW2 it won't be a fair comparison.

WoW has 3-4 mil subs in the west and GW2 sold 1 mil pre purchase boxes.

this was 2 days before launch.

I bet once they open sales again, your prediction will look really foolish.

 

GW1 already sold almost 7 mil...

and about the kiddie stuff... wonder what some elite raiders from WoW did when they got into GW2?

a) use exploits to get gold

b) powerleveled to max level like idiots without realizing level means shit in GW2

 

the community on my server in GW2 is 1000% more helpful, friendly and grown like on any of the 2 WoW servers I used to play.

it's not even close by any means.

Arenanet simply bans assholes since they don't need their subs. Blizz keeps them around to "enrich" the community

  mmojunkie5000

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9/08/12 11:14:29 AM#85
Originally posted by kostoslav
64 client dont work with x-fire

WoW had 40-50.000 h on average before any xfire bugs.

 

GW2 has 70-90.000 h

 

so your argument is misleading.

 

  Nikkita

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9/08/12 11:18:50 AM#86
Originally posted by mmojunkie5000
Originally posted by Azrile

And again,  I stand by my prediction that WOW will sell double in the first 24hrs (only in the west) that GW2 has sold up until that point.

WOW has already doubled since this thread started.  GW2 just does not have legs.   It is free, so the kids without credit cards can play it like runescape.

since arenanet halted digital sales of GW2 it won't be a fair comparison.

 

That is their problem. So comparison is fair. But even if sales were not halted GW2 won't be able to match sales number of WOW and its expansions on release day.

MOP is going to shatter all the previous record for sales.


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  Clocksimus

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9/08/12 11:22:51 AM#87
LoL saw an increase in player as friday hit. WoW and GW2 remained about the same as their thurday values.   WoW has actually bounced back (if you want to call less people playing on a 19gb patchday bouncing back) while GW2 has been falling since launch and has yet to recover.  This weekend will be interesting if GW2 is unable to maintain its numbers and WoW has an increase.  The same people using xfire to boost GW2 will most likely not discredit xfire as a valid source of information.
  Vrika

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9/08/12 11:22:52 AM#88
Originally posted by mmojunkie5000
Originally posted by kostoslav
64 client dont work with x-fire

WoW had 40-50.000 h on average before any xfire bugs.

 

GW2 has 70-90.000 h

 

so your argument is misleading.

 

Take another look at the topic's title. The topic is about WoW's drop on August 25th and he provides the reason. The other arguments used are (mostly) misleading because WoW's 64bit client not working with XFire is clearly the largest contributor to the drop.

  hpy7871

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9/08/12 11:42:13 AM#89
I think the biggest problem with xfire numbers iis alot of. People dont use it in my guild wich is small only about 125 people none of us uze xfire
  Sukiyaki

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9/11/12 5:01:09 PM#90

Zorndorf back then (2006-2008) ( the rabid WoW fanboi who probably started the whole aggressive "xfire"-faux-math trashing on mmorpg.com, other WoW fanbois keept  immitating over the years on top of him):

- "Be thankful there ARE tools like Xfire [...]"

- "So you have here all examples which show just how accurate number of players are demonstrated by Xfire."

- " [...] and show that the number on Xfire are rather very accurate to view player numbers"

 

Then suddenly:

 

 

Zorndorf now (last weeks)

"I just wanted to show that Xfire is not representative for PC game play at all."

"xfire attracts a very jumpy and hardcore player base, not representative for the PC market."

"Xfire is not a representative sample"

 

 

This **** is comedy gold ....

  FrodoFragins

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9/11/12 5:40:53 PM#91
Originally posted by Azrile

Xfire is not indicative of the average WOW player.  

That's as foundationless as claims making links between X-Fire numbers and the number of subscribers.

  FrodoFragins

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9/11/12 5:43:10 PM#92
Originally posted by mmojunkie5000
Originally posted by Azrile

And again,  I stand by my prediction that WOW will sell double in the first 24hrs (only in the west) that GW2 has sold up until that point.

WOW has already doubled since this thread started.  GW2 just does not have legs.   It is free, so the kids without credit cards can play it like runescape.

since arenanet halted digital sales of GW2 it won't be a fair comparison.

WoW has 3-4 mil subs in the west and GW2 sold 1 mil pre purchase boxes.

this was 2 days before launch.

I bet once they open sales again, your prediction will look really foolish.

 

GW1 already sold almost 7 mil...

and about the kiddie stuff... wonder what some elite raiders from WoW did when they got into GW2?

a) use exploits to get gold

b) powerleveled to max level like idiots without realizing level means shit in GW2

 

the community on my server in GW2 is 1000% more helpful, friendly and grown like on any of the 2 WoW servers I used to play.

it's not even close by any means.

Arenanet simply bans assholes since they don't need their subs. Blizz keeps them around to "enrich" the community

Why do you care if GW2 sells more copies than MoP?  I prefer GW2 but I expect MoP to sell at least a million more copies. 

  Shadoed

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9/12/12 2:07:37 AM#93
Originally posted by mmojunkie5000
 

you were making sweeping and laughable assumptions that are disproven not by xfire, but real released, official, hard, not to argue with NUMBERS:

gw2 NOW has had 400.000 concurrent users before the game even was accessible to preorders let alone retail.

WoW had 800k at its best days with massive cata hype behind it, millions buying the expansion and returning to the game

so, no. WoW's concurretn user numbers at this moment dwarves every other MMO, but not guild wars 2. and that's not just xfire talking

Hmmm, lets examine that for a second. GW2 had at a single point in time, during it's launch stage when the hype and ferver was at it's highest 400,000 concurrent users on their servers, what has the daily highest concurrent users been since that figure was released? 

You say that in it's best day WoW had 800k concurrent users on it's servers at one point, but what has the highest concurrent user figure been since then?

If you can accurately answer both of those questions and the figures come out as you say then we can say for certain that GW2 is dwarfing WoW in concurrent users, can you do that?

As for X-fire, there is still a slight anomoly that every GW2 fan has failed to accept on this thread and others like it and that is that the X-fire client has not worked properly with WoW since the patch day so even if anyone did take those figures seriously, how can you throw around figures based on one of the games not even having it's hours read in a majority of cases?

GW2 saw a fall off of nearly 25% in playing hours towards the end of last week, does that mean that it is failing already, well of course it doesn't, it just means that people are getting into their normal playing pattern after the rush of launch play. Does a reduction of WoW subs mean that the amount of concurrent users has dropped by the same amount, maybe or maybe not, it depends on which players have dropped their subs as the casuals like myself will always play the same amount of time mainly in the evenings after work and at weekends so even if the subs dropped down to just under 1mill it is still possible to hit that concurrent number depending on the play times of those players (unlikely, but possible)

Threads like this one always end up being fanboy vs fanboy and never end well as they always just end up throwing random internet look up figures at each other without actually knowing the figures for sure and at the end of the day what does it matter? If you like WoW, play wow and if you don't, go and enjoy the game you do like and let the developers/publishers worry about the figures.

It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.

  Azrile

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9/12/12 1:59:34 PM#94

Where did that 800k concurrent WOW players come from?  I am not saying it is not true, but I have never seen Blizzard release a number like that.   Not to be skeptical, but that seems very low considering they have been selling 3-4M boxes on the first day of the expansion.  I would think about 8-16 hours after the launch of an expansion, there would be closer to 2M people playing. I mean what is the point of going out and buying a game and then not playing it.

Would like to see a link to that 800k number pls.

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  Greyhooff

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9/12/12 2:04:47 PM#95

Guild Wars 2 is already a huge game, and literally -everyone- is playing it.

It is not surprising WoW is in free fall.

WoW is old news, and panda expansion for kids won't revive it.

GW2 is just an amazing game, and the best MMO out there by far. It kicks WoW's ass in every way.

  SnarlingWolf

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9/12/12 2:05:06 PM#96
Originally posted by kostoslav
64 client dont work with x-fire

 Since I don't play WoW I can't answer this myself so I'm curious. People know you can go into Xfire and change what executable it is looking at for a game right? Have people done this, restarted Xfire, and it still isn't recognizing it? Because I think you can literally use any executable, even one this isn't WoW in any shape or form, and as long as the one it is looking at it running then it says you are playing the game.

 

It sounds like it is just that Xfire isn't looking at the 64 bit exe by default and people might just have to redirect Xfire to the correct client.

  SnarlingWolf

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9/12/12 2:07:06 PM#97
Originally posted by Greyhooff

Guild Wars 2 is already a huge game, and literally -everyone- is playing it.

It is not surprising WoW is in free fall.

WoW is old news, and panda expansion for kids won't revive it.

GW2 is just an amazing game, and the best MMO out there by far. It kicks WoW's ass in every way.

 I'm too lazy to look at you post history to see if this is a real post or not so I thought I'd just ask directly. The "literally" followed by "everyone" makes me believe that it is a joking post since that literally isn't true. But with the internet it is hard to tell so I figured I'd ask.

For the record I don't care which game actually does better or has better Xfire numbers at all.

  Nikkita

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9/12/12 2:08:55 PM#98
Originally posted by Sukiyaki

This **** is comedy gold ....

I don't know what are your issues with WOW because you are a little over the top in hate for the game but if after 8 years WOW started to decline it is not something to feel great about. It is an old game now. The age is its worst enemy.

People say crazy stuff all the time and Xfire is mostly a tool used in forum PVP which changes sides on basis of what game you hate or like.


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  Phry

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9/12/12 2:10:08 PM#99
Originally posted by SnarlingWolf
Originally posted by Greyhooff

Guild Wars 2 is already a huge game, and literally -everyone- is playing it.

It is not surprising WoW is in free fall.

WoW is old news, and panda expansion for kids won't revive it.

GW2 is just an amazing game, and the best MMO out there by far. It kicks WoW's ass in every way.

 I'm too lazy to look at you post history to see if this is a real post or not so I thought I'd just ask directly. The "literally" followed by "everyone" makes me believe that it is a joking post since that literally isn't true. But with the internet it is hard to tell so I figured I'd ask.

For the record I don't care which game actually does better or has better Xfire numbers at all.

if you go by Xfire figures then you have to wonder where these players went to.. because GW2 has also seen a 30 percent fall off since its peak.. which if you treat xfire as being valid.. means that a third of gw2 players just dumped the game..

but only if you think xfire figures are in any way valid...  can't have it both ways after all

  korent1991

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9/12/12 2:10:44 PM#100
Originally posted by MrNo
Originally posted by mmojunkie5000
Originally posted by MrNo
Originally posted by mmojunkie5000

Hey cool I can make a fake chart also and post on this thread but I have pride man.

 

that's from xfire http://www.xfire.com/genre/mmo/massively_multiplayer_online/ this chart. just use the link... wow... some fanbois really are paranoid.. as if I would invest the time to fake a chart... lol

Like i said I can fake a chart also so can the people at Xfire. If you choose to put down WoW pls dont do it on this forum it is called trolling.

hahahahaha... that's really a desperate reach... :D haha, pathetic.

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