Originally posted by Bad.dog

Originally posted by Calerxes

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by Calerxes

You sure you are not trying to convince yourself this as to make that nagging feeling its all going to be over very soon bearable? Your points seem to be get out of jail excuses for when you stop playing.

Or he may just enjoy the game for years to come... the difference of opinions and tastes is something I would expect a so called "spotlight poster" to understand... but I lost that illusion long ago.

What will your out of jail card when GW2 bearks sales records before the end of the year? Oh yes, I already know it: "it's F2P, there's no sub, so you can't count!".

 

If it breaks sales records I will comeback and make a heartfelt apology to all who post on this site that I was wrong, but we have to establish what sales records it needs to break first. But when it doesn't break sales records, I shall expect the same from all you "fans" of the game to do likewise. Lets see who will be correct and I very confident I'll win but then you'll probably be championing the next "saviour"

Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm pretty darn sure nobody cares if you come back or not ....for a hater of a game you sure seem to spend lots of time telling folks your opinion on matters .I tend to wonder why folks like yourself let the negative control so much ,if you don't like something move on why mire yourself in what you don't like ? Since GW2 isn't your bread and butter why not move on to the game you like ...take a breath of fresh air and try a positive outlook

Never start a reply with an internet meme  the reason I post in threads like this is that they are basically pointing at others who may not like a game as being inferior, if you like a game please talk about it not make threads that have little to do with the game and more to do with pointing the finger at everyone who may find fault in the game and this is what this thread is. 

The Korrigan started a thread about favorite cities I'm not in there condeming anything or threads about classes, combat, WvWvW, sPvP, the non-trinity, races, roleplay etc.. I'm reading them and gathering information to make a informed decision on whether to buy the game or not. Critique should be welcomed not waved off as hating, critique improves things, critique highlights things, critique cuts through rhetoric and bullshit, critique makes better games.

Originally posted by kaiser3282

Just ignore Calerxes. He's one of the standard trolls posting in just about any thread where anyone says anything about liking GW2 trying to convince them that they dont actually like it, its all an illusion, and they cant actually think for themselves.... so better to let him think for you. Nobody has a valid opinion but Calerxes. If you feel differently, he will try to convince that you dont, and that you actually do agree with him.

That seems to be a disease common to most if not all "spotlight posters" to be honest ;-)

Originally posted by bubaluba
O yes one point from you is good--It is casual, nothing more and nothing less. Somwhere in league of  bazuka online

It's casual, in a very good way.

And I love your post in the wow forums regarding the poll about buying m.o.p:

"Lol you have 30% of gw2 deffenders. Yes we did and yes we will buy every single wow expansion forever and yes my realm is full of players and yes i wait only few sec for any bg.  Why you have 37% gw2 fANS ON THIS VOTE? I give you the answer-- because they do not enjoy anymore in their game, and you have less wow fans because they play wow.Simple as that-You can't compare cheap f2p game with Blizzard giant, with king of fantasy theme park mmo's. And yes gw2 is simple theme park mmo without any inspiration. There is no lore like in world of warcraft and there will never be. Give a sub to gw2 and you will stay on 50k subscribers. Even if millions of players play this game ANet will earn 5% of Blizzard income because they do not spend money on this game. You can do what ever you want but name of the game is important., you can't have a champion with name like guild wars-you must have word warcraft in your beloved game. And MOP is awesome it is like any expansion from wow--unreal, awesome, amazing."

and they say gw2 fans are "fanboys".

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

...to be casual.

... accept a game as it is.

... enjoy the small things again.

...play to have fun again.

Good for you sir!

I try to approach every MMO with those four furndamentals in mind.  Makes each MMO experience much more rewarding in the end.  Difference for me is light and day, I find.  Whereas others were not able to find enjoyment (or limited) with other games released this year, I found each and every one a lot of fun.

If you take that "rush to end-game" mentality away, you'll find that there's a lot more to these games than people see.

Kudos.

Edit: Now that you are able to experience this, try to go back to other games with this mindset.  You might find those other games have a lot more to offer than you originally thought!

Originally posted by Purutzil

You mention combat being exciting, yet I feel extremely gimped. No its not cause I'm bad, but because the controls in the game are not very smooth. To me combat should be skill based, not because of how it controls but because what you do to play it. I wish they had either a simple targetting system or an aiming system (aim prefered) not the mess of what seems like a mix between them two and leaves me feeling so disoriented in trying to hit something and my character does anything but hit them.

You must be doing something wrong since I find my self hitting everything always just the way I want to unless they are dodging.

Only explanations I come up with quickly is that you are out of range or facing the wrong way since you can use abilities in this game even if you are in a position to not hit anything.

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Anyway OP, I mostly agree with you. Just logged off from playing for four hours straight which is something I haven't done in a game in a long while. I've played MMO's going back to EQ, and I do feel that  - for me at least - Arena has gotten something very right. I admit i'm very much the sort of gamer who likes to do whatever may come. I'm not a structured efficient player, not in a hurry, not overly concerned about doing things in the optimal order.  I like to just get online and look around, explore a bit. Do some pvp, do some wvw, craft a bit, hang out and chat to people on Mumble., etc and GW2 seems to cater very well to that style of gamer. I'm sure it's not for everyone, but for those it is for, it's great. 

And for me the combat is just right, much more enjoyable than WoW combat ever was. I'm looking forward to making some alts soon and seeing some of the other storylines and starting areas. I can see a lot of depth in the PvP combat, especially in teams, which is no surprise considering GW shone in that arena. 

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Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

And do you know why?

 

Because i have learned to be casual.

Because i havve learned to accept a game as it is.

Because i have learned to enjoy the small things again.

Because i have learned to play to have fun again.

 

 

Because this game is actually different then all the other games released in the last 10 years.

Because Combat is so engaging with an incredible amount of depth.

Because my friends are enjoying the game too

Because i am immersed and enthralled by a beautifull world every time i log in.

 

 

I could give many more technical reasons, but they have all been explained till death.  Point is this is not a power gamers game, and not an achievers game and it might actually never become one of those. This game is for the majorrity of gamers, the casuals, people that take time to appreciate things and enjoy content. 

 

I am an ESKA.....

L O L !

Originally posted by coretex666

Congratz.

I am still waiting for a game that will provide me with better experience than Warcraft.

Although people aren't willing to admit it, you are probably right. There's a reason it's been the #1 MMO for all this time. It is/was fun.

Originally posted by Psychow

Originally posted by coretex666

Congratz.

I am still waiting for a game that will provide me with better experience than Warcraft.

 

Although people aren't willing to admit it, you are probably right. There's a reason it's been the #1 MMO for all this time. It is/was fun.

 

 

I love the downscaling because it keeps the world alive even moreso than other mmo's where once you out level an area it becomes a dull grey (mob) place that seems dead.  Gw2 keeps the world relevant incl scaling up the loot drops. 

to be honest this is the best themepark ever built in my opinion. I liked eq, wow, lotro and especially daoc, but i think this one has them all beat. I may be a little biased as i have never liked progression raiding.

-combat actually has depth if you care to look for it.

-dungeons are actually challenging.

-equipment is about strategy not about getting the best set. You need to decide what you want because there is no best setup.

-the world is fatastic and nothing else comes close to it.

-it has details everywhere.

-i love the events. Ive soloed some events and zerged them as well. loads of fun.

if i was to complain it would be that you cant raise the camera vertically and it doesnt have any sandbox elements...yet..

all this for 60 bucks..ive paid 60 bucks for a bucket of chicken.....its an amazing deal.

Originally posted by rungard

to be honest this is the best themepark ever built in my opinion. I liked eq, wow, lotro and especially daoc, but i think this one has them all beat. I may be a little biased as i have never liked progression raiding.

-combat actually has depth if you care to look for it.

-dungeons are actually challenging.

-equipment is about strategy not about getting the best set. You need to decide what you want because there is no best setup.

-the world is fatastic and nothing else comes close to it.

-it has details everywhere.

-i love the events. Ive soloed some events and zerged them as well. loads of fun.

 

if i was to complain it would be that you cant raise the camera vertically and it doesnt have any sandbox elements...yet..

all this for 60 bucks..ive paid 60 bucks for a bucket of chicken.....its an amazing deal.

Agreed! (and damn I really hope that was an entire fried Golden Moa and not just one chicken :O)

Originally posted by rungard

if i was to complain it would be that you cant raise the camera vertically and it doesnt have any sandbox elements...yet..

Yeah, so far I think that's the most legitimate complaint, most of the other complaints I've seen are due to personal preference, but that camera is just downright unfair in tight spaces.

Originally posted by Nikkita

Originally posted by Psychow

Originally posted by coretex666

Congratz.

I am still waiting for a game that will provide me with better experience than Warcraft.

 

Although people aren't willing to admit it, you are probably right. There's a reason it's been the #1 MMO for all this time. It is/was fun.

 

 

 

Fun is such a subjective thing but i agree that WOW is number one for a reason. Only a good game can stay on top for 8 years in a row.

I never could get into WoW.  Tried it in 04 and ran screaming after a month.  Played EQ2 for 5 years in a hardcore raid guild.  Loved eq way more than I could ever get into wow.  The super low quality graphics in wow actually gave me headaches.

Watched many wow raids and eq2 raids were comparable or more sophisticated (hard to beat) on average.

Nw that I have more responsibilities i have less time for a hardcore raid gear grind - enter gw2 :)

Originally posted by Psychow

Originally posted by coretex666

Congratz.

I am still waiting for a game that will provide me with better experience than Warcraft.

 

Although people aren't willing to admit it, you are probably right. There's a reason it's been the #1 MMO for all this time. It is/was fun.

 

 

I agree with both. Bought GW2 mostly because my guildies wanted me to play the game, played some betas got hyped because the game seemed really good (too bad i didn't do too much PvE), when game went live played for one week got bored as hell and got myself thinking... "who am i kidding? this game is no WoW".

Oh well, a new lesson learned. After that i re-subbed WoW after like one year and a half without playing and im having a blast again... it's OLD, it's TRADICIONAL, but it's FUN!

Like it or not, WoW is still the most polished MMO outhere and the one that offers more content. Either people like blizzard or not, they are one of the few companies outhere that know how to make addictive games, games above average.

Another thing that turned me off in GW2 was arenanet, i dislike the way they handle things.

To all of you who love GW2, i wish you have a great ride, the game is just not for me! And hopefuly a few months from now you're still playing the game with the same joy you are today.