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  Demogorgon

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8/11/12 1:54:17 PM#61
Originally posted by alexanys1982
Originally posted by Demogorgon

The game wouldn't sell much even if it was on Pc.

100k... maybe 150k Maximum.

Want to know why? Simple! Most people aren't interested in EVE at all.

The game has around 175k - 200k real player, not accounts, and not all of them want to play an FPS game.

You can't play multiple accounts in an FPS game.

Voilà... fail game is fail.

 

even if it didnt sell well on the pc, at least it has a home with more powerful hardware available and wont die as soon as ps4 comes out, how are all those late night ps2 parties going latley?

Ummm, I think you missed the point... I'm saying that whatever platform the game comes out on, it wont sell much due to the IP and player base being abysmal.

  thekid1

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8/11/12 2:09:26 PM#62
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by thekid1

- I think the particular kind of people who play Eve are not likely to have a PS3.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/DUST514_Survey

Almost 50% of Eve players own a PS3??

I'm sorry but I don't believe those numbers.

  UNH0LYEV1L

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8/11/12 3:20:08 PM#63

Well I was so pumped for this game, got into the Beta b/c I'm an EvE subscriber and I have to say this game has some serious problems.  Making it on the PS3 just severely limited the graphics.  In fact I would go so far as to say as its ugly as hell.    Additionally (in my opinion) using a controler to control a FPS is just not as intuitive as a mouse and keyboard.  Worst yet is there is pay 2 win...you can gain "boosters" (atleast right now) to increase gain from matches. WTF so yea people w/ big pockets are going to get into the best stuff faster.

My biggest gripe though is that the game is like Battlefield on crack.  As an infantry (using your gun) you are absolutely worhtless compared to the vechicles.  People in tanks and stuff are just racking up 80+ kills w/ 0-2 deaths.  If your not in a vechicle you will get insta-killed.  Anti vechicle weapons do exist but they seem to do complete shit damage to the vehicles.

Also the game is so severely limited right now because it is in BETA and there are a ton of "coming soon" features but there is no visible tie in to the game EVE yet.  In fact there is a warzone selection screen akin to old Socom/Counter Strike/GW2 match or server selection.

EDIT: HOLY CRAP So i just watched the video linked (took me a while to find it) and yea a lot of the gripes are spot on and what I thought as well.


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  Humphrie

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8/14/12 12:41:40 PM#64

This game has been such a huge monetary drain on CCP. I wonder if, when it innevitably flops, it will drag World of Darkness down with it. Part of me thinks that would be a tragedy. On the other hand, another part of me thinks it would be good, given that CCP can't seem to figure out how to program combat outside spaceships worth a damn.

 

In a larger sense, though, I want it to flop so developers will end this cross-platform nonsense once and for all. The simple fact of the matter is that, not only are consoles far too transitive and temporary to build something linked to an MMORPG on (IE, I can't afford to buy a new console every 5 years to keep up), they're becoming passe in general. I wouldn't be surprised if the next two decades sees consoles become extinct entirely. PCs can be upgraded, used for other things, and don't cost all that much more than these systems when they launch. When I have kids, I'm not even going to buy them an X-Box or whatever, because it's a huge goddamned waste of money.

  TruthXHurts

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8/14/12 12:45:50 PM#65
Did anyone stop to think that maybe they put it on the PS3 because they didn't wnat to pull players off of the actual game on PC? Now you space commanders get your army of screaming cannon fodder 14 yr olds, and the contempt you hold in your hearts for console games will make it that much easier to order orbital strikes on your own mercenaries to insure the victory.

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  Teala

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8/14/12 12:53:04 PM#66
When Dust 514 flops, maybe then CCP will put WIS and actual avatar game play into EVE.   Then again, if Dust 514 does flop, CCP maybe paying off a 20 million loan for he next few years and EVE will be on life support and see very little growth.  

  Weretigar

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8/14/12 1:02:53 PM#67
Originally posted by alexanys1982
They chose what they think is the larger $crowd (consoles) but I still dont get it....the ps3 has 1.5, maybe 2 years of life left at MOST before the ps4 comes out....

Don't necro treads from over a month ago to troll and cry about ps3 release.

  Malcanis

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8/17/12 6:58:11 AM#68
Originally posted by Teala
When Dust 514 flops, maybe then CCP will put WIS and actual avatar game play into EVE.   Then again, if Dust 514 does flop, CCP maybe paying off a 20 million loan for he next few years and EVE will be on life support and see very little growth.  

 

If Dust flops then it will prove that people aren't interested in avatar based play in the EVE universe. Therefore CCP will cancel Incarna entirely!

 

Say, this "make shit up and apply moon-logic to it" game is fun. Your move - and hurry up because I want to play again!

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  hfztt

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8/20/12 7:48:13 AM#69
Originally posted by Demogorgon

Ummm, I think you missed the point... I'm saying that whatever platform the game comes out on, it wont sell much due to the IP and player base being abysmal.

Lucky its f2p and dont have to sell then...

I am fairly sure that a more or less perpeptual precense on the front page of the PS3 shop, which it has already had for half a year, will do a lot to push it to players who just want to try out free stuff.

  BrokenSpoon

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8/20/12 7:55:45 AM#70

2 hours of game play and don't think I could play it again.. Currently Eve looks fantastic but I thought Dust 514 looked terrible in comparison.. But stuck on a  6 year old console using a Unreal Engine 3 and not 4, it won't be all that cracking!!!

The only up side to Dust is you will be able to connect a keyboard/mouse.. and if thats the case why not release on PC.. *sigh*

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  Yalexy

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8/20/12 8:22:23 AM#71


Originally posted by BrokenSpoon
2 hours of game play and don't think I could play it again.. Currently Eve looks fantastic but I thought Dust 514 looked terrible in comparison.. But stuck on a  6 year old console using a Unreal Engine 3 and not 4, it won't be all that cracking!!!

The only up side to Dust is you will be able to connect a keyboard/mouse.. and if thats the case why not release on PC.. *sigh*


The reason why they don't release on PC is that consoles are a closed ecosystem less prone to cheating. And if you cheat and get caught, your hardware-ID get's banned and you can buy a new console, if you want to continue playing.
The unified hardware also levels the playingfield.

And a PS3 is a real bargain. A HTPC including BluRay-player for $200 isn't too bad.

  Dalmont

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8/20/12 8:22:58 AM#72
Originally posted by Z3R01

 

That's right CCP!!! Way to go!

Lets make a FPS and develop it for the PS3.

Lets completely ignore the fact that Eve players are on PC

Lets ignore all the suggestion posts of Eve evolving into Ground based Fps/Vehicle combat over planetary control.

Last I checked the 300-400k accounts that give CCP money are all on PC, The people that buy the books, the mechandise and goto your stupid fanfest are all on PC.

This game even if it was mediocre would have sold like hotcakes ON PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I dont know who makes the decisions over there at CCP but not delivering this game to their PC customer base is pure stupidity!!!!!!!!!!

 

./rant over

Got to love people that haven't read or understood the reasons behind the console launch. No intellegence to see here, move on.

  Dalmont

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8/20/12 8:26:12 AM#73
Originally posted by RavingRabbid

The issue that I have with this game is that the skills in Dust train in real time. From what a friend of mine told me whether it was accurate or not will take total of 7 years to train. PS3 games dont have longevity like many pc games do. How many ppl are gonna play this game for more than 2 months let alone up to 7 years. Lets just hope it has CODMW long term play. I just dont see it.

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Same argument as with EVE, you can be a competitor in whatever you specialise very quickly, in EVE less than a month you are useful in PVP if thats what you want to do, in mining, in scanning, in industry etc.

 

They are trying to make a fps that isn't 30 seconds of play until the next game that is exactly the same comes along but with a black ops/special forces/deep strike title afterwards

  Minsc

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8/22/12 4:03:58 AM#74
Originally posted by alexanys1982
They chose what they think is the larger $crowd (consoles) but I still dont get it....the ps3 has 1.5, maybe 2 years of life left at MOST before the ps4 comes out....

Well that's good because it's a psn game not a ps3 game. They can just port it to the ps4 when it comes out and up the graphics accordingly.

  Gravarg

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9/07/12 11:36:33 AM#75
Played it for 3 hours, and I can't take it anymore.  Controls are sluggish, Graphics are horrible, everything's gray...And combat is the worst.  Every game comes down to who has the better stuff...literally.  I started late, so I was behind the curve.  My first game I went 0-12 lol.  In an EXTREMELY similar game (bf3) I go 30-0 all the time with my sniper... The battlefields are too small, and when you get someone on the opposing team with a massive tank...it takes over 8 shots from the starter heavy trooper to kill it...you only get 6 shots before you have to find ammo...I can't think of one thing done right.
  Minsc

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9/07/12 2:45:14 PM#76
they have these people called teammates. I hear things go better if you work with them.
  spankybus

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9/07/12 4:58:09 PM#77
Originally posted by Minsc
they have these people called teammates. I hear things go better if you work with them.

Pfft! I am a one-man wrecking crew and a complete baddass in my own right!! 

 

The ONLY reason I play MMOs and is so that other people can bear witness to my greatness!! I don't actually want to play with multiple players in multiplayer games!!

 

/sarcasm off

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  Trionicus

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9/07/12 5:08:00 PM#78
Originally posted by Z3R01

 

That's right CCP!!! Way to go!

Lets make a FPS and develop it for the PS3.

Lets completely ignore the fact that Eve players are on PC

Lets ignore all the suggestion posts of Eve evolving into Ground based Fps/Vehicle combat over planetary control.

Last I checked the 300-400k accounts that give CCP money are all on PC, The people that buy the books, the mechandise and goto your stupid fanfest are all on PC.

This game even if it was mediocre would have sold like hotcakes ON PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I dont know who makes the decisions over there at CCP but not delivering this game to their PC customer base is pure stupidity!!!!!!!!!!

 

./rant over

Probably 18039% accurate but i'll accept that this may only be 100% accurate.

Didn't they even delay or bounce WoD for this game?

Doesn't matter anyway. I'm sure that EVE fans will go buy the PS3 just to play this game.. ... .... ...or not

  micona

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9/07/12 5:10:33 PM#79
Originally posted by Z3R01

 

That's right CCP!!! Way to go!

Lets make a FPS and develop it for the PS3.

Lets completely ignore the fact that Eve players are on PC

Lets ignore all the suggestion posts of Eve evolving into Ground based Fps/Vehicle combat over planetary control.

Last I checked the 300-400k accounts that give CCP money are all on PC, The people that buy the books, the mechandise and goto your stupid fanfest are all on PC.

This game even if it was mediocre would have sold like hotcakes ON PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I dont know who makes the decisions over there at CCP but not delivering this game to their PC customer base is pure stupidity!!!!!!!!!!

 

./rant over

   I cant agree more what were they thinking of course money talks how much did sony pay for this exclusif .

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  Drevar

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10/23/12 10:59:56 PM#80
I find it really odd that a PC game company would go exclusively PS3 when Sony itself is releasing Planetside 2 on PC.  Stupd business decision is stupid.

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