1.Underwater combat

2.The fact that it colors your gear automatically when doing sPvP- What is the point of aquiring better looking gear if its gonna be red or blue anyway.PvP only folk can't take any advantages of the colouring system.

3.The fact that you can't make use of your pve stuff in pvp- in guild wars 1 you were able to go into pvp with your pve gear unless you created a PvP only character.

4.sPvP maps are way too small

Originally posted by Zadawn

1.Underwater combat

2.The fact that it colors your gear automatically when doing sPvP- What is the point of aquiring better looking gear if its gonna be red or blue anyway.PvP only folk can't take any advantages of the colouring system.

3.The fact that you can't make use of your pve stuff in pvp- in guild wars 1 you were able to go into pvp with your pve gear unless you created a PvP only character.

4.sPvP maps are way too small

 

1) I actually enjoy underwater combat more in this game than any other I've played, but that's a total "personal preference" thing so it's hard to debate.

2) I understand why the color effects are so strong - they want sPvP to become an eSport and want spectators (which is in the works) to be able to easily identify who is on which team. Having said that I agree I want my custom color schemes to be at least a little prominent.

3) This one actually makes no sense. You know there are Vendors in the Mists which give you the ability to equip your character with "Max Stat" Gear configured just how you want it to be with Runes and such? And then sPvP "progression" is based on unlocking Cosmetics. To keep everything balanced they pretty much had to set it up this way.

4) I'm hoping for more variety over time especially since they said they are working on a Guild vs Guild mode. The map size feels about right to me for allowing teams to respond quickly and spectators to follow matches without people scattered over vast distances, but I can see where a more spread out map would also offer a noticeably different experience.

EDIT: If I were you I'd also edit the title to mention it is about sPvP and to not be so emotionally charged if you want a real discussion

Best in game water fighting ever. I tried it in SWToR and broke my face! Even in WoW which has pretty decent movement, I felt like my depth perception was off a bit, and when I would backup It moved me up and back very slowly. 

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Originally posted by Amjoco
Best in game water fighting ever. I tried it in SWToR and broke my face! Even in WoW which has pretty decent movement, I felt like my depth perception was off a bit, and when I would backup It moved me up and back very slowly. 

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SW:TOR didn't have room for underwater fighting or swimming because there are no bodies of water more than waist-deep in the whole universe.

Everyone knows this.

Originally posted by Fozzik

SW:TOR didn't have room for underwater fighting or swimming because there are no bodies of water more than waist-deep in the whole universe.

Everyone knows this.

Pretty sure that was his point /wink

Originally posted by Stx11

Originally posted by Zadawn

1.Underwater combat

2.The fact that it colors your gear automatically when doing sPvP- What is the point of aquiring better looking gear if its gonna be red or blue anyway.PvP only folk can't take any advantages of the colouring system.

3.The fact that you can't make use of your pve stuff in pvp- in guild wars 1 you were able to go into pvp with your pve gear unless you created a PvP only character.

4.sPvP maps are way too small

 

 

2) I understand why the color effects are so strong - they want sPvP to become an eSport and want spectators (which is in the works) to be able to easily identify who is on which team. Having said that I agree I want my custom color schemes to be at least a little prominent.

 

4) I'm hoping for more variety over time especially since they said they are working on a Guild vs Guild mode. The map size feels about right to me for allowing teams to respond quickly and spectators to follow matches without people scattered over vast distances, but I can see where a more spread out map would also offer a noticeably different experience.

So i bought a TV show not a game i take it?

I can dig all you said op but not liking the underwater? Crazy!!!! lol ;)

I had a friend over who doesn't play mmo's, a straight cod head and he was super impressed by the way I jumped into the underwater world and started swimming around fighting off creatures. 

Dont like underwater combat because I dont like the choice of underwater weapons.

Also, 90% of Elite skills are blocked from being used underwater. Guardians have 1 underwater Elite and its their worst one. Whoo.

Originally posted by Zadawn

1.Underwater combat

2.The fact that it colors your gear automatically when doing sPvP- What is the point of aquiring better looking gear if its gonna be red or blue anyway.PvP only folk can't take any advantages of the colouring system.

3.The fact that you can't make use of your pve stuff in pvp- in guild wars 1 you were able to go into pvp with your pve gear unless you created a PvP only character.

4.sPvP maps are way too small

 

underwater combat is the most fun ive had in a while. it adds a z-axis, making it kinda like aerial combat. it's amazing. perfectly executed.

spvp is spvp. not sure what else ud want from it. 

u can use your pve stuff in pvp, it's called WvW. look it up. 

Originally posted by Zadawn

2) I understand why the color effects are so strong - they want sPvP to become an eSport and want spectators (which is in the works) to be able to easily identify who is on which team. Having said that I agree I want my custom color schemes to be at least a little prominent.

 

4) I'm hoping for more variety over time especially since they said they are working on a Guild vs Guild mode. The map size feels about right to me for allowing teams to respond quickly and spectators to follow matches without people scattered over vast distances, but I can see where a more spread out map would also offer a noticeably different experience.

So i bought a TV show not a game i take it?

sPvP in this game is heavily based on Team Fortress 2.

• Rotating maps
• Hot Join
• Auto-Team-Balancing
• Strong Team Identifiers

Whether or not you like that choice is personal preference. But they haven't been shy about sPvP features or their goals for it.

Originally posted by Xiaoki

Dont like underwater combat because I dont like the choice of underwater weapons.

Also, 90% of Elite skills are blocked from being used underwater. Guardians have 1 underwater Elite and its their worst one. Whoo.

renewed focus is my favourite guard elite. im specced into virtues. it's amazing. 

Originally posted by Zadawn

1.Underwater combat

2.The fact that it colors your gear automatically when doing sPvP- What is the point of aquiring better looking gear if its gonna be red or blue anyway.PvP only folk can't take any advantages of the colouring system.

3.The fact that you can't make use of your pve stuff in pvp- in guild wars 1 you were able to go into pvp with your pve gear unless you created a PvP only character.

4.sPvP maps are way too small

 

 1. Have to agree. I find I don't care for the underwater portion. It just feels tremendously tedious compared to ground combat and not as fluid gameplay wise. The whole float to the surface can remove downed state thing is pretty "wt lol" too.

2. Not really an issue to me but I can sympathize.

3. You can in WvW. Just not in SPvP which is how it should be. The whole point of those is to have everyone on equal footing so it boild down to player gameplay making a difference not their gear.

4. They seem fine to me for the amount of players in them.

Originally posted by Zadawn

1.Underwater combat

2.The fact that it colors your gear automatically when doing sPvP- What is the point of aquiring better looking gear if its gonna be red or blue anyway.PvP only folk can't take any advantages of the colouring system.

3.The fact that you can't make use of your pve stuff in pvp- in guild wars 1 you were able to go into pvp with your pve gear unless you created a PvP only character.

4.sPvP maps are way too small

 

1. I really liked underwater combat until I reached higher levels and it took a lot longer to kill mobs.

2. I have no interest in sPVP but I certainly understand that complaint.  It sounds completely unecessary to color your armor and to remove the one motivation of that type of PVP, which is cool looking gear.

3. PVP should not be gear based.  No issue for me

Originally posted by Foomerang

 

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Originally posted by Amjoco
Best in game water fighting ever. I tried it in SWToR and broke my face! Even in WoW which has pretty decent movement, I felt like my depth perception was off a bit, and when I would backup It moved me up and back very slowly. 

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Swtor doesnt have underwater combat. Maybe thats why your face broke

 

Haha brilliant! Amjoco is on every thread like clockwork always making sure to put out some excuses. Also the depth perception comment is bollocks, you get depth perception issues in GW2, its something inheritent of the fact that you lack immediate points of reference, its not like GW2 can fix your brain.

On topic, I actually enjoy the underwater combat, the fact that there is no breathing is quite good, in fact I hope they add more underwater stuff I feel while there is plenty its a bit neglected compare to land content, I just cant use my pet shark enough :)

I agree with the pvp colouring thing, but its not enough reason to quit for me.

As a matter of fact I dont like sPVP very much at all, the whole completely detached from everything else really annoys me a little bit, and I also agree the maps are quite small and cluttered with stuff.

Originally posted by Xiaoki

Dont like underwater combat because I dont like the choice of underwater weapons.

Also, 90% of Elite skills are blocked from being used underwater. Guardians have 1 underwater Elite and its their worst one. Whoo.

elementalists is a lot of fun underwater with use of all 4 elements but i can see where other classes would feel a bit restrictive

Originally posted by Amjoco

Best in game water fighting ever. I tried it in SWToR and broke my face! Even in WoW which has pretty decent movement, I felt like my depth perception was off a bit, and when I would backup It moved me up and back very slowly. 

What underwater combat in SWTOR? it was an un necssary compairon to begin with.

Originally posted by Nikkita

Originally posted by Amjoco

Best in game water fighting ever. I tried it in SWToR and broke my face! Even in WoW which has pretty decent movement, I felt like my depth perception was off a bit, and when I would backup It moved me up and back very slowly. 

What underwater combat in SWTOR? it was an un necssary compairon to begin with.

 Heheh I think he knows that and was saying it broke his face because the water was essentially a wall ;).  At least that's how I read it.