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  tiefighter25

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OP  9/06/12 2:39:10 AM#1

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/swtor-star-tour/

Not even going to say anything about it.

Enjoy.

  Weretigar

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If you watch a game, it’s fun. If you play it, it’s recreation. If you work at it, it’s FF-XIV.

9/06/12 3:32:16 AM#2

They plan on releasing one more warzone.

Illum is scrapped perminately. They have nothing in the works for World pvp, but there thinking about ways to do it. 

The next set will have a 20% increase? I didn't quite follow this. 

Every company lays people off 3+ times in the frist year.

They plan on one day introducing bounty hunting, on planets however current rules say anyone attacking a player 5 lvls lower then them can be banned for greifing. 

Some guy to the responses want him fired asap.

  Incomparable

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9/06/12 3:41:16 AM#3
Originally posted by Weretigar

They plan on releasing one more warzone.

Illum is scrapped perminately. They have nothing in the works for World pvp, but there thinking about ways to do it. 

The next set will have a 20% increase? I didn't quite follow this. 

Every company lays people off 3+ times in the frist year.

They plan on one day introducing bounty hunting, on planets however current rules say anyone attacking a player 5 lvls lower then them can be banned for greifing. 

Some guy to the responses want him fired asap.

 

On a positive note open world pvp has some planning. However, banning people for using mechanics in game makes little sense. Sounds like a god complex of the devs in creating a world for the players but then creating rules against the nature of the game as an excuse to ban or troll players. Why not just add a mechanis that restricts it? It would make their game worse by restricting it but it would be better than banning people for conjured up reasons. Or they can add a bolster system like 10-49 for open world across all contested maps.

“Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble”

  Weretigar

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9/06/12 3:45:08 AM#4
Originally posted by Incomparable
Originally posted by Weretigar

They plan on releasing one more warzone.

Illum is scrapped perminately. They have nothing in the works for World pvp, but there thinking about ways to do it. 

The next set will have a 20% increase? I didn't quite follow this. 

Every company lays people off 3+ times in the frist year.

They plan on one day introducing bounty hunting, on planets however current rules say anyone attacking a player 5 lvls lower then them can be banned for greifing. 

Some guy to the responses want him fired asap.

 

On a positive note open world pvp has some planning. However, banning people for using mechanics in game makes little sense. Sounds like a god complex of the devs in creating a world for the players but then creating rules against the nature of those rules as an excuse to ban or troll players. Why not just add a mechanis that restricts it? It would make their game worse by restricting it but it would be better than banning people for conjured up reasons. Or they can add a bolster system like 10-49 for open world across all contested maps.

It's because the way swtor lvl system is made somone 6 lvls under wouldn't have a fighting chance in killing them. It's like a lvl 30 toon on wow attacking a lvl 10. 

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh78Fge0OGY&lc=jzEjvYFDnambOOi2foqqTxIu5Yv7Sm-dKdRTHPXlgkg&feature=inbox

  Incomparable

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9/06/12 4:28:32 AM#5
So basically by design they don't want open world pvp currently.

Even in WoW can allow for people to do that, and it brings high lvled players to help. Or people can log in to their alts.

Swtor is really going against the grain with pvp in their game. They should have a FFA server then. One pvp server that restricts griefing, and a FFA pvp server that allows it. And maybe even make it like illum an give exp per kill or exp for sharing kills, or exp for attacking another player. Ofc, the assumption is to not allow exploits so maybe have actual objectives as well, and people will be more focused on having fun rather than spending it on exploits.

“Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble”

  DrunkWolf

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9/06/12 4:31:05 AM#6
me thinks they shut down the wrong star wars game.....
  thamighty213

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9/06/12 4:32:57 AM#7
Originally posted by DrunkWolf
me thinks they shut down the wrong star wars game.....

:)

  Ahnog

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9/06/12 4:56:47 AM#8

A very positive and upbeat interview.

 

I found the discussion of the future cost of wz under ftp interesting.

 

He spoke of the "revitilization of Illum" coming in January, and more rewards for pvp including gear upgrades. Very interesting.

Ahnog

Hokey religions are no replacement for a good blaster at your side.

  Kakkzooka

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9/06/12 6:09:23 AM#9
"January" eh? I'll be very surprised if EA allows the lid on the cash vacuum to stay open that long.

Re: SWTOR

"Remember, remember - Kakk says 'December.'"

  gervaise1

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9/06/12 8:16:15 AM#10

A summary of a discussion that Gabe had with a group of folks rather than an interview but: 

- targeting a January timeframe (but not set in concrete);

- got the impact of gear wrong, they were surprised that a fully geared character was so much more powerful than an ungeared one (lack of testing!);

- nothing set in concrete about F2P, nothing decided, don't know what to charge for , reaching out to fans - can't do dates;

- got Illium wrong, something planned to redo it (alien invasion) (they have been talking about redoing Illium for months though0;

- stats don't correspond with what people say they want - suggested they don't know what to do - have been looking at LoL.

 

What struck me was the lack of any overarching strategy, no clear idea of what to do - indeed everything seems to be short term. 

  noncley

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Joined: 1/16/12
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9/06/12 8:35:01 PM#11
Originally posted by Incomparable
Originally posted by Weretigar

They plan on releasing one more warzone.

Illum is scrapped perminately. They have nothing in the works for World pvp, but there thinking about ways to do it. 

The next set will have a 20% increase? I didn't quite follow this. 

Every company lays people off 3+ times in the frist year.

They plan on one day introducing bounty hunting, on planets however current rules say anyone attacking a player 5 lvls lower then them can be banned for greifing. 

Some guy to the responses want him fired asap.

 

On a positive note open world pvp has some planning. However, banning people for using mechanics in game makes little sense. Sounds like a god complex of the devs in creating a world for the players but then creating rules against the nature of the game as an excuse to ban or troll players. Why not just add a mechanis that restricts it? It would make their game worse by restricting it but it would be better than banning people for conjured up reasons. Or they can add a bolster system like 10-49 for open world across all contested maps.

Why on earth did Bioware/EA make Gabe Amatangello Lead PVP Designer? HE HAS NO PROGRAMMING EXPERIENCE OF ANY KIND. He's a fucking scriptwriter, for god's sake.

  noncley

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9/06/12 8:36:25 PM#12
Originally posted by Ahnog

A very positive and upbeat interview.

 

I found the discussion of the future cost of wz under ftp interesting.

 

He spoke of the "revitilization of Illum" coming in January, and more rewards for pvp including gear upgrades. Very interesting.

Seriously? How much are you getting?

  noncley

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9/06/12 8:36:59 PM#13
Originally posted by thamighty213
Originally posted by DrunkWolf
me thinks they shut down the wrong star wars game.....

:)

Bingo!

  starwarsnut

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9/07/12 3:09:33 AM#14

This guy is the jar jar binks of developers lol. Clueless with a big mouth.

 

pax 2011 gabe: were gonna have 100vs100 

gabe "you will be amazed by ilum"

This guy coudlnt make a pbj with a gun to his head yet according to james ohlen they have the best pvp team lolz

Gabe has a promising career sharpening pencils not much else.

  Ahnog

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Posts: 232

9/07/12 7:08:35 AM#15
Originally posted by gervaise1

A summary of a discussion that Gabe had with a group of folks rather than an interview but: 

- targeting a January timeframe (but not set in concrete);

- got the impact of gear wrong, they were surprised that a fully geared character was so much more powerful than an ungeared one (lack of testing!);

- nothing set in concrete about F2P, nothing decided, don't know what to charge for , reaching out to fans - can't do dates;

- got Illium wrong, something planned to redo it (alien invasion) (they have been talking about redoing Illium for months though0;

- stats don't correspond with what people say they want - suggested they don't know what to do - have been looking at LoL.

 

What struck me was the lack of any overarching strategy, no clear idea of what to do - indeed everything seems to be short term. 

 

Let  me help you out--ftp and updates every six weeks is the "overreaching strategy" atm.  They have a vision for the game based on their experience and fan feedback. The problem is they havn't really shared the vision yet.

Ahnog

Hokey religions are no replacement for a good blaster at your side.

  Nikkita

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9/07/12 7:13:41 AM#16
Originally posted by Kakkzooka
"January" eh? I'll be very surprised if EA allows the lid on the cash vacuum to stay open that long.

Yeah EA turned SWTOR into F2P just to shut it down 3 months later. Makes all the sense in the world.

*rolls eyes*


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  alaska88

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9/07/12 7:19:25 AM#17
Originally posted by Nikkita
Originally posted by Kakkzooka
"January" eh? I'll be very surprised if EA allows the lid on the cash vacuum to stay open that long.

Yeah EA turned SWTOR into F2P just to shut it down 3 months later. Makes all the sense in the world.

*rolls eyes*

Milk the cow before it dies! DO IT!

  Nikkita

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9/07/12 7:21:54 AM#18
Originally posted by alaska88
Originally posted by Nikkita
Originally posted by Kakkzooka
"January" eh? I'll be very surprised if EA allows the lid on the cash vacuum to stay open that long.

Yeah EA turned SWTOR into F2P just to shut it down 3 months later. Makes all the sense in the world.

*rolls eyes*

Milk the cow before it dies! DO IT!

I doubt 3 months is enough time to even milk anything with F2P conversion. That is why the post i quoted is absurd.


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  Tardcore

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9/07/12 7:26:59 AM#19
Originally posted by Nikkita
Originally posted by Kakkzooka
"January" eh? I'll be very surprised if EA allows the lid on the cash vacuum to stay open that long.

Yeah EA turned SWTOR into F2P just to shut it down 3 months later. Makes all the sense in the world.

*rolls eyes*

Well they turned to FTP out of desperation. If the change doesn't bear fruit its not impossible that EA could just can the game as they've already stated they've made their money and the game is no longer a priority.

*rolls nose*      . . . . ouch.

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  Nikkita

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9/07/12 7:31:17 AM#20
Originally posted by Tardcore
Originally posted by Nikkita
Originally posted by Kakkzooka
"January" eh? I'll be very surprised if EA allows the lid on the cash vacuum to stay open that long.

Yeah EA turned SWTOR into F2P just to shut it down 3 months later. Makes all the sense in the world.

*rolls eyes*

Well they turned to FTP out of desperation. If the change doesn't bear fruit its not impossible that EA could just can the game as they've already stated they've made their money and the game is no longer a priority.

*rolls nose*      . . . . ouch.

If they have already made their money and it is not their priority, still...you are telling me that SWTOR would  bring them even lesser profit than say games like WAR and Daoc? again i doubt that considering SWTOR has  a very healthy population compared to these old titles.

*shows tardcore how to roll a nose*


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