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  Aelious

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9/07/12 1:05:09 AM#21
Originally posted by Maxmmo
so after reading the OP i agree with him. GW2 is an ok game and i think if it was not free people would not be putting up with all the little bugs the hacking of accounts etc. i have never seen so many people get but hurt when people speak the truth about GW 2, its a joke its a hack job of an MMO. To me the genra of MMO  has gone to sh*t with games like this. the real problem is the people that want to play a MMO but do not want to put in the HOURS and we get crap like GW2. not saying that they should not make a well rounded game for all types but look what we have resorted to, no raids and  a lack of guild content. some people are overjoyed with no raid  content in GW2  well the DE just dont cut it for everyone /shrugs

 It's posts like this that get people all up in arms because it flames a game, of which forum you posted, in a general way without any reasoning.  Do you even have examples to put reason to these statements? Or you could at least give us an example of what you think is a great game (like the OP did with Rift).

  grimm6th

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9/07/12 1:07:04 AM#22
Originally posted by bexinh

Ok, so everyone seems to be afraid of criticize ...says Mr. I-have-only-two-posts... the "greatest game ever", Guild Wars'cuz its gonna upset all the fan boys and girls outthere. BUT admit it, GUILD WAR 2 is NOT really that great ...in your opinion!  The game doesn't rewrite MMO history like all the fan boys and girls have always said ...no we haven't.  It's not even better than RIFT ...in your opinion. GW2 has no raids... btw, if u call dynamic events raiding, that's because when the definition of RAID (redundant array of independent disks) came out you were just 3 years old...

*rant continues for a while*

...for you fan boys and girls to face the fact that its NOT the greatest game ever and its just another MMO better than some and worse than a few.

 

I made a few grammar and spelling corrections to help me read this post, and I inserted my commentary on specific things you said.

However, what i really wanted to address is the complete misunderstanding of reality you revealed in typing the part at the end...

How good a game is is subjective, and each person can have their own opinion.  Facts are objective, and are not subject to an individual's opinion.  YOU do not think that GW2 is the greatest game ever.  This does not make it a fact.

 

...Oh, and if you do not find my RAID vs. raid comment funny, I apologize.

I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.

  syntax.error

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9/07/12 1:23:04 AM#23

 

It's a pretty fun mmo to me for now, however  I don't see myself playing this for months on out since it's too simplistic for me.

It is very casual friendly for a certain playerbase and to me it has a nice feel to it when it comes to the games mechanics.

Despite the minor launch issues it had, I don't feel like I wasted $60 dollars. I can see myself hoping in and out of this game for years to come.

  vee41

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Joined: 4/25/08
Posts: 191

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9/07/12 1:32:30 AM#24
Originally posted by bexinh

Ok so, everyone seems to be afraid of criticize "the greatest game ever Guild war 2" cuz its gonna upset all the fan boys outthere. BUT admid it GUILD WAR 2 is NOT really that great! The game doesnt rewrite the MMO history like all the fan boys always said. IT's not even better than RIFT. GW2 has no raid .... btw if u call the dynamic events (or rift invasion) is raiding.... thats because when the definition of RAID came out u were just 3 years old. The class system is stupid. Every game allows u to perform different roles these days even WOW allows u to do so. Gameplay needless to say its nothing innovate about it.... tab ur target and smash the hot keys... TERA has better game play than this game at least its something different from what outthere. Imo the only good thing about this game is its free. I remember someone in this forum said if this game wasnt free then the rating wouldnt be that good. And guess what ? its totally true. I dont hate the game, to me its average game its NOT the greatest game ever or the best game ever made. Best game ever made to me is EVERQUEST! I spent 80$ on this game played for few days and already bored. I really dont think imma play this game when the rift expansion comes out. ALL these for you fan boys to face the fact that its NOT the greatest game ever and its just another MMO better than some and worse than a few.

 

Some pro opionions you got there. 

But wait... are you not saying there that people that like the game are wrong? Damn, I'm sorry!

  bexinh

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Joined: 8/19/10
Posts: 71

 
OP  9/07/12 1:45:16 AM#25
Originally posted by grimm6th
Originally posted by bexinh

Ok, so everyone seems to be afraid of criticize ...says Mr. I-have-only-two-posts... the "greatest game ever", Guild Wars'cuz its gonna upset all the fan boys and girls outthere. BUT admit it, GUILD WAR 2 is NOT really that great ...in your opinion!  The game doesn't rewrite MMO history like all the fan boys and girls have always said ...no we haven't.  It's not even better than RIFT ...in your opinion. GW2 has no raids... btw, if u call dynamic events raiding, that's because when the definition of RAID (redundant array of independent disks) came out you were just 3 years old...

*rant continues for a while*

...for you fan boys and girls to face the fact that its NOT the greatest game ever and its just another MMO better than some and worse than a few.

 

I made a few grammar and spelling corrections to help me read this post, and I inserted my commentary on specific things you said.

However, what i really wanted to address is the complete misunderstanding of reality you revealed in typing the part at the end...

How good a game is is subjective, and each person can have their own opinion.  Facts are objective, and are not subject to an individual's opinion.  YOU do not think that GW2 is the greatest game ever.  This does not make it a fact.

 

...Oh, and if you do not find my RAID vs. raid comment funny, I apologize.

My apology for my English Gramma. As u can see i dont post in the forum that often as the matter of fact this is my first times ever i posted my opinion toward something. I just find rediculous when all the fan boys blindly defend the game. Yes English is not my first language and this is not high school. Thank you for fixing my mistakes but no thanks i got my Bachalor degrees. And please stop hating me. I'm just posting my opinions ... if u agree with me thumb up if not thumb down no big deal.

  TheHavok

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9/07/12 1:49:30 AM#26

The game has good mechanics.  The game is focused on balancing around PvP. 

It invokes a strong sense of "easy to learn, hard to master".

This game is delivering on what it sought out to do.  Not sure what you were expecting from GW2 - but its a good game.

  Yaevindusk

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Joined: 9/05/10
Posts: 1276

Logic, reason and fact do not supersede human nature. Ignorance reigns without justice.

9/07/12 2:15:44 AM#27

 

This post has nothing to support the opinion, and is bashing people's opinions while also hypocritically implying that someone disagreeing with those who dislike the game instantly makes them a fanboy.

Being trilingual myself, it isn't hard to at least make something look good in another language; this is just a sad, ill conceived attempt to troll a community.  It lacks depth, structure and proper thought that one would expect from any serious post.  Honestly, just reading it would make one laugh if it wasn't just plain sad.  :(

I'm honestly trying to say to myself that the writer isn't lying about actually playing the game, as there is just so much wrong with what he attempted to convey to his audience.

Disliking a game is just fine.  Please express yourself responsibly and write in an efficient and educated manner.  Many people will respect you for it and accept that it's how you feel.  For instance, I play FFXIV, but I still very much agree that it's a horribly made game.  It doesn't keep me from playing it, nor do I wish to delude myself that it's great just because I play monthly for it and want it to do better.

Simply stating (with intent to agrovate), "THIS GAME IS NOT GOOD.  U THINK IT'S GOOD?  WOW ALLOWS THIS, EQ ALLOWS THAT, RIFT DOES THIS, TERA IS THERE... IF YOU LIKE THIS U R WRONG" isn't a way to convey your thoughts in a proper manner and simply adds potential cross-game flame wars, and a comparison that people in general are tired of hearing.  It also isn't appropriate to designate your lacking (as previous explained) opinion as "fact", as that makes you sound belligerent and lacking suitable credibility.

When faced with strife or discontent, the true nature of a man is brought forth. It is then when we see the character of the individual. It is then we are able to tell if he is mature enough to grin and bare it, or subject his fellow man to his complaints and woes.

  soulfly205

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Joined: 3/27/12
Posts: 32

9/07/12 2:24:06 AM#28

Honestly one great thing gw2 has got right is the sense of community and the "we're all in it together" feel.

 

Rift's rifts were okay but they are lacking something GW2 has. Hell in Rift rifts became so unimportant because of raids that nobody hardly rifted. I think what makes GW2 have better DEs than rift is that is the best way to level. In Rift most people just quested and maybe participated  in a few rifts, or they'd quest till a rift event was over then wack the main mob once and get credit

  grimm6th

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Joined: 10/22/10
Posts: 978

9/07/12 2:27:07 AM#29
Originally posted by bexinh

My apology for my English Gramma. As u can see i dont post in the forum that often as the matter of fact this is my first times ever i posted my opinion toward something. I just find rediculous when all the fan boys blindly defend the game. Yes English is not my first language and this is not high school. Thank you for fixing my mistakes but no thanks i got my Bachalor degrees. And please stop hating me. I'm just posting my opinions ... if u agree with me thumb up if not thumb down no big deal.

 

Yes...opinions.  I think you said something about facts, so I decided to rant about it.

I don't hate.  Period.  Full stop.  I don't hate you.  I don't hate anyone.

Players blindly defending GW2 would be if they didn't see that there are problems with the game.  I don't see this happening at all.  I do see a lot of people enjoying the game and ignoring the occasional problem here and there.

 

Oh, and yeah, I kinda missed that you had been a member since 2010 so my comment about you having so few posts was fairly dumb.  Sorry about that.

I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.

  faxnadu

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Joined: 3/28/08
Posts: 956

9/07/12 2:30:10 AM#30
Originally posted by bexinh

Ok so, everyone seems to be afraid of criticize "the greatest game ever Guild war 2" cuz its gonna upset all the fan boys outthere. BUT admid it GUILD WAR 2 is NOT really that great! The game doesnt rewrite the MMO history like all the fan boys always said. IT's not even better than RIFT. GW2 has no raid .... btw if u call the dynamic events (or rift invasion) is raiding.... thats because when the definition of RAID came out u were just 3 years old. The class system is stupid. Every game allows u to perform different roles these days even WOW allows u to do so. Gameplay needless to say its nothing innovate about it.... tab ur target and smash the hot keys... TERA has better game play than this game at least its something different from what outthere. Imo the only good thing about this game is its free. I remember someone in this forum said if this game wasnt free then the rating wouldnt be that good. And guess what ? its totally true. I dont hate the game, to me its average game its NOT the greatest game ever or the best game ever made. Best game ever made to me is EVERQUEST! I spent 80$ on this game played for few days and already bored. I really dont think imma play this game when the rift expansion comes out. ALL these for you fan boys to face the fact that its NOT the greatest game ever and its just another MMO better than some and worse than a few.

 

you use the " cuz " your post is meaningless garbage also mr, 3 post refering to new games to some old game like everquest is not gona give you any feathers in your hat , it dosnt make you any more respected player with opinions if you saw pictures from everquest and see others talking about it and then think " man if i refer always to some old game im kewl " nah many people think that way yes but to me is lame. so off with ya.

  Flo13

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9/07/12 2:34:32 AM#31
Originally posted by meari
I think the guy's account has been hacked by some of our regular baiters. Joined since 2010 and his first post is to flame GW2?

I'm better than her/him: 2009. Maybe we like only to read.

For me is just another MMORPG in my life gamer list.

So I enjoy my trip and I wish you all the best.

On-topic: If  "The game is NOT really that great!", stop playing! Is so simple, more simple than in real life.

 

N.B. It seems that someone else thinks like you : " Your post has been been flagged as possible spam. Please complete the Captcha form below to verify you're human."


 

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  User Deleted
9/07/12 2:38:47 AM#32
Originally posted by bexinh

Ok so, everyone seems to be afraid of criticize "the greatest game ever Guild war 2" cuz its gonna upset all the fan boys outthere. BUT admid it GUILD WAR 2 is NOT really that great! The game doesnt rewrite the MMO history like all the fan boys always said. IT's not even better than RIFT. GW2 has no raid .... btw if u call the dynamic events (or rift invasion) is raiding.... thats because when the definition of RAID came out u were just 3 years old. The class system is stupid. Every game allows u to perform different roles these days even WOW allows u to do so. Gameplay needless to say its nothing innovate about it.... tab ur target and smash the hot keys... TERA has better game play than this game at least its something different from what outthere. Imo the only good thing about this game is its free. I remember someone in this forum said if this game wasnt free then the rating wouldnt be that good. And guess what ? its totally true. I dont hate the game, to me its average game its NOT the greatest game ever or the best game ever made. Best game ever made to me is EVERQUEST! I spent 80$ on this game played for few days and already bored. I really dont think imma play this game when the rift expansion comes out. ALL these for you fan boys to face the fact that its NOT the greatest game ever and its just another MMO better than some and worse than a few.

 

 

You, like many others, don't enjoy GW2. Great. See that "<--" button in your browser? Click it. Those of us who are enjoying ourselves will be able to live without you. Really, it's ok. Don't worry about us, we'll be fine. Take care. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

  User Deleted
9/07/12 2:46:17 AM#33
Originally posted by soulfly205

Honestly one great thing gw2 has got right is the sense of community and the "we're all in it together" feel.

 

Rift's rifts were okay but they are lacking something GW2 has. Hell in Rift rifts became so unimportant because of raids that nobody hardly rifted. I think what makes GW2 have better DEs than rift is that is the best way to level. In Rift most people just quested and maybe participated  in a few rifts, or they'd quest till a rift event was over then wack the main mob once and get credit

I've played both Rift and am playing GW2. I LIKED the idea of dynamic events in Rift and I'm enjoying the DE's in GW2. They ARE very different. I can't really say one is better than the other. The Rift invasion things were pretty cool, but the randomly spawning rifts were kinda 'meh'. They were actually very static in that there was a finite number of waves and they were all rather predictable. I liked that it automatically put you in a group/raid with those nearby.

GW2 does it slightly differently. I wouldn't say better or worse. Some of them are kinda dumb and some are broken. Some are VERY cool. I think, even though Rift put you all in a group together, GW2 does a better job of enticing people to cooperate, particularly the downed state and everyone being rewarded based on their contributions.

Again, I thought Rift was a good game and I certainly don't fault the OP for preferring it. I rather liked the lore and the environment and everything. But I take issue with "GW2 is a BAD GAME!". No, it's not. It has problems and bugs and things we're all getting used to. It hasn't been out two whole weeks yet. ANet has had some problems and I'd REALLY like to kick the guy who designed certain underwater events in the twig and berries. But ANet has a history of refining and perfecting things and I'm confident it will continue.

 

These constant "OMG IT SUX" posts, such as the OP's, are tiresome. They were tiresome with SWTOR. You people that post them seem to be laboring under the delusion that the rest of us are REALLY on the fence and your witty synopsis of how bad things are just might be the thing to swing us back to sanity. It's either that or you still haven't figured out WE DON'T REALLY GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU THINK.

  bone12

Novice Member

Joined: 3/22/08
Posts: 33

9/07/12 2:49:10 AM#34
Originally posted by bexinh

Ok so, everyone seems to be afraid of criticize "the greatest game ever Guild war 2" cuz its gonna upset all the fan boys outthere. BUT admid it GUILD WAR 2 is NOT really that great! The game doesnt rewrite the MMO history like all the fan boys always said. IT's not even better than RIFT. GW2 has no raid .... btw if u call the dynamic events (or rift invasion) is raiding.... thats because when the definition of RAID came out u were just 3 years old. The class system is stupid. Every game allows u to perform different roles these days even WOW allows u to do so. Gameplay needless to say its nothing innovate about it.... tab ur target and smash the hot keys... TERA has better game play than this game at least its something different from what outthere. Imo the only good thing about this game is its free. I remember someone in this forum said if this game wasnt free then the rating wouldnt be that good. And guess what ? its totally true. I dont hate the game, to me its average game its NOT the greatest game ever or the best game ever made. Best game ever made to me is EVERQUEST! I spent 80$ on this game played for few days and already bored. I really dont think imma play this game when the rift expansion comes out. ALL these for you fan boys to face the fact that its NOT the greatest game ever and its just another MMO better than some and worse than a few.

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not all games needs raids dummy.. Guild wars 2 is a nice system, Dungeon system,Event system ETc.. GW2 is better then Rift.. or Wow.. but not better then Tera..

  dariuszp

Novice Member

Joined: 1/19/12
Posts: 187

9/07/12 2:53:26 AM#35
Originally posted by bexinh

Ok so, everyone seems to be afraid of criticize "the greatest game ever Guild war 2" cuz its gonna upset all the fan boys outthere. BUT admid it GUILD WAR 2 is NOT really that great! The game doesnt rewrite the MMO history like all the fan boys always said. IT's not even better than RIFT. GW2 has no raid .... btw if u call the dynamic events (or rift invasion) is raiding.... thats because when the definition of RAID came out u were just 3 years old. The class system is stupid. Every game allows u to perform different roles these days even WOW allows u to do so. Gameplay needless to say its nothing innovate about it.... tab ur target and smash the hot keys... TERA has better game play than this game at least its something different from what outthere. Imo the only good thing about this game is its free. I remember someone in this forum said if this game wasnt free then the rating wouldnt be that good. And guess what ? its totally true. I dont hate the game, to me its average game its NOT the greatest game ever or the best game ever made. Best game ever made to me is EVERQUEST! I spent 80$ on this game played for few days and already bored. I really dont think imma play this game when the rift expansion comes out. ALL these for you fan boys to face the fact that its NOT the greatest game ever and its just another MMO better than some and worse than a few.

You know, adults here knew from Dev Blog and from beta weekends that GW2 was NEVER expected to rewrite anything. Those who never played part in beta weekends knew this from YOUTUBE. 

Class system is not stupid. It's different. Calling something stupid just because you don't understand it just make you look... you know. Because of holy trinity in other games you will be helpless undying kid as medic, punching bag tank or some kid running around with a sword.

No one never said that saper can't learn how to perform surgery. Same with GW2. Every class have bit of defense, offense and healing. Some classes have more. For example Guardian and Elementalist (at lesast) can heal and help. Warrior and Thief are good dps classes etc. They are universal but they can focus on something. It's much much better than doing single thing entire time for EVERY F****NG LEVEL UNTIL THE END.

Terra can feel better because it's more flashy. You should notice that in GW2 you DON'T NEED TO TARGET MOB TO HIT IT if you are not a range class. Even range class could hit without targeting. Targeting help only range classes to keep aim at mobs and it give you information about given mob.

Rating would be good even with monthly fee mate. Because it's just a good game. Maybe you are not bored but lost ? From what you say - you can't play game that don't give you specific role, hold your hand from begining to the end and keep telling you what to do and how to do it.

And last but not least. Adults here were aware that GW2 is not suppose to rewrite history. GW2 did that WoW did years ago. They took best ideas out there. Then they look at the rest and they started to look how to make things better. And then they took some time and they made great MMO.

  bubaluba

Novice Member

Joined: 7/23/12
Posts: 464

9/07/12 2:56:58 AM#36
Yea that is true, i wait to for storm legion :) In fact even now Rift is much better game
  JimmyYO

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Joined: 9/13/11
Posts: 541

9/07/12 2:58:38 AM#37

"GW2 fanboi's just don't see, Rift fanboi's alright though dog." Pretty much sums up this post. Yes GW2 is nothing special other then being free and will mostly be forgotten a couple months from now when no endgame is discovered by all. However, GW2 does show alot of MMO's how good free can be and hopefully will put alot of these greedily built sub/cash shop MMO's out of business where they belong.

  User Deleted
9/07/12 3:02:02 AM#38
Originally posted by dariuszp
Originally posted by bexinh

Ok so, everyone seems to be afraid of criticize "the greatest game ever Guild war 2" cuz its gonna upset all the fan boys outthere. BUT admid it GUILD WAR 2 is NOT really that great! The game doesnt rewrite the MMO history like all the fan boys always said. IT's not even better than RIFT. GW2 has no raid .... btw if u call the dynamic events (or rift invasion) is raiding.... thats because when the definition of RAID came out u were just 3 years old. The class system is stupid. Every game allows u to perform different roles these days even WOW allows u to do so. Gameplay needless to say its nothing innovate about it.... tab ur target and smash the hot keys... TERA has better game play than this game at least its something different from what outthere. Imo the only good thing about this game is its free. I remember someone in this forum said if this game wasnt free then the rating wouldnt be that good. And guess what ? its totally true. I dont hate the game, to me its average game its NOT the greatest game ever or the best game ever made. Best game ever made to me is EVERQUEST! I spent 80$ on this game played for few days and already bored. I really dont think imma play this game when the rift expansion comes out. ALL these for you fan boys to face the fact that its NOT the greatest game ever and its just another MMO better than some and worse than a few.

You know, adults here knew from Dev Blog and from beta weekends that GW2 was NEVER expected to rewrite anything. Those who never played part in beta weekends knew this from YOUTUBE. 

Class system is not stupid. It's different. Calling something stupid just because you don't understand it just make you look... you know. Because of holy trinity in other games you will be helpless undying kid as medic, punching bag tank or some kid running around with a sword.

No one never said that saper can't learn how to perform surgery. Same with GW2. Every class have bit of defense, offense and healing. Some classes have more. For example Guardian and Elementalist (at lesast) can heal and help. Warrior and Thief are good dps classes etc. They are universal but they can focus on something. It's much much better than doing single thing entire time for EVERY F****NG LEVEL UNTIL THE END.

Terra can feel better because it's more flashy. You should notice that in GW2 you DON'T NEED TO TARGET MOB TO HIT IT if you are not a range class. Even range class could hit without targeting. Targeting help only range classes to keep aim at mobs and it give you information about given mob.

Rating would be good even with monthly fee mate. Because it's just a good game. Maybe you are not bored but lost ? From what you say - you can't play game that don't give you specific role, hold your hand from begining to the end and keep telling you what to do and how to do it.

And last but not least. Adults here were aware that GW2 is not suppose to rewrite history. GW2 did that WoW did years ago. They took best ideas out there. Then they look at the rest and they started to look how to make things better. And then they took some time and they made great MMO.

Yeah, lot of people don't seem to realize you don't have to ahve a target to fire off an ability and indeed many of the affects, you don't WANT a target. There are several abilities on offhands that do harmful things to enemies and/or helpful things to allies in a cone in front of you. Also, combo fields.

I think a LOT of complaints are coming from either unfamiliarity, to put it nicely, or outright ignorance. Just tonight a friend was playing her necro in WvWvW. There were a ton of enemies in a narrow hall. She hit her signet to apply an asston of conditions to a target and then she hit her ability that spreads those conditions to everyone around. She wiped out the entire defending force almost entirely single handedly. She had never quite realized how powerful that combination of abilities was. She never really played GW1 so she had no experience with how ANet synergizes abilities like that.

  2minokua

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Joined: 8/04/10
Posts: 2

9/07/12 3:17:06 AM#39
Ok... if you want other game or not go for other one, every person in this forums go here and comment very bad of it... and blah blah blah... ok people we understand... please the people that don't like...post in the same post, no one for person -_- is very maddening every day the same situation... for 10 people who make this...
  Aori

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Joined: 1/28/06
Posts: 1824

9/07/12 3:17:15 AM#40
Originally posted by JimmyYO

"GW2 fanboi's just don't see, Rift fanboi's alright though dog." Pretty much sums up this post. Yes GW2 is nothing special other then being free and will mostly be forgotten a couple months from now when no endgame is discovered by all. However, GW2 does show alot of MMO's how good free can be and hopefully will put alot of these greedily built sub/cash shop MMO's out of business where they belong.

B2P and F2P will ruin the genre even more, I don't want COD MMO's. Companies just need to start putting out quality games that deserve a SUB.

Also GW2 has a cash shop..

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