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  stratasaurus

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Posts: 222

9/06/12 5:46:17 PM#21
Originally posted by Requiem1066
Originally posted by grimgryphon
Originally posted by Wolvards

I still don't feel it's very professional. I bought the game, the forums were supposed to come with it. 

I don't remember reading anywhere that forums were a feature of Guild Wars 2.

No but forums are a basic part of any basic MMO, so it is unprofessional to not have them working 

If I remember correcly I read in a ANET communication that forums are coming they did not put them in with Launch because they want all their resources going to making sure the game servers can support as much load as possible and not having to worry about Forum bandwidth load.  So unless I misread it the forums are coming as soon as server loads stabilize.

  User Deleted
9/06/12 5:46:20 PM#22
Originally posted by Wolvards
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Grimlock426
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Jason1989

 

I don't believe a combination of Facebook/twitter posts is the proper place to do these things.

Why not? 

Because not everyone wants to use Facebook/Twitter and they shouldn't have to in order to get information about the game they are playing.  They game should provide the information on their website. 

Not everyone wants to register for a forum.  They update their Wiki.  They can do what they like.  One thing that is good about the facebook is the anominity trolls are not as prevalent.

I still don't feel it's very professional. I bought the game, the forums were supposed to come with it. Their forums have been up over previous beta weekends as a READ only, why can't they atleast give us that with the patch notes? I'm fine if they are ok with using twitter and faceplant, but i'm not huge into, and i'm only 20 years old. Social media is a debate for another forum, but from a professional company I expect a tad more.

Atleast give us read only forums with patch notes and support.

EDIT: seems we were given EXACTLY what I was asking for, haha, thanks for the wiki link above i didn't know that existed, and it lead me to a temporary GW2 support forum with everything i'm looking for.

 

Isn't that the issue this thread is trying to discuss?

  elocke

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9/06/12 5:46:47 PM#23

Here:  https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum

They just opened up the dev and support section of the forums.  Now you can go to their official forums for updates.  It's been 2 weeks,  I think they are doing a pretty good job at shoring up any launch issues on a consistent basis.

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  Rokurgepta

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Joined: 8/15/08
Posts: 2208

9/06/12 5:46:47 PM#24
Originally posted by Requiem1066
Originally posted by grimgryphon
Originally posted by Wolvards

I still don't feel it's very professional. I bought the game, the forums were supposed to come with it. 

I don't remember reading anywhere that forums were a feature of Guild Wars 2.

No but forums are a basic part of any basic MMO, so it is unprofessional to not have them working 

 Did you create your account just to hack on GW2? They have said why they turned the forums off. We all know why and I accept their reasoning. But then again I am not here to just hack on this game post after post after post.

  Krytycal

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Posts: 527

9/06/12 5:47:15 PM#25
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Grimlock426
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Jason1989

 

I don't believe a combination of Facebook/twitter posts is the proper place to do these things.

Why not? 

Because not everyone wants to use Facebook/Twitter and they shouldn't have to in order to get information about the game they are playing.  They game should provide the information on their website. 

Why not?  It's being provided.  You're on the internet and that is how the information is being communicated.  They also provide periodic updates on their wiki.  If you want up to date information then use Facebook and Twitter if not then do without.

What if I don't want to have to surf the internet for info?  Maybe they should call me personally and explain each update since some of us don't like browsing the net.

Because 3rd party social media sites are not professional means of communication, and you shouldn't expect your costumers to use myspace, twitter, facebook, or whatever the current fad that teenage american girls are flocking to is.

 

If they can make a bazillion twitter comments each day, and post pictures on Facebook, then they can create a simple HTML page with up-to-date information and link it from the launcher. It's not that hard, heck, use the Wiki and link it if you have to. At this point even a link to forum announcements will do.

  Jason1989

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Joined: 12/12/08
Posts: 28

 
OP  9/06/12 5:47:15 PM#26
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Grimlock426
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Jason1989

 

I don't believe a combination of Facebook/twitter posts is the proper place to do these things.

Why not? 

Because not everyone wants to use Facebook/Twitter and they shouldn't have to in order to get information about the game they are playing.  They game should provide the information on their website. 

Why not?  It's being provided.  You're on the internet and that is how the information is being communicated.  They also provide periodic updates on their wiki.  If you want up to date information then use Facebook and Twitter if not then do without.

What if I don't want to have to surf the internet for info?  Maybe they should call me personally and explain each update since some of us don't like browsing the net.

First of all I don't have a twitter account, I have no desire to, and I never will have one. Facebook and twitter are not professional. They are fine if you want to use it for marketing and such, but as a central hub to communicate buisiness related material... these are not the places.

One thing Diablo 3 did right (if anything) is their forums. They have constant feedback and information for the community all in one place. Posting on GW2's facebook wall about an issue I have with the game is not the same as creating a thread on a forum. Not to mention the cap on those posts. These social media sites are just not professional or made to replace a game's official forum. Didn't think this was that hard of a concept to grasp.

  KyutaSyuko

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Joined: 3/30/05
Posts: 235

9/06/12 5:47:48 PM#27
Originally posted by Requiem1066
Originally posted by grimgryphon
Originally posted by Wolvards

I still don't feel it's very professional. I bought the game, the forums were supposed to come with it. 

I don't remember reading anywhere that forums were a feature of Guild Wars 2.

No but forums are a basic part of any basic MMO, so it is unprofessional to not have them working 

Who decided this?  What authority were they given to decide this?  I'm sorry but I disagree.  Of all the games I played I rarely visited the forums except to check patch notes and only because that was the only place the full patch notes were.

  stratasaurus

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Joined: 12/18/11
Posts: 222

9/06/12 5:48:16 PM#28
Originally posted by Jason1989
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Grimlock426
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Jason1989

 

I don't believe a combination of Facebook/twitter posts is the proper place to do these things.

Why not? 

Because not everyone wants to use Facebook/Twitter and they shouldn't have to in order to get information about the game they are playing.  They game should provide the information on their website. 

Why not?  It's being provided.  You're on the internet and that is how the information is being communicated.  They also provide periodic updates on their wiki.  If you want up to date information then use Facebook and Twitter if not then do without.

What if I don't want to have to surf the internet for info?  Maybe they should call me personally and explain each update since some of us don't like browsing the net.

First of all I don't have a twitter account, I have no desire to, and I never will have one. Facebook and twitter are not professional. They are fine if you want to use it for marketing and such, but as a central hub to communicate buisness related material... these are not the places.

One thing Diablo 3 did right (if anything) is their forums. They have constant feedback and information for the community all in one place. Posting on GW2's facebook wall about an issue I have with the game is not the same as creating a thread on a forum. Not to mention the cap on those posts. These social media sites are just not professional or made to replace a game's offical forum. Didn't think this was that hard of a concept to grasp.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A TWITTER ACCOUNT TO READ THEIR TWITTER UPDATES.  GET OVER IT

  User Deleted
9/06/12 5:50:30 PM#29
Originally posted by Jason1989

Is the lack of communcation from ArenaNet to the community. Everyday I log into and there is some small patch/files I download before playing. What are these? Whats being fixed? I don't know because there is no patch notes.

There is no official forum to communicate the issues the games has either.  Why?

I understand the Trading Post is down and thats fine I guess, but they need to have a place where they can communicate with us and say "We know its not working, we are doing this and it should be ready at this estimated time".

I don't believe a combination of Facebook/twitter posts is the proper place to do these things.

Arenanet has communicated more than any other company that I have ever followed.  If you refuse to listen to their communication channels, that's your own fault.

  KyutaSyuko

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Joined: 3/30/05
Posts: 235

9/06/12 5:51:18 PM#30
Originally posted by Jason1989
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Grimlock426
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Jason1989

 

I don't believe a combination of Facebook/twitter posts is the proper place to do these things.

Why not? 

Because not everyone wants to use Facebook/Twitter and they shouldn't have to in order to get information about the game they are playing.  They game should provide the information on their website. 

Why not?  It's being provided.  You're on the internet and that is how the information is being communicated.  They also provide periodic updates on their wiki.  If you want up to date information then use Facebook and Twitter if not then do without.

What if I don't want to have to surf the internet for info?  Maybe they should call me personally and explain each update since some of us don't like browsing the net.

First of all I don't have a twitter account, I have no desire to, and I never will have one. Facebook and twitter are not professional. They are fine if you want to use it for marketing and such, but as a central hub to communicate buisness related material... these are not the places.

One thing Diablo 3 did right (if anything) is their forums. They have constant feedback and information for the community all in one place. Posting on GW2's facebook wall about an issue I have with the game is not the same as creating a thread on a forum. Not to mention the cap on those posts. These social media sites are just not professional or made to replace a game's offical forum. Didn't think this was that hard of a concept to grasp.

Well it's obvious you don't have a Facebook or Twitter otherwise you would know that pretty much every company is using it for the same reasons ANet is using it.  You people act like ANet is the first or something...

  Jason1989

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Joined: 12/12/08
Posts: 28

 
OP  9/06/12 5:53:57 PM#31
Originally posted by stratasaurus
Originally posted by Jason1989
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Grimlock426
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Jason1989

 

I don't believe a combination of Facebook/twitter posts is the proper place to do these things.

Why not? 

Because not everyone wants to use Facebook/Twitter and they shouldn't have to in order to get information about the game they are playing.  They game should provide the information on their website. 

Why not?  It's being provided.  You're on the internet and that is how the information is being communicated.  They also provide periodic updates on their wiki.  If you want up to date information then use Facebook and Twitter if not then do without.

What if I don't want to have to surf the internet for info?  Maybe they should call me personally and explain each update since some of us don't like browsing the net.

First of all I don't have a twitter account, I have no desire to, and I never will have one. Facebook and twitter are not professional. They are fine if you want to use it for marketing and such, but as a central hub to communicate buisness related material... these are not the places.

One thing Diablo 3 did right (if anything) is their forums. They have constant feedback and information for the community all in one place. Posting on GW2's facebook wall about an issue I have with the game is not the same as creating a thread on a forum. Not to mention the cap on those posts. These social media sites are just not professional or made to replace a game's offical forum. Didn't think this was that hard of a concept to grasp.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A TWITTER ACCOUNT TO READ THEIR TWITTER UPDATES.  GET OVER IT

I am simply creating a discussion on what I think one of the game's faults is. Why post something like that if you have nothing constructive to say? I am not on here saying GW2 sucks and you shouldn't buy it... just pointing something out. Maybe you should get over the fact that people will have things to say about this game that aren't always positive. This forum is here to discuss various aspects of the game and if you can't handle those discussions then get off here.

  Rokurgepta

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Posts: 2208

9/06/12 5:54:28 PM#32
Originally posted by Krytycal
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Grimlock426
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Jason1989

 

I don't believe a combination of Facebook/twitter posts is the proper place to do these things.

Why not? 

Because not everyone wants to use Facebook/Twitter and they shouldn't have to in order to get information about the game they are playing.  They game should provide the information on their website. 

Why not?  It's being provided.  You're on the internet and that is how the information is being communicated.  They also provide periodic updates on their wiki.  If you want up to date information then use Facebook and Twitter if not then do without.

What if I don't want to have to surf the internet for info?  Maybe they should call me personally and explain each update since some of us don't like browsing the net.

Because 3rd party social media sites are not professional means of communication, and you shouldn't expect your costumers to use myspace, twitter, facebook, or whatever the current fad that teenage american girls are flocking to is.

 

If they can make a bazillion twitter comments each day, and post pictures on Facebook, then they can create a simple HTML page with up-to-date information and link it from the launcher. It's not that hard, heck, use the Wiki and link it if you have to. At this point even a link to forum announcements will do.

 A couple of things.

 

1. Those are not fads used by teenage girls, if you think thats all they are you are out of touch and that explains why you think it is so unprofessional to use them.

 

2. There is a link on the launcher. It amazes me how few people seem to know what they are complaining about, but damn they love to complain.

  User Deleted
9/06/12 5:54:35 PM#33
Originally posted by stratasaurus
Originally posted by Jason1989
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Grimlock426
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Jason1989

 

I don't believe a combination of Facebook/twitter posts is the proper place to do these things.

Why not? 

Because not everyone wants to use Facebook/Twitter and they shouldn't have to in order to get information about the game they are playing.  They game should provide the information on their website. 

Why not?  It's being provided.  You're on the internet and that is how the information is being communicated.  They also provide periodic updates on their wiki.  If you want up to date information then use Facebook and Twitter if not then do without.

What if I don't want to have to surf the internet for info?  Maybe they should call me personally and explain each update since some of us don't like browsing the net.

First of all I don't have a twitter account, I have no desire to, and I never will have one. Facebook and twitter are not professional. They are fine if you want to use it for marketing and such, but as a central hub to communicate buisness related material... these are not the places.

One thing Diablo 3 did right (if anything) is their forums. They have constant feedback and information for the community all in one place. Posting on GW2's facebook wall about an issue I have with the game is not the same as creating a thread on a forum. Not to mention the cap on those posts. These social media sites are just not professional or made to replace a game's offical forum. Didn't think this was that hard of a concept to grasp.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A TWITTER ACCOUNT TO READ THEIR TWITTER UPDATES.  GET OVER IT

 

 

YOU DO IF YOU WANT TO POST SOMETHING! LEARN TO READ!!!

  rygard49

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9/06/12 5:54:46 PM#34

The website links to the wiki page for info. As long as the homepage is directing  you to the correct place to check updates, I don't see a problem there.

Forums are another issue entirely. In the past I've played games that refuse to provide official forums due to the amount of effort it requires to the maintain, and the implied responsibility on the dev staff to answer player concerns. Some developers don't want players to expect that kind of access, and the simple answer is just not to have forums. Fan forums suffice in most cases.

  Jason1989

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Joined: 12/12/08
Posts: 28

 
OP  9/06/12 5:56:52 PM#35
Originally posted by Rokurgepta
Originally posted by Krytycal
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Grimlock426
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Jason1989

 

I don't believe a combination of Facebook/twitter posts is the proper place to do these things.

Why not? 

Because not everyone wants to use Facebook/Twitter and they shouldn't have to in order to get information about the game they are playing.  They game should provide the information on their website. 

Why not?  It's being provided.  You're on the internet and that is how the information is being communicated.  They also provide periodic updates on their wiki.  If you want up to date information then use Facebook and Twitter if not then do without.

What if I don't want to have to surf the internet for info?  Maybe they should call me personally and explain each update since some of us don't like browsing the net.

Because 3rd party social media sites are not professional means of communication, and you shouldn't expect your costumers to use myspace, twitter, facebook, or whatever the current fad that teenage american girls are flocking to is.

 

If they can make a bazillion twitter comments each day, and post pictures on Facebook, then they can create a simple HTML page with up-to-date information and link it from the launcher. It's not that hard, heck, use the Wiki and link it if you have to. At this point even a link to forum announcements will do.

 A couple of things.

 

1. Those are not fads used by teenage girls, if you think thats all they are you are out of touch and that explains why you think it is so unprofessional to use them.

 

2. There is a link on the launcher. It amazes me how few people seem to know what they are complaining about, but damn they love to complain.

My launcher has no such link.

  Rokurgepta

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Joined: 8/15/08
Posts: 2208

9/06/12 5:57:31 PM#36
Originally posted by Jason1989
Originally posted by stratasaurus
Originally posted by Jason1989
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Grimlock426
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Jason1989

 

I don't believe a combination of Facebook/twitter posts is the proper place to do these things.

Why not? 

Because not everyone wants to use Facebook/Twitter and they shouldn't have to in order to get information about the game they are playing.  They game should provide the information on their website. 

Why not?  It's being provided.  You're on the internet and that is how the information is being communicated.  They also provide periodic updates on their wiki.  If you want up to date information then use Facebook and Twitter if not then do without.

What if I don't want to have to surf the internet for info?  Maybe they should call me personally and explain each update since some of us don't like browsing the net.

First of all I don't have a twitter account, I have no desire to, and I never will have one. Facebook and twitter are not professional. They are fine if you want to use it for marketing and such, but as a central hub to communicate buisness related material... these are not the places.

One thing Diablo 3 did right (if anything) is their forums. They have constant feedback and information for the community all in one place. Posting on GW2's facebook wall about an issue I have with the game is not the same as creating a thread on a forum. Not to mention the cap on those posts. These social media sites are just not professional or made to replace a game's offical forum. Didn't think this was that hard of a concept to grasp.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A TWITTER ACCOUNT TO READ THEIR TWITTER UPDATES.  GET OVER IT

I am simply creating a discussion on what I think one of the game's faults is. Why post something like that if you have nothing constructive to say? I am not on here saying GW2 sucks and you shouldn't buy it... just pointing something out. Maybe you should get over the fact that people will have things to say about this game that aren't always positive. This forum is here to discuss various aspects of the game and if you can't handle those discussions then get off here.

 I love when people complain about their right to complain by telling other people not to discuss it. You pointed something out and the poster you quoted was pointing out a very IMPORTANT fact to the people bitching, you can read the twitter update WITHOUT having a twitter account. Since part of your OP was whining about that, his pointing that out should have been good for you. But because his point takes away from your whine you claim he cant handle your OP. Clearly you cant handle facts and reasoning.

 

 

  Requiem1066

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Joined: 8/28/12
Posts: 274

9/06/12 5:59:06 PM#37
Originally posted by Rokurgepta
Originally posted by Requiem1066
Originally posted by grimgryphon
Originally posted by Wolvards

I still don't feel it's very professional. I bought the game, the forums were supposed to come with it. 

I don't remember reading anywhere that forums were a feature of Guild Wars 2.

No but forums are a basic part of any basic MMO, so it is unprofessional to not have them working 

 Did you create your account just to hack on GW2? They have said why they turned the forums off. We all know why and I accept their reasoning. But then again I am not here to just hack on this game post after post after post.

Oh sorry .. YOU accept it so it must be right and everyone else wrong ? .. Seriously forums are the first thing that any game company get's working before they even have beta's .

 and the " if you don't fawn over the game you must hate it " arguement is old and childish . I paid the same amount of money as you did for the game so i have every right to voice my opinion whether you like it  or not.

Doesn't mean my opinion is right  anymore than your opinion makes you right .. I'm not sure what's worse .. blind haters or blind fanbois averse to any critisism of their baby 

 

  Rokurgepta

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Joined: 8/15/08
Posts: 2208

9/06/12 5:59:49 PM#38
Originally posted by Jason1989
Originally posted by Rokurgepta
Originally posted by Krytycal
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Grimlock426
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Jason1989

 

I don't believe a combination of Facebook/twitter posts is the proper place to do these things.

Why not? 

Because not everyone wants to use Facebook/Twitter and they shouldn't have to in order to get information about the game they are playing.  They game should provide the information on their website. 

Why not?  It's being provided.  You're on the internet and that is how the information is being communicated.  They also provide periodic updates on their wiki.  If you want up to date information then use Facebook and Twitter if not then do without.

What if I don't want to have to surf the internet for info?  Maybe they should call me personally and explain each update since some of us don't like browsing the net.

Because 3rd party social media sites are not professional means of communication, and you shouldn't expect your costumers to use myspace, twitter, facebook, or whatever the current fad that teenage american girls are flocking to is.

 

If they can make a bazillion twitter comments each day, and post pictures on Facebook, then they can create a simple HTML page with up-to-date information and link it from the launcher. It's not that hard, heck, use the Wiki and link it if you have to. At this point even a link to forum announcements will do.

 A couple of things.

 

1. Those are not fads used by teenage girls, if you think thats all they are you are out of touch and that explains why you think it is so unprofessional to use them.

 

2. There is a link on the launcher. It amazes me how few people seem to know what they are complaining about, but damn they love to complain.

My launcher has no such link.

 After you put in your name and password but before you click the PLAY button the launcher lists the state of the game link. Click it and it tells you the recent things going on. My launcher has it your will too. Unless you have the auto play button clicked all the time then maybe it bypasses so make sure you have to click play and you should get the same thing I get.

  KyutaSyuko

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Joined: 3/30/05
Posts: 235

9/06/12 6:00:26 PM#39
You know I just thought of an anology for this.  Some of you might agree and some might not. Granted this anology only portrains to the US.  Wouldn't this be similar to complaining about the Presidential Candidates giving their speeches on TV rather then posting them in the Newspaper?  While sure Forums aren't going the way of the newspaper it still takes a bit more effort to look in the newspaper then it would to just turn on the TV just like it would take a little more effort to browse to a forum topic then it would to just open up the Facebook/Twitter app on your phone or something.
  Jason1989

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Joined: 12/12/08
Posts: 28

 
OP  9/06/12 6:00:30 PM#40
Originally posted by Rokurgepta
Originally posted by Jason1989
Originally posted by stratasaurus
Originally posted by Jason1989
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Grimlock426
Originally posted by Badaboom
Originally posted by Jason1989

 

I don't believe a combination of Facebook/twitter posts is the proper place to do these things.

Why not? 

Because not everyone wants to use Facebook/Twitter and they shouldn't have to in order to get information about the game they are playing.  They game should provide the information on their website. 

Why not?  It's being provided.  You're on the internet and that is how the information is being communicated.  They also provide periodic updates on their wiki.  If you want up to date information then use Facebook and Twitter if not then do without.

What if I don't want to have to surf the internet for info?  Maybe they should call me personally and explain each update since some of us don't like browsing the net.

First of all I don't have a twitter account, I have no desire to, and I never will have one. Facebook and twitter are not professional. They are fine if you want to use it for marketing and such, but as a central hub to communicate buisness related material... these are not the places.

One thing Diablo 3 did right (if anything) is their forums. They have constant feedback and information for the community all in one place. Posting on GW2's facebook wall about an issue I have with the game is not the same as creating a thread on a forum. Not to mention the cap on those posts. These social media sites are just not professional or made to replace a game's offical forum. Didn't think this was that hard of a concept to grasp.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A TWITTER ACCOUNT TO READ THEIR TWITTER UPDATES.  GET OVER IT

I am simply creating a discussion on what I think one of the game's faults is. Why post something like that if you have nothing constructive to say? I am not on here saying GW2 sucks and you shouldn't buy it... just pointing something out. Maybe you should get over the fact that people will have things to say about this game that aren't always positive. This forum is here to discuss various aspects of the game and if you can't handle those discussions then get off here.

 I love when people complain about their right to complain by telling other people not to discuss it. You pointed something out and the poster you quoted was pointing out a very IMPORTANT fact to the people bitching, you can read the twitter update WITHOUT having a twitter account. Since part of your OP was whining about that, his pointing that out should have been good for you. But because his point takes away from your whine you claim he cant handle your OP. Clearly you cant handle facts and reasoning.

 

 

Maybe you should read my post again.

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