Originally posted by Creslin321

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Wow

There is more bs flying around in this thread than at a DNC or RNC rally

Impressive to say the least

 LOL for real...

Normally I think that both the "hater" and "fanboi" sides of an argument get spun out of proportion.  But honestly...I relaly only see the "hater" side going crazy with the BS in this thread.

All we on the "fanboi" side of this argument are saying is that I wouldn't really call a game with a 93% metascore, and so many sales that they had to halt first-party sales a failure.  No, it doesn't mean that the game is the best MMORPG ever...but I can't see how you can get "failure" out of this evidence.

And the responses to this are...

"ANet said they would sell 3249083920 bajillion copies, and they didn't...FAIL!"

"Other themeparks failed, so this will too!  FAIL!"

"Terrible server infrastructure.  FAIL!"

Who's saying GW2 was a failure? Definitely not me. It'll probably be more successful than Rift and SWTOR, that's definitely not a failure.

I was merely pointing out someone's delusion in believing that stopping sales for your product is considered a success in the business world. It's actually a failure to forecast sales, doesn't mean the product failed, doesn't mean it shattered every human expectation. It just means some people at the marketing and finance departments didn't do their jobs right. Happens all time in businesses.

Originally posted by Clob

They specifically stated that they have temporarily suspended first party digital sales only.  They let everyone know that other standard avenues for purchase are still available; retail box sales and digital sales through retail partners.  For those that still want to play it's as easy as checking the local Walmart, Target, etc.  They haven't completely cut off access.

I don't always know the agendas of people to just make stuff up to make topics on games sound bad.  What we KNOW is that the sales numbers have exceeded expectations.  There were over one million pre-purchase only sales, preorder and first day sales seeminly added a ton, and then there's a week and a half of sales on top of that.  We'll have to wait a bit for some sale number announcements, but it's fairly easy to see that it's popular.  Ingame there are players everywhere.  Everytime I think I'm all alone in a really remote area I'll run into a heart quest area and within a minute there are several other people coming out of nowhere helping to complete it.

This is the usual, 'facts', argument that the diehards like to bring out.

You know include the actual fact from ANET and then your opinion at the end of the highlight to make it sound that's a fact as well.  You or I have no idea how many were preordered/first day sold/sold this week, so saying a, 'ton' is hillarious after the previous sentence.  My opinion, considering the internet hype on certain sites for GW2, more people would have prepurchased then the other two options for launch.

One thing I do know, if the figures are impressive ANET will release them within three months when players start dropping off to give the impression of high populations everywhere, it's an effective, 'cool party', marketing tool, (i.e. 'loads of people are playing this, your missing out on all the fun!).

Originally posted by hikaru77

and like i said, NCsoft was talking about 3-5 MIll of copies at launch, is not even close.

And like everyone else has said, you're wrong.  NCSoft never said that, but for some reason you keep repeating it.

Originally posted by Krytycal
It broke a record for the most rabid fanbois, not even the Warhammer crowd came close. I guess any mention of a spin on DAoC's PvP gets the fanbois fired up.

It has been epic.

Ohhh what Warhammer should've\could've been though  :(

Originally posted by Badaboom
This whole thread is a broken record.

 This quote is pure win :) lolz

Yes it did! The most annoying system for grouping on release. Let's make a game that doesn't support grouping but call it a MMO. So what if you want to level with friends you are all in different Overflows and no you can't move to theirs.

Other than that I don't think it really broke any records.

The sales were good and while not as high as SWTOR or WOW. They were good enough to be considered a success. Now about the love/hate thing. Why do some people think it is the generic crap? - Unless you're a big Hardcore EVE player, every mmos are pretty much similar to each other. GW2 is a good game and deserve the praises. It pushes the enveloppe far enough to open new doors to inovation. GW2 will greatly influence other MMOs and this is a good thing.

Originally posted by Thorbrand

Yes it did! The most annoying system for grouping on release. Let's make a game that doesn't support grouping but call it a MMO. So what if you want to level with friends you are all in different Overflows and no you can't move to theirs.

Other than that I don't think it really broke any records.

 I have heard that a few people have experienced this issue...but I've honestly NEVER had a problem with it.

If I'm in an overflow server, and my friend is in the real server, he just leaves the zone, comes back and voila!  He's in my server.  He could even just log out and in.  It seriously isn't that big of a deal.

I feel for anyone that had real problems with this, but as I understand it, it's essentially resolved now, and I NEVER had an issue with it.  This is just one of those things that detractors keep harping on like it's the end of the world.  Just like the TP that is actually up and working for everyone now.

Did GW2 break any records? Not really sure it even needs to at this point. Over 1million pre-purchases, thats not counting pre-orders or sales after launch, over 400k concurrent users durring head start we are talking before launch, gaining some of the highest reviews given to an MMO by both critics and players, sold more than projected and even had to halt digital sales.

Did it break any records? I have no idea, but it certainly seems to be doing extremely well so far lol.  

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Did GW2 break any records? Not really sure it even needs to at this point. Over 1million pre-purchases, thats not counting pre-orders or sales after launch, over 400k concurrent users durring head start we are talking before launch, gaining some of the highest reviews given to an MMO by both critics and players, sold more than projected and even had to halt digital sales.

Did it break any records? I have no idea, but it certainly seems to be doing extremely well so far lol.  

 I'm pretty sure it broke the record for irrational hate lol :).

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/guild0-wars-2-thanksgiving-in-tyria/

i really don't care about the game one way or another.  simple google search for ncsoft projected sales of gw2.  some might surprised.

Originally posted by Creslin321

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Did GW2 break any records? Not really sure it even needs to at this point. Over 1million pre-purchases, thats not counting pre-orders or sales after launch, over 400k concurrent users durring head start we are talking before launch, gaining some of the highest reviews given to an MMO by both critics and players, sold more than projected and even had to halt digital sales.

Did it break any records? I have no idea, but it certainly seems to be doing extremely well so far lol.  

 I'm pretty sure it broke the record for irrational hate lol :).

Hate is always irration and i agree, this game has seen the brunt of the ugly in these forums alone. People who never played it, never will, never bought the thing have flocked to these forums since before prelaunch all in the name of throwing misinformation and purile lies out there to the public.

Originally posted by Ponico

The sales were good and while not as high as SWTOR or WOW. They were good enough to be considered a success. Now about the love/hate thing. Why do some people think it is the generic crap? - Unless you're a big Hardcore EVE player, every mmos are pretty much similar to each other. GW2 is a good game and deserve the praises. It pushes the enveloppe far enough to open new doors to inovation. GW2 will greatly influence other MMOs and this is a good thing.

 

I don't think we can necessarily say it hasn't exceeded SW:TOR.  Looking around I see they stated sales of 2.04 million during the week of launch.  The only thing I can find on recent total sales says 2.42 million at http://www.vgchartz.com/game/31584/star-wars-the-old-republic/   I won't declare that as fact.    With ANet knowing in advance of last week that they had already had over one million prepurchased, yet when preorders and launch sales still added so much that it went above what they expected...  

Originally posted by Kaelano1

It broke the record for...

 

"number of adult players complaining a player in their group doesn't play correctly, when said player is under 12 years of age"

 

...previously held by Hello Kitty Online.

 You've been having this go on?

I have to say this has been the most laid back I have ever seen group play. I have not run into a single dick blaming people for things or remarking on their gameplay.

Han't even seen a rage quit yet which considering I pug dungeons is pretty impressive.

Now if Icould only use the term "pretty impressive" to describe the dungeons themselves...but that is a different story.

Originally posted by hikaru77

Originally posted by DiSpLiFF

I went on a 10 day cruise so I missed the "big" launch of GW2. Did it live up to the hype and break all the records, smash WoW, and all the other stuff people were saying it was going to do?

I tried searching for any big news on it and found nothing other than  decent pre-launch numbers. 

NO. is even behind swtor on sales,  and is B2P wich mean, for an overhyper game like gw2 should had sold more copies, i remember NCsoft talking about 3-5mill of copies at launch, is far behind that number. 

it is behind swtor in RETAIL sales IN THE UK.

The reporter didn't have numbers for digital sales and digital sales are becoming more and more common. GW2 may very well have sold more accounts than SWTOR, we simply don't know yet.

Originally posted by oubers

Originally posted by Badaboom
This whole thread is a broken record.

 This quote is pure win :) lolz

 

Well this thread is certainly breaking records with the amount of different haters ganging up on the game.

Originally posted by Kaelano1

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Originally posted by Kaelano1

It broke the record for...

 

"number of adult players complaining a player in their group doesn't play correctly, when said player is under 12 years of age"

 

...previously held by Hello Kitty Online.

 You've been having this go on?

I have to say this has been the most laid back I have ever seen group play. I have not run into a single dick blaming people for things or remarking on their gameplay.

Han't even seen a rage quit yet which considering I pug dungeons is pretty impressive.

Now if Icould only use the term "pretty impressive" to describe the dungeons themselves...but that is a different story.

It's in reference to a number of threads I've read both on and off these forums.

 

On another note, "Honey Boo Boo"  recently had "...over three million viewers for its August 29 episode, we're thinking the Thompson family might be pulling in more money if the show is picked up for another season."

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/roll-call-much-honey-boo-boo-her-family-191739553.html

 

I see alot in common here. One certain demographic likes one thing, another demographic has a modicum of taste. I'm relatively sure GW2 is the "Honey Boo Boo" of the gaming industry.

 

Stated as opinion, to clarify.

 

 Ah my god I love this thread lol.  The amount of ridiciulousness that you guys believe...I just don't know what to say.  Actually, all I'm going to say is this.

Honey Boo Boo:

  Metacritic critic score:  47/100

  Metacritic user score:  2.5/10

GW2:

  Metacritic critic score:  93/100

  Metacritic user score:  8.5/10

Originally posted by Creslin321

Originally posted by Kaelano1

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Originally posted by Kaelano1

It broke the record for...

 

"number of adult players complaining a player in their group doesn't play correctly, when said player is under 12 years of age"

 

...previously held by Hello Kitty Online.

 You've been having this go on?

I have to say this has been the most laid back I have ever seen group play. I have not run into a single dick blaming people for things or remarking on their gameplay.

Han't even seen a rage quit yet which considering I pug dungeons is pretty impressive.

Now if Icould only use the term "pretty impressive" to describe the dungeons themselves...but that is a different story.

It's in reference to a number of threads I've read both on and off these forums.

 

On another note, "Honey Boo Boo"  recently had "...over three million viewers for its August 29 episode, we're thinking the Thompson family might be pulling in more money if the show is picked up for another season."

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/roll-call-much-honey-boo-boo-her-family-191739553.html

 

I see alot in common here. One certain demographic likes one thing, another demographic has a modicum of taste. I'm relatively sure GW2 is the "Honey Boo Boo" of the gaming industry.

 

Stated as opinion, to clarify.

 

 Ah my god I love this thread lol.  The amount of ridiciulousness that you guys believe...I just don't know what to say.  Actually, all I'm going to say is this.

Honey Boo Boo:

  Metacritic critic score:  47/100

  Metacritic user score:  2.5/10

GW2:

  Metacritic critic score:  93/100

  Metacritic user score:  8.5/10

 

What's that metacritic score like if you include the tens of millions of mmo players who "aren't" playing gw2?

Originally posted by Creslin321

Originally posted by Kaelano1

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Originally posted by Kaelano1

It broke the record for...

 

"number of adult players complaining a player in their group doesn't play correctly, when said player is under 12 years of age"

 

...previously held by Hello Kitty Online.

 You've been having this go on?

I have to say this has been the most laid back I have ever seen group play. I have not run into a single dick blaming people for things or remarking on their gameplay.

Han't even seen a rage quit yet which considering I pug dungeons is pretty impressive.

Now if Icould only use the term "pretty impressive" to describe the dungeons themselves...but that is a different story.

It's in reference to a number of threads I've read both on and off these forums.

 

On another note, "Honey Boo Boo"  recently had "...over three million viewers for its August 29 episode, we're thinking the Thompson family might be pulling in more money if the show is picked up for another season."

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/roll-call-much-honey-boo-boo-her-family-191739553.html

 

I see alot in common here. One certain demographic likes one thing, another demographic has a modicum of taste. I'm relatively sure GW2 is the "Honey Boo Boo" of the gaming industry.

 

Stated as opinion, to clarify.

 

 Ah my god I love this thread lol.  The amount of ridiciulousness that you guys believe...I just don't know what to say.  Actually, all I'm going to say is this.

Honey Boo Boo:

  Metacritic critic score:  47/100

  Metacritic user score:  2.5/10

GW2:

  Metacritic critic score:  93/100

  Metacritic user score:  8.5/10

 

Don't mind him, he's still a little upset over the karma exploit bans lol.