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General Discussion  » Seems like the game has peaked on XFire - GW2 edition

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  lightblade

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Joined: 2/19/06
Posts: 220

9/05/12 10:01:55 AM#61
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

http://beta.xfire.com/games/lol

League of Legends:

3 days ago: 136K hours.

2 days ago: 128K hours

1 day ago: 118K hours

http://beta.xfire.com/games/cod4

Call of Duty 4

3 days ago: 82K hours.

2 days ago: 72K hours

1 day ago: 67K hours

http://beta.xfire.com/games/wow

WoW

 

3 days ago: 25K hours.

2 days ago: 22K hours

1 day ago: 20K hours

http://beta.xfire.com/games/swtor

 

3 days ago: 6K hours.

2 days ago: 5K hours

1 day ago: 4K hours

Weekend and August finished?

 

 

This
  Macecard

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Posts: 146

9/05/12 10:03:20 AM#62
Originally posted by Purutzil
Damn it, why didn't I make this thread earlier? I was always wanting to post this thread up for a new game just so I got credit for it, because you can pretty much bet that a game will 'peak' no matter what game it is. :) 

Pretty much bet? Im gonna go with logic on this one and say its a certainy that a game or anything you a population graph will peak...

If you continue to make sweeping statements like you know what everyone everywhere thinks about a certain topic then I am going to shout at you.
It easy to type 'I think this is the worst game ever'
Rather than the 'This is the worst game ever'

  dynamicipftw

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Joined: 8/26/12
Posts: 216

 
OP  9/05/12 10:05:57 AM#63
Originally posted by Purutzil
Damn it, why didn't I make this thread earlier? I was always wanting to post this thread up for a new game just so I got credit for it, because you can pretty much bet that a game will 'peak' no matter what game it is. :) 

Didn't WoW peak 4 years after its release?

  demonic87

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Posts: 439

9/05/12 10:08:16 AM#64
People still use x-fire?
  Gaia_Hunter

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Posts: 2796

9/05/12 10:13:48 AM#65
Originally posted by coretex666

The period in question is not long enough to base a trend on it.

However, it will be proven wrong only when / if there are higher results again, will it not.

Whether or not this happens is not my concern.

No.

The OP doesn't limit itself to saying it peeked.

It also says "it will be interesting to say if this trend continues" and the trend in question is a downtrend.

And some have also interpreted, based on the posts, that what this means is GW2 is dying and players are leaving by droves.

Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, King of Tokyo

  tawess

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Posts: 2350

9/05/12 10:20:32 AM#66
Originally posted by dynamicipftw
Originally posted by tawess

X-Fire... serious stuff...

 

That being said i see Gw numbers ping back and forth over the comming months as people come and go from MoP and the next batch of people can afford to buy the game.

Wait was it not serious when people were making this thread? http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/363225/4-x-as-many-Xfire-users-playing-GW2-than-WOW.html

Did it suddenly become less serious now?

I am pretty sure i did not post in that thread... So why you are qouting me i have not the slightest.

 

But yes i was being sarcastic. X-fire are good for broad general trends but it is very fickle for short time.

  smh_alot

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Posts: 990

9/05/12 10:23:44 AM#67
Interesting thread, but it's far too early to draw any conclusions.

Next to that, you need to a couple of other things in mind:

- weekend hrs will be higher than weekday hrs, simply bc Xfire measures players during the day and number of hrs, and ppl play more on average in a weekend day

- if you want to compare, better do it with the same day in different weeks, like a sunday with a sunday, a wednesday with a wednesday etc.

Another thing, which isn't Xfire related but regarding other tracking tools: the peak concurrent users is often higher during weekdays than weekends, bc more people will play around the same time at a weekday evening than other times. However, this only applies when a regional player base is tracked, not a global one.

As for what we can see so far regarding GW2:

- the number of hrs for this week's tuesday (73.1k) is lower than that of last week's tuesday (81.1k), but the number of players is higher (13k vs 14.2k) in Xfire

- the number of players now is about 150% of the number when they said they had over a million pre-sales

  jpnole

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Joined: 2/13/10
Posts: 1685

9/05/12 10:26:17 AM#68
What do you expect to happen when you track a game's hours played from Sun - Tues? Try it again from Thur - Sat and you will get increases in all games. Think before you post.
  Muppetier

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Posts: 281

9/05/12 10:26:36 AM#69
Originally posted by demonic87
People still use x-fire?

 

The half a milion hours logged every day by xfire people would suggest there are still one or two of them yes.

 

At last a good old thread....Gratz to OP...Keep the tradions alive.

 

  Volkon

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Posts: 3813

Facts do not require fiction for balance.

9/05/12 10:28:13 AM#70
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by coretex666

The period in question is not long enough to base a trend on it.

However, it will be proven wrong only when / if there are higher results again, will it not.

Whether or not this happens is not my concern.

No.

The OP doesn't limit itself to saying it peeked.

It also says "it will be interesting to say if this trend continues" and the trend in question is a downtrend.

And some have also interpreted, based on the posts, that what this means is GW2 is dying and players are leaving by droves.

However you can't call it a down trend when all games are showing the same population changes for the same exact days. It's simply a bump as a result of outside factors, in this case the holiday weekend in the U.S. and school starting for a huge number of players at the same time. To claim it's a trend for any one game you'd have to show it being relatively specific to that one game over a longer period of time. Say for example the next four weekends show a 20% drop in players from the one before them. That's a trend forming. But if there's a dip on one weekend and not the others you need to look at outside factors that may have affected that one weekend.

Oderint, dum metuant.

  Creslin321

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9/05/12 10:30:29 AM#71
OMG!  The holiday weekend ended, school started, and the XFire numbers are down!  Stop the presses :)!

Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  Gaia_Hunter

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Posts: 2796

9/05/12 10:33:20 AM#72
Originally posted by smh_alot
Interesting thread, but it's far too early to draw any conclusions.

 

Next to that, you need to a couple of other things in mind:

 

- weekend hrs will be higher than weekday hrs, simply bc Xfire measures players during the day and number of hrs, and ppl play more on average in a weekend day

 

- if you want to compare, better do it with the same day in different weeks, like a sunday with a sunday, a wednesday with a wednesday etc.

 

 

Another thing, which isn't Xfire related but regarding other tracking tools: the peak concurrent users is often higher during weekdays than weekends, bc more people will play around the same time at a weekday evening than other times. However, this only applies when a regional player base is tracked, not a global one.

 

 

As for what we can see so far regarding GW2:

 

- the number of hrs for this week's tuesday (73.1k) is lower than that of last week's tuesday (81.1k), but the number of players is higher (13k vs 14.2k) in Xfire

 

- the number of players now is about 150% of the number when they said they had over a million pre-sales

 

Just to add that last tuesday was a) game launch for non pre-orders and pre-purchases and b) it was an august tuesday aka as  holiday month in the northen hemisphere.

Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, King of Tokyo

  sr7olsniper

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Posts: 221

9/05/12 10:36:37 AM#73
Originally posted by dynamicipftw
Originally posted by tawess

X-Fire... serious stuff...

 

That being said i see Gw numbers ping back and forth over the comming months as people come and go from MoP and the next batch of people can afford to buy the game.

Wait was it not serious when people were making this thread? http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/363225/4-x-as-many-Xfire-users-playing-GW2-than-WOW.html

Did it suddenly become less serious now?

Yeah the logic is really bogus with the GW2 crowd. Basically "all hail X-fire" when it benefits them, but when it is used against them "X-fire is not accurate" . Gotta love the double standards 

At least with a sub game they know that people won't tolerate bullshit and leave. With anet we have no recourse but to buy our own lube so our assholes don't get too stretched out from getting bent over a table at Anets will. - Hrimnir

  Creslin321

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9/05/12 10:44:54 AM#74
Originally posted by sr7olsniper
Originally posted by dynamicipftw
Originally posted by tawess

X-Fire... serious stuff...

 

That being said i see Gw numbers ping back and forth over the comming months as people come and go from MoP and the next batch of people can afford to buy the game.

Wait was it not serious when people were making this thread? http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/363225/4-x-as-many-Xfire-users-playing-GW2-than-WOW.html

Did it suddenly become less serious now?

Yeah the logic is really bogus with the GW2 crowd. Basically "all hail X-fire" when it benefits them, but when it is used against them "X-fire is not accurate" . Gotta love the double standards 

 LOL really?

Do you really think that people don't play games more on weekends than weekdays?

That said, I fully expect GW2 hours to drop off a bit from the initial weekend even next weekend.  Folks are basically getting out of their "MUST PLAY" phase.

Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  Wickedjelly

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9/05/12 10:49:34 AM#75
Originally posted by sr7olsniper

Yeah the logic is really bogus with the GW2 crowd. Basically "all hail X-fire" when it benefits them, but when it is used against them "X-fire is not accurate" . Gotta love the double standards 

 Not really

I find it pretty stupid and useless in both cases

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Thornrage

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9/05/12 10:51:57 AM#76

Been gaming online for 12 years and in MMOs for 9. In all that time, I used xfire for about 2 months. My online friends which number in the hundreds do not use xfire. I take that back, A few did and might still do. The guild I am currently in which I joined with Age of Conan and now play GW2 in does not use xfire. 

I do not use xfire as a gauge for a game. I will now return to the shadows and let you continue.

"I don't give a sh*t what other people say. I play what I like and I'll pay to do it too!" - SerialMMOist

  Creslin321

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9/05/12 10:56:20 AM#77
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by sr7olsniper

Yeah the logic is really bogus with the GW2 crowd. Basically "all hail X-fire" when it benefits them, but when it is used against them "X-fire is not accurate" . Gotta love the double standards 

 Not really

I find it pretty stupid and useless in both cases

 It's not perfect, but I think it has some merit...you just have to take it for what it is.  A pretty badly sampled portion of the gaming population.  It's basically better than just randomly guessing about things, but you can't really draw any conclusions from just a bit of data in it because of its imperfections.

Still, I think that XFire does tend to reflect LARGE gaming trends, it's just not very useful for minor trends because of its issues.

Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  Wickedjelly

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9/05/12 11:10:37 AM#78
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Originally posted by sr7olsniper

Yeah the logic is really bogus with the GW2 crowd. Basically "all hail X-fire" when it benefits them, but when it is used against them "X-fire is not accurate" . Gotta love the double standards 

 Not really

I find it pretty stupid and useless in both cases

 It's not perfect, but I think it has some merit...you just have to take it for what it is.  A pretty badly sampled portion of the gaming population.  It's basically better than just randomly guessing about things, but you can't really draw any conclusions from just a bit of data in it because of its imperfections.

Still, I think that XFire does tend to reflect LARGE gaming trends, it's just not very useful for minor trends because of its issues.

 To show a trend over a long period of time...yeah I agree. In the instance he linked to and this topic?  Not really worth anything except amusing me while I'm stuck at work.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  Manifold

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Posts: 29

9/05/12 11:12:54 AM#79
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

http://beta.xfire.com/games/lol

League of Legends:

3 days ago: 136K hours.

2 days ago: 128K hours

1 day ago: 118K hours

http://beta.xfire.com/games/cod4

Call of Duty 4

3 days ago: 82K hours.

2 days ago: 72K hours

1 day ago: 67K hours

http://beta.xfire.com/games/wow

WoW

 

3 days ago: 25K hours.

2 days ago: 22K hours

1 day ago: 20K hours

http://beta.xfire.com/games/swtor

 

3 days ago: 6K hours.

2 days ago: 5K hours

1 day ago: 4K hours

Weekend and August finished?

 

Yea this thread is made of fail. Its the end of Labor Day weekend. 3 day weekend in the US we all gots to go back to work now :(

WildStar is like if Ratchet and Clank had a baby with Beyond Good & Evil and that baby was raised by World of Warcraft and Spore and babysat on the weekends by the aliens from Space Jam. It's an ugly bastard worth a few laughs but not much else.

  Jackdog

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9/05/12 11:25:18 AM#80
Originally posted by Creslin321
OMG!  The holiday weekend ended, school started, and the XFire numbers are down!  Stop the presses :)!

the game is doomed........yes doomed I say LOL

 

 

 

I miss DAoC

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